Has left the team
Has left the team
Actually, at my work, when someone leaves the company, they send out an email with the person's name as the subject. So, this was perfect.
Thread title could have been better, but thanks for the (bad) news all the same.
Carvin my dreams up like a thanksgiving turkey.
God, the idiots out there... the title wasn't ideal, but thanks for the info OP. Sorry about whatever losers negged you
Thanks man. I really just wanted to post it before someone else did because then you have to start up another thread asking for it to be removed if someone else posts at the same time, ya know. If people wanna negg, it's ok.
If that was truly your reasoning, why didn't you edit the thread title after you got it onto the board?
What should I title my threads?
Please make your thread titles as informative as possible: "Justin Feagin" is bad. "Justin Feagin leaving the team?" is good.
This is nearly the exact example provided. This isn't an online newspaper. The OP doesn't get bonus points for more people opening the thread. There is no reason to have a teaser headline. It would be much easier to find the thread in the future with an appropriate headline. Points mean absolutely nothing and don't even work, so does it really matter if it gets negged or not?
What the hell.
unless he really is not seeing PT down the road, but man the depth chart seems to be favorable.
Bummer. He was one of my favorite players on the team. Something about that picture of him with the State title game MVP trophy but looking so crushed since his team lost made me want this guy to succeed so badly. Best of luck to him wherever he goes.
Frees up a scholly I guess. I wish I had a better understanding how APR works, but I usually fall asleep reading about it.
I am beginning to think that the entire point of the APR is that we aren't supposed to be able to understand it. We are just supposed to read stories about it and know how much the NCAA "cares about student-athletes."
This is probably an additional factor in Woolfolk's move to safety and lends credence to the unverified veracity of Hoke claiming the move happened before the injury to Kovacs.
Since Countess and Avery are playing so well does this mean we'll be seeing both Woolfolk AND JT Floyd at FS now???
Doubt it. There is a need for 3 good CBs, but we already have 3 good Safetys
Doesn't it feel weird saying we have good safeties? Also we both now need to sacrifice something to AMSHG to be safe.
Sadly, I think Carvin just got sacrificed to AMSHG.
the way JT Floyd plays CB, he is already lining up deeper than our safeties do.....
Sorry to hear, but I guess this is the attrition that is building the next 2 stellar classes
sweet.... (-_-)... the problem is... you need competition amongst upper classman too... If our safeties were to go down, itd be nice having a seasoned, experienced Carvin Johnson instead of a Freshman....(but Jarrod Wilson is sweet)
Well we do also have Marvin and. Furman developing behind Kovacs/Gordon, but I agree with your point nonetheless
Well we do also have Marvin and. Furman developing behind Kovacs/Gordon, but I agree with your point nonetheless
and yet I'm not panicking. I wonder if the Woolfolk move caused this or was because of this
Was really looking forward to seeing him grow. Good luck kid
I hate attrition, but I will root for Carvin wherever he plays next.
Can this really be what's best for the team? Why does Michigan have sooooo much attrition, year in and year out.
Please stop, I would like fully developed upperclassman across 90% of the positions some day.
Um coaching transitions do cause that. Also, attrition happens everywhere, every year.
the 2 coaching changes being only 3 years apart. I don't want to say it's normal, but it's kind of expected, especially after coach Hoke told us months ago how big the next recruiting class would be. Besides, we had 20 or so DBs when the season began (if you include incoming freshmen) all pretty much neck-and-neck vying to play 4+ spots and then keep those spots when next years big class came in.
In the past 5 years we've had three head coaches and four different defensive coordinators.
pretty surprised by this.
Why now? I mean seriously.
Seems really out of left field. Someone update the Never Forget poster!
Very cool of us to continue shoring up the defensive side of the ball at Pitt, tho.
no wait, the ACC will be happy about this.
...to Mr. Johson. A bit concerned about what this does to our depth chart, but not too concerned about what it does to the team we put on the field, or look to be putting on the field over the next 2 to 3 years.
I've got to ask those who know better, though...why does someone request a transfer in the middle of the season? Or did he leave for another reason?
at the beginning of the year. From far away place + lack of redshirt + coaching change + lack of playing time = high likelyhood of transfer. I really hope we hold onto Marvin as I think he will be a stud at Strong Safety his senior year and we'll need someone to step in for Kovacs.
I still don't understand why an athlete would leave in the middle of the season though. You never know what will happen and at the end of the semester once you've passed your classes you can make an informed decision about whether or not to transfer.
Pittsburgh, Carvin. No, I have no information. I only naturally assume that's where all our defensive backs end up.
He could have any reason for leaving. Wish him well. But so many from different teams I hear of are about playing time and I have no sympathy for that. There seems to be a overblown sense of entitlement in many that they should play right away or aren't getting their dues. Work hard and wait your turn. /rant over
Not assuming this about CJ. Good luck buddy.
Why man... why. You even played regularly! Good luck wherever you go (cough.. Pitt).
Our safety depth is wearing thin... if Kovacs can return by Illinois we're good, but otherwise I'm not feeling too good about putting a porcelain doll as starting SS
Happy trails to Carvin Johnson, best of luck to him wherever he goes. Definitely a bummer.
Still, good luck, Carvin, wherever you end up. Sad Wolverine here.
We're gonna need a bigger freakin flag.....
Let's have informative titles. Also, bummer.
Heh, I already had a pretty good guess as to what the post would say before I clicked on it. That is a sad commentary on the state of Michigan's secondary for the past few years.
I thought he had good potential even though he's clearly behind Kovacs and T Gordon at this point. I doubt that Woolfolk has anything to do with this, as Woolfolk is a senior and Johnson a sophomore. Gordon, maybe.
Couldnt wait til the end of the year? Whatever, I wish him well, but we will be fine without him.
Good luck to Carvin wherever he goes.
Darn. I was so excited that we had a chance to have starting safeties named Carvin and Marvin.
I wonder if the coaches knew this was coming and it influenced their decision to move Jeremy Clark into the Class of 2012.
In any event - really sad to see him go. Best of luck to the kid.
But not quite. The coaches knew that Greg Brown was leaving the team and that was why Clark got his offer.
Crap. This simply cannot be good. I am getting used to have secondary depth again. I remember 2008/2009 when there were a few of these posts, a couple of injuries and, the next thing I knew, 225+ RBs from Indiana were outrunning the freshmen we were throwing out there to play DB because we had no one else. (Not to mention Iowa TEs who were so open that the term "open" didn't describe how wide freaking open they were.)
How are Demar Dorsey's grades in junior college? (Just kidding. Unless they are really good. In which case someone needs to convince Brandon that he would totally be good for the brand and would look great in an alternate non-throwback throwback jersey.)
Still, best wishes to Carvin. I feel bad that Michigan didn't work out for him. I hope he finds the right place for him.
Anyone else see this thread title quickly and thought it was about Calvin AKA MEGATRON Johnson? Maybe it was just me.
I really hate this stuff. He was a contributer. What more does he expect? Everything handed to him on a Silver platter? I don't get it. Maybe the truth will come out soon. Maybe he just didn't have the passion anymore.
I hope he's leaving for good reasons.
Playing time. I could see this coming since Thomas Gordon started the opener.
to get any playing time and be practicing with the team as a sophomore. This is Michigan.
do you have a source or are you speculating?
Weird timing. Why not suck it up 2 more months and enjoy a sunny bowl game?
I don't get this at all. I can understand transferring after the season if you don't think you are going to play but 1/3 of the way left with a bowl game / vacation coming up in January
Very weird. Maybe he feels he's putting all this work in for no reward, (playing time) otherwise I don't understand.
It COULD be a little clearer. Is Carvin injured? starting? Joining a cult? Opening a bait shop in rural Nova Scotia?
It isn't a big deal but adding "leaving team" or "has left team" to the end of the title isn't exactly a huge inconvenience for the OP and tells everyone the pertinent info without even having to open it.
Well this certainly came out of nowhere, Shaq Thompson Come on Down...
Can we just stop recruiting Louisana? Has it ever worked out for Michigan?
Anthony Thomas says hello.
* Leroy Hoard
* Anthony Thomas
At least a couple of times, anyway ...
And Drew Dileo is very hurt. :-(
thanks for this. was not sure who else historically was from Lousiana...I just remembered this and DeQuinta Jones and how well that worked out...and I know historically is a very odd place to recruit.
LaTerryal Savoy, WR, Mamou, LA. Not a stud, but he was a 4-year contributor from 2006-2009.
Adam Kraus, OL, New Orleans, LA. Solid O-line member (All Big Ten?).
I see nothing wrong with taking LA players. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.
But great call on Kraus. He was good.
How could we forget about Fred Jackson? He's the ultimate Wolverine Cajun. He's the sole reason why he have a small LA pipeline:
A native of Baton Rouge, La., Jackson was an all-conference quarterback at Jackson State (Miss.) after leading the conference in passing during his senior season. He earned his bachelor of science degree from Jackson State in 1972 and added his master of arts degree from Michigan in 1975.
Oh, relax. Nine times out of ten, players leave for the same reason: the depth-chart. Probably Carvin read the tea leaves and determined that he wasn't going to see much PT. So this is not a big deal, except to him.
...and our APR
but these kids are so short sighted. They're so quick to quit at any adversity.
Those who stay will be champions.
The apr thing is silly too. Michigan is not in trouble there.
Good luck to Carvin. This hurts the depth chart but not much else. I don't understand why he would want to leave the team because 1) you can earn a degree from Michigan and 2) play for an improving team that can only get better. Not many 2/3 stars were recruited before RichRod, so he should have felt like this was meant to be. Of course the DB haul in the 2011 and 2012 class possibly contributed to his departure as well but why not fight for a good spot on the depth chart?
He hated losing soooo much!
Yuri Wright? Shaq Thompson? Stefon Diggs? I wish Carvin the best but this opens up some exciting scenarios in recruiting.
I really hope it works out for him but he is making a poor choice.
There are many examples of someone who transfers and does well and ends up in the NFL: Cam Newton, Randy Moss, Ryan Mallet, Troy Aikman, Glenn Davis...but they are mostly really good QBs or other skill players with clear cut talent. ? Any DBs ever make this type of jump?
With the way teams play multiple WR sets, there are not just 4 DB slots but actually 6 or 7 spots: nickel, dime and first sub.
Did he think he wasn't in the top 6 DBs? WIth Kovacs going down and uncertain when he'd be back, he should expect to see some playing time.
Finally, this is really where coaching and advisors can only do so much. I hope that most of the team has a realistic understanding of the likelihood of playing pro ball. A Michigan degree with networking with Michigan alumni is worth a lot.
I'm not sure about Troy Aikman or Glenn Davis but the other ones on your list were either starters or going to be starters and transferred for reasons other than playing time. I think the list is much shorter of players who couldn't crack the starting lineup tranferring somewhere and then making it big.
while the team goes on playing? Everybody he encounters on campus is going to ask him the same thing—"WTF, dude? You only had two more months?" Seems to me that would be far worse than sticking it out.
I have the feeling this is primarily emotional because of his perception of his playing time. He's just an injury or two away from starting, for chrissakes.
Probably isn't. He was playing as a sophomore on a 7-1 team for coaches that don't seem to be all about "their guys" (see: Brian Kelly.) He's 19? 20? Probably just wasn't happy. People probably tried to tell him to grind out the semester, and after two months it just wasn't working for him, so why stick around?
Sophomore year is tough for a lot of people. I left school near the end of my fall semester, took the spring off, and recharged while I considered life. When I got home, I found that about 10% of my senior class in high school had done the same thing. I ended up going back to where I started, and had a great final three years. I know other people transferred from their schools. It's life, and it isn't always about football.
That said, even from a football consideration, it still isn't crazy to leave once you know you want to leave. Gives him a couple of months to find a place that fits him better, so he can enroll for the spring semester there, and get a headstart on meeting his future teammates.
Whatever the rationale, all the best to him.
Though I am guessing he'll transfer down south near home somewhere. Tulane? Louisiana Monroe or Lafayette? I really liked him as a player, sad to see him go. Hopefully he can make a difference on another team.
Can we get an updated “Never Forget” secondary banner.