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Carlos Brown's NFL prospects

Once again on Saturday, we saw Carlos Brown's display of speed, acceleration, and vision. He had the third-longest run in Michigan history (90 yards) and had 187 yards rushing altogether. He's had good games against several middling opponents (Illinois, Eastern Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern) and Michigan fans have been buzzing about him for a few years.

However, Brown has been consistently hurt throughout his 3+ years on campus. He sat behind Mike Hart for two years and finally seems to be healthy. We also saw my biggest frustration with Brown rear its ugly head on Saturday - he doesn't consistently break tackles, as evidenced by the soft breeze that felled him on his 30-yard run in the first quarter.

So what can we expect from Brown after this year? Does he get drafted late? If he goes undrafted, will anyone sign him as a UFA? Can a guy like him stick around for any length of time in the NFL? Is he perhaps an ideal third down back, a guy who can catch the ball out of the backfield, block adequately, or take a draw play 80 yards?

In my opinion, he doesn't run tough enough to be an every down back. But I can see him sticking around for a few years to return kicks, play on third downs, etc. I think he has more potential as an NFL player than Mike Hart*.

*No, this isn't revisionist history. I said from the beginning that Hart wouldn't make it in the NFL. So far that's held to be true.

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September 21st, 2009 at 8:22 AM | One thing (Score:1)
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He has virtually next to no miles on him entering the NFL.

I cant see him drafted unless he stays the #1 back all season long, but I think there are too many carries to split up for somebody not really on the NFL radar to suddenly pop up.

But, I think he has a chance to stick on a team if he can sign on with a camp and stay healthy through said camp. The latter a big If, of course.

Like I said at the top, he has no miles on him and that might help him stick around a la Fast Willie Parker for the Steelers.

But I think he's a longshot at this point.

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September 21st, 2009 at 8:26 AM | RR's system empties out the (Score:1)
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RR's system empties out the box though...that's one thing that will count against him for some teams. I suppose it's possible IF he starts most of the season and continues racking up yards that some GM will take a chance on him on day 2 to see if they can get a Chris Johnson-lite type back.

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September 21st, 2009 at 8:27 AM | if he.... (Score:1)
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runs a 4.3 or 4.4 forty at the combine he'll get drafted in 3rd or 4th round. the nfl doesn't ignore speed backs, and with more and more teams going to 2 backs systems he'll have a good chance. like you said the only knocks on him are his health and going down to easy. what is really helping him right now is that he is splitting out wide here and there and proving that he can catch the ball.

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September 21st, 2009 at 4:42 PM | Both health and going down to (Score:1)
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Both health and going down to easy are pretty good reasons for an NFL team to steer clear regardless of his 40 time. He's not even a clear starter in college so there is no way anyone takes him that high. He'll most likely not be drafted.

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September 21st, 2009 at 8:38 AM | I'd be surprised if he had a decent NFL career. (Score:1)
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As goblue4evr said, the NFL doesn't ignore speed, so I see him getting drafted, but low, more like 6th round. But beyond the injury history, and as Magnus points out, the lack of tough running, I just don't see Brown as having the vision and cutting ability that he needs at the next level. To compare him to another M back, I see far more cutting ability and vision in Shaw than I see from Brown, IME.

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September 21st, 2009 at 8:44 AM | I wouldn't be suprised to see (Score:1)
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I wouldn't be suprised to see a team take a late round flyer on him and like Magnus said, maybe be used situationally during passing downs.

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September 21st, 2009 at 8:46 AM | In fairness to Hart (Score:1)
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injuries have held him back up to this point. Indy must see something in Hart to keep him on the practice squad after being hurt two consecutive years.

I believe Indy had injuries to their top two backs a year ago which would have made Hart the starter, but unfortunately he was injured as well.

As far as Brown goes I have no clue to be honest. Maybe someone will take him with a late pick or sign him as a free agent and he can become the next Willie Parker.

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September 21st, 2009 at 9:01 AM | undrafted free agent (Score:1)
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where his talents will be put to use on a practice squad or kick return teams.

Carlos is just not an NFL back.

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September 21st, 2009 at 9:18 AM | well most.. (Score:1)
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people didn't think that steve breaston would be an NFL wideout. but then he went to the combine, ran a 4.3, zona drafted him in the 6th round, and he has a 1000 yard season last year. all carlos needs is to be put in the right place, and have a team take a chance.

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September 21st, 2009 at 9:11 AM | If Carlos can break a few (Score:1)
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If Carlos can break a few tackles this year, that will help. A classic example was during the EMU game when he went around the end and the EMU guy sort of clipped his shoulder and he went down, no touchdown.

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September 21st, 2009 at 9:22 AM | I could see him being taken (Score:1)
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I could see him being taken in the late rounds.

 

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September 21st, 2009 at 9:48 AM | Could be a good 3rd down back, he is very good at . . . (Score:1)
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catching passes out of the backfield and has the speed that they are looking for.

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September 21st, 2009 at 10:01 AM | Chris Howard (Score:1)
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If a back like Chris Howard is given a shot in the NFL draft, then a guy like Brown will probably get taken as well; my guess would be that his season determines if he is anywhere from the late 4th round to the 6th round.

The dude could easily run for 800+ yards this year; and even if he doesnt he will get drafted if he can keep his YPC even close to what they are now, which is 8.8 YPC.

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September 21st, 2009 at 10:04 AM | I have a feeling he'll go (Score:1)
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I have a feeling he'll go undrafted but definitely sign with a team after the draft. From there it's difficult to predict. I think he could be a solid 3rd down back because he can catch the ball very well.. but I agree with you Magnus, I don't think he runs hard enough and can't be a full time back.

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September 21st, 2009 at 10:47 AM | I could actually see Brown's (Score:1)
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I could actually see Brown's career play out a bit like Justin Fargas's. Both struggled with injuries early on in their careers but had decent-to-good senior seasons and wound up being drafted in the late rounds. True, Fargas was a better overall back than Brown, but Brown certainly has the elite speed that would serve him well in a limited role in the NFL.

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September 21st, 2009 at 11:05 AM | He has some NFL skills, but I (Score:1)
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He has some NFL skills, but I am not sure about his body and also he needs to break a few more tackles first.

Right now, Brandon Minor is better suited for the NFL, IMO...even with his lack of top end speed he is much more of a slasher, physical and a patient runner who finds the hole. Brandon is a one-cut and go downhill type who would do well in an offense like the old Denver offense, or Atlanta's etc.

That could change, with Carlos skills and speed, however I see him as more of a 3rd down type back in the NFL who can catch the ball and move in space.

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