Magnus

November 11th, 2010 at 6:33 PM ^

Personally, I thought Hollowell was overrated from the beginning.  I suspected he'd be a 3-star back when they gave out the original rankings.  5'8" corners have certain limitations and, like Boubacar Cissoko, I don't see Hollowell as a big playmaker (one-handed catch in one-on-ones aside).

Not to take anything away from Hollowell, but I've made one-handed catches in competitive situations, too.  I think that one-handed catch has given Hollowell more traction amongst Michigan fans than it probably should.

Anyway, a 3-star prospect sounds about right.  I like Dallas Crawford a little more, and I'm a big fan of the Countess offer.

jg2112

November 11th, 2010 at 7:33 PM ^

Yeah, I'm weary of short cornerbacks as well. After all, I live in Minnesota so I watch Vikings games every weekend.

And geez, that midget Antoine Winfield really, really is no good, AND he's only 5'9" (and I've met him before - good luck on that 5'9" business).

jg2112

November 11th, 2010 at 8:49 PM ^

Right.

Just like the other guy cherry-picked a recent flame-out recruit.

With a sample size of 1 we can play the game all day long. I'd prefer we let the guy show up, redshirt if possible, and then find out in his 3rd year whether he can contribute. Color me patient.

mejunglechop

November 11th, 2010 at 10:34 PM ^

Your bad argument means there's no reason to think you're right. 

Height is already taken into account by the services. You think height is an under appreciated asset in a corner. The burden is on you to show this. Expecting us to just assume that's the case because you say so is asinine.

mejunglechop

November 11th, 2010 at 11:34 PM ^

Bravo for doing this, research is hard and time consuming. But while I applaud you for doing this and think it's interesting, it's far from dispositive on the question of whether the services undervalue height in corners. There are two problems in that regard: one, it shows correlations of success in the NFL rather than college and two, it doesn't speak to the services' evaluations.

Magnus

November 11th, 2010 at 11:36 PM ^

I think someone got confused somewhere.  Maybe it was me.  Maybe not.

I'm not arguing whether the services undervalue height in corners or not.  I really don't care whether they do or not.  I think the recruiting services are a fairly accurate guideline and nothing more.  I'm not a part of the 3-star mafia or anything.

The only point I've tried to make in this thread is that a) I'm not a huge fan of Delonte Hollowell's skill and b) I'm not a huge fan of short cornerbacks in general.

Whether Rivals/Scout/ESPN value height or not, I really don't care.

chitownblue2

November 11th, 2010 at 7:06 PM ^

Hollowell's ranking among CB's didn't change at all - which suggests their opinion of him didn't change much either.

Evil Monkey

November 11th, 2010 at 8:54 PM ^

People focus to much on the "stars" system. He is still the same player regardless of his rating. Especially if people have proof he is playing well, then his rating doesn't really matter. He is still a good cornerback who I believe will help are team.

WalterMitty

November 11th, 2010 at 10:12 PM ^

Cissoko seems to lower our hope for Hollowell, and that may not be fair? Yes, he was short, but that never seemed to be Boubacar's problem as much as he could not ever cover anyone unless he was holding onto them. I'm pretty sure he could have been 6'2" and been still pretty hapless out there.

ken725

November 12th, 2010 at 5:46 AM ^

For no other reason than just seeing who was the tallest and shortest prospects for the class of 2011, I decided to poke around on the internet.  All the chatter above made me curious so, I used the recruit search and database on rivals. (setting it to search anyone taller than 5'5"). 

The tallest player who is rated by rivals is Keelin Smith @ 6'3" 185lbs, committed to FSU.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/player-Keelin-Smit…

 

The shortest player who is rated by rivals is Kishon Wilcher @ 5'6" 154lbs, committed to Toledo.  Interestingly he is from Cass Tech and I believe he is the son of the head coach.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/player-Kishon-Wilc…

 

These are listed heights for rivals so who know how accurate they are.  This search only included CBs and not athletes that might project to CB in college.

Brewcityitalian

November 12th, 2010 at 2:16 PM ^

I remember watching the army all american game and watching Cissoko get torched on a couple bombs and I said to myself, This i don't think is gonna work out too good for Michigan

 

Guess I was right