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So they smoked pot? Or they went to a party or concert and other people were smoking pot?
No one gets fired or asked to resign for attending an event where weed is smoked. Any person that ever went to a concert would be elligible to be fired. And hell, even if Pelini smoked weed, that's not something you get fired for without a bunch of other stuff preceeding it.
when you're.....living in a van down by the river!!
Totally awesome, that was a great skit.
Um....different "alleged" issue is being rumored to have occured. One that he previously "allegedly" had fallen prey to at Nebraska.
Feeding mogwai after midnight? Because you're really not supposed to do that.
What's that? I don't see why discretion is all that necessary here.
Story's been updated. It's drugs not women (this time). Man Carl seems like he'd be a hell of a lot of fun to play for dont you think?
...CPS5J does not sound nearly as menacing as CJK5H (allegedly).
Well, because smoking 5 joints is wonderful. Killing 5 hookers, like Craig James may or may not have done, is terrible.
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Guess what. You've all posted in a thread in which a guy who has smoked pot has posted.
Fired, all of you.
I live in Washington.
Yeah its pretty awesome.
in Ann Arbor. Here's my $25. haha
Maybe he grew disillusioned with being a HC and noticed that the defense at Nebraska is a dumpster fire. I think Carl's headed back to Lincoln.
Weed's not a drug.
Eh, it is by the literal definition of the word. The question is should it be stigmatized and illegalized to the extent that we do when other drugs (tobacco and alcohol have far more harmful side effects) are perfectly legal.
Nip this in the bud.
Or the thread will go up in smoke.
It depends on your definition of the word drug. Usually, people drug to refer to narcotics (heroin, meth, oxycontin, etc) as opposed to things like alcohol and tobacco. People who drink or smoke cigarettes don't consider that "doing drugs." My point is that weed is in the latter category.
Ya I mean it's laymens terms vs. science .
Coffee is considered a drug if you go by the latter's definition.
Exactly. So for anyone who asserts that weed is a drug better call beer and coffee the same thing.
Companies usually only test and won't hire you for doing one of the three things you listed.
You know that has a lot to do with only one of them being illegal, right? No one cares if you use either of them lightly, but if I had the choice between hiring a heavy pot smoker or a heavy drinker, I'd pick the smoker every time. Much less likely to affect your work, and if think most employers would agree with that, they just can't test you for alcohol.
No that part escaped me. Failing a drug test due to marijuanna use and losing a job oppurtunity is enough for me to hold it on a different level than caffeine and alcohol and I'm not alone on that. If you want to lump it together with alcohol because you enjoy weed then whatever, it's still a tangible difference.
They definitely do care if you use marijuanna lightly. Companies pay to have potential employees hair tested for a reason. And I'm not sure what remote island this company is stuck on with two prospective employees with drug addictions, but yeah, no real company is going to hire either of those people if they can figure that circumstance out before hand.
Places are increasingly (think hospitals) testing for nicotene and not hiring based on that positive test, citing rising insurance premiums as a major factor -- although some laws are on the books against this in certain states citing 'smokers' rights'.
I guess the issue I take with this is let's say tomorrow Congress legalizes weed, your opinion changes?
Leaving aside the caffeine issue, because that was more of a semantical debate I was having with Wolvin about how encompassing the term drug can be, I think without that legislation, you should be able to differntiate between the effects of alcohol on a person vs. alcohol and tobacco.
I agree with goblue20111 that the big difference (not sure if it's tangible or if that's even a possible state for a difference) is legality. If we woke up tomorrow morning and weed was legal, would you still think it's worse than alcohol?
Most companies' marijuana tests allow for a fairly significant amount of marijuana in your blood, but different than a test they use to probation, for example. They're not looking the occasional user, they're looking for the total pothead, which I can understand.
That said, most employers are more concerned with alchohol than they are with marijuana. Outside of using it on the job (which would be an equally big problem with alcohol) there are few ways that marijuana can negatively affect your job performance. Someone showing up hungover, however, is a very common problem for employers. And with DUIs having harsher penalties, having an employee lose his ability to drive can be a deal breaker (like it is for me).
Outside of "is illegal" are there reasons you disagree?
there are few ways that marijuana can negatively affect your job performance.
This isn't really true. Studies have shown that marijuana can have effects on a person's cognition, in areas like memory and attention, for several days afterwards. It's not as blatantly obvious as drunkenness but the effects last longer. It can take a few weeks for the negative effects to completely disappear.
it's a tax issue. Most people cant grow enough tobacco to support a smokers habit, drinkers tend to be social even when you dont want them to be but anyone can grow 6 or more plants and smoke out all day. You can support you own habit without buying weed from a store and paying taxes. They could tax pipes or papers but come on how many weed smokers have smoked out of a coke can or a windex bottle
I don't get why people think that an inability to comercialize weed is the thing keeping it from becoming legal. Damn near everyone can make a hamburger or a sandwich, but somehow Subway and McDonalds are still around. People will pay for convience and quality.
You make an excellent point. In addition, people act like you throw some seeds in the ground and kush comes out. Growing quality marijuana is A LOT of work and isn't cheap. It's much easier to grow good vegetables/produce than good marijuana, and I don't see the produce section disappearing out of grocery stores. People aren't going to start making the capital investments and commit the time to growing good marijuana just because it is legal. They will walk their soon-to-be-happy asses to the store and buy it like Americans do everything else (I am including myself in that statement).
You might not get the top shelf stuff just by throwing seeds on the ground, but if you live in a part of the country with enough sunshine and long enough summers, it's not hard to grow decent pot.
One night after working at Pizza Bobs, the crew was sitting in the back alley, enjoying the joint being passed around. All of a sudden we hear some guys as well as see some flashlights looking around. We thought for sure it was cops and got scared. Well, we scared the 3 guys coming into the back alley as well as they thought they'd be alone too. After realizing no one in either group were cops they asked if anyone objected if the dug up that plant. We had no idea what they were talking about, then they showed us; between Mr Spots and the restaurant next door, I believe it was some short lived italian place, there was a 3-4 foot plant growing right there for the whole world to see. We all passed by it several times a day and never noticed it. It just looked like a weed growing in an alley.
But cocaine is, and it's a hell of a drug--Rick James
Maybe they should apply to a school in Colorado or Washington.
It was with Johnny Hopkins and Sloan Kettering... and they were blazing that shit up every day.
I am not gonna call him dad.
the reverberations will be felt throughout the coaching world. Maybe Nick Saban or Lane Kiffin will take the job.
Rumor is they offered me but I declined. They want the next best coach now, John Gruden
That's why he told their qb to spike on 4 down this year
...actually makes a lot of sense.
Think of all of the Doritos who have lost their lives to that terrible beast.
Booger sugar? Smiley snow? Party powder? The ferocious flour?
Per USA Today (HERE), Carl Pelini is not being given any opportunity to address the team in addition to everything else, but from the look of things, he did at least issue a statement apologizing for "poor judgment". The OC, Brian Wright, will be taking over supposedly.
Man..the Youngstown connection is once again making me proud of my hometown (area). Pellini is from Ytown and my best friend played for Rekstis at YSU. Rekstis is a Tressel guy. I know..Tressel guy/breaking rules/shocked.
"I can assure you that we have no information that suggests anyone other than these two individuals engaged in these activities," [FAU athletic director Pat] Chun said Wednesday afternoon.
I'm not sure how that comment would be relevant unless there were other athletic personnel present at the alleged social occasion. I'll leave it to the imagination but I can come up with some scenarios that would make the quick job action not so surprising.
Funny... This town has much more of a cocaine habit.
Given this and his W-L record, I would think it would make him damn near unhireable except for a much more lowly position.
I was gonna go to work but then I got high
I just got a new promotion but I got high
now I'm selling dope and I know why (why man?) yea heayy,
- cause I got high [repeat 3X]
(La da da da da da da da da)