Carr allegedly advised 2008 commit to flip to Iowa

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Lloyd Carr allegedly advised 2008 Michigan QB commit John Wienke to flip to Iowa during the Rich Rodriguez transition because it would better fit his style of play as a pro-style QB. And it clearly worked out as Wienke is now a punter at Iowa. I wonder if Carr will finally address the story from Three and Out about his willingness to sign off on any transfers.  Doubt it.

http://thegazette.com/2012/08/22/former-michigan-coach-guided-qb-to-iowa/

Scott Dochterman @ScottDochterman

Former Michigan coach guided QB to Iowa | TheGazette http://thegazette.com/2012/08/22/former-michigan-coach-guided-qb-to-iowa/ 

claire

August 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 AM ^

I remember when Carr retired and the search was hot and heavy and I heard the name 'Hoke'. I rolled my eyes. So I lack any credibility to render an opinion at this or any other time when it comes to this topic.

Thank You

uminks

August 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 AM ^

The mid and late 90s were some of the best defenses. I think the pressure of winning put Carr under stress later in his coaching career but overall he was a great HC.

I know Carr did not want Miles to get the HC job! This may be the reason he jumped at RR. He may have taken the firing of his staff too personally. The new HC gets to pick his staff. Unfortunately, RR did not manage to fit his assistant coaches on defense. I was surprised Casteel did not follow him to Michigan.

RR tried but I think he went too quick to the spread without spread offensive players. Then the defense fell apart on him due to poor coaching IMO! Hoke and his OC were smart enough to incorporate enough of the spread to have a successful offense. Plus Greg was a great pickup and was a much better coach than anyone RR could get.

I was an RR supporter and wanted to give him 4 years to turn the football program around, but during the '09 and '10 season, seeing how the defense never jelled, finally convinced me that RR was not the complete HC for Michigan.

I'm glad we have coach Hoke! Given the tough schedule and a slight lack of depth in some areas, I will not get too upset if we lose 4 or 5 games this season. Though, I'm predicting we'll go 9-3 and win the B1G!

ChicagoB1GRed

August 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 AM ^

it took about 3 years on Nebraska fan boards for the wounds to heal and everybody moved on rehashing Bill Callahan. So you're only looking at about 2013 for this sort of discussion to end.

ChicagoB1GRed

August 23rd, 2012 at 3:31 PM ^

and many bought into the "our offense is stale and old fashioned and we need to make major changes" meme. And as things unraveled on the field and cherished win records were snapped, Big Red fans bickered and split into factions.

Main reason I started visiting your board originally was watching in horrified fascination as the same situation repeated here. It was so similar on so many levels it was downright creepy and like living the whole thing again, but I couldn't avert my eyes.

Judging from last season, you guys won't have long to put it behind you.