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Carl Hagelin Signs NHL Deal With NYR
Good for him, will make his pro debut in the AHL this weekend.

I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.

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April 11th, 2011 at 1:06 PM | BORK! (Score:1)
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Du kommer att saknas. Tack för allt.

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April 11th, 2011 at 10:24 PM | Swedish (Score:1)
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just put that in google translater Talar du svenska flytande?

But sir, but sir, BUT NOTHING

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April 11th, 2011 at 1:07 PM | F the Rangers... He should (Score:1)
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F the Rangers... He should have come to Toronto.

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April 11th, 2011 at 2:33 PM | Not an option? (Score:1)
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Ever heard of the NHL draft?

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April 11th, 2011 at 4:00 PM | Well... very technically... (Score:1)
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Well... very technically... he could have gone somewhere else if he had refused to sign with the Rangers and then waited a few months.

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April 11th, 2011 at 4:17 PM | Signed, Yevgeni Nabokov (Score:1)
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Signed,

Yevgeni Nabokov

"I just hope Tressel doesn't fire me"

-Gordon Gee

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April 11th, 2011 at 5:32 PM | Different Situation (Score:1)
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Free agents from non-North-American professional leagues are the only signings that need to clear waivers.

 

From the CBA:
13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside
North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his
Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs)
only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the
Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or
Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim
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April 11th, 2011 at 1:09 PM | Love you, Carl (Score:1)
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Good luck buddy. Bork. Does anyone know if he will be commuting so he can graduate, or how does that work?

mrider, you spelled Detroit wrong.

Mike Martin told me he loves me. My life is quite possibly complete.

Join the bone marrow donor registry today: www.dkmsamericas.org (do it.)

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April 11th, 2011 at 1:22 PM | My guess is that he will (Score:1)
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My guess is that he will either arrange something with his profs since the semester is so close to being done, or he'll put it on hold and complete his degree with summer courses. He doesn't have much of a choice, the earlier he starts his pro career, the better.

I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.

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April 11th, 2011 at 1:13 PM | He's Swedish... He'll be a (Score:1)
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He's Swedish... He'll be a Red Wing soon.

 

"When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing."

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April 11th, 2011 at 1:26 PM | I guess now they're the... (Score:1)
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New Bork Rangers.

Sportscenter.com raves: Sgt. Wolverine, "Michigan's biggest fan"!

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April 11th, 2011 at 2:06 PM | I guess you could say he got (Score:1)
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I guess you could say he got a... "Swede" deal.

YEAAHHHHHHH!

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April 11th, 2011 at 1:41 PM | Is he eligible for the playoffs? (Score:1)
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I thought I remembered Abdelkader coming right out and being on the Wings Black Aces squad for the playoff run that year, and that draft picks were "on the roster" so to speak for eligible playoff players (of course he'd have to be put on the playoff roster itself for a round).... If Hagelin does stay with the AHL team, he'll be playing in the playoffs with them as well.

"So I come out of Ohio Stadium after we beat the Buckeyes, and right there on the hood of my friend's car, some one took a dump, in the shape of an 'O'. no shit. Oh, sorry, bad pun."

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April 11th, 2011 at 4:08 PM | Yes, he could, but it's not (Score:1)
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Yes, he could, but it's not going to happen.  He's a couple of years from breaking the Rangers lineup (baring some changes) and would be unlikely to see any meaningful playoff time with the Rangers this year.  Connecticut is a much better destination for him so that he can actually get meaningful playoff minutes.  Realistically, as much as I like Hagelin, I wouldn't expect him to compete for a spot in New York until 2012 camp.  Also, I believe (but am not 100% certain), that if he plays an NHL game this season it cuts a year off of his entry level contract, which is something New York is unlikely to want to happen.

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April 11th, 2011 at 5:12 PM | Playing in the AHL counts (Score:1)
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Playing in the AHL counts towards your entry level contract regardless of whether you play an NHL game or not. His contract was probably 3 years, but they will have the option to drop him after 2, which is standard with most contracts. If they don't re-sign him, which happens to most guys who sign NHL contracts, then he can shop for another contract or he can sign an AHL deal and hope he plays well enough to make the jump for someone.

I didn't see the terms of the contract disclosed, but if anyone is interested, based on his prospect status, he probably got somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.8-2.2 million for 3 years, which only matters if he plays in the NHL during the next 3 seasons. Even then, he only gets the full amount per year if he plays more than 10 games in a given season, otherwise he gets paid for each day he's with the big squad. Also, he would have gotten some kind of signing bonus, which for a 6th round pick would probably be around 100K, which gets split over 3 years. For the AHL, he will probably make about 55k per year. So next season, assuming he plays in the AHL he will make about 85K. Not bad, eh? However, that gets chopped up pretty good by taxes, agent fees, union dues, and pension dues. Still a great income though. 

I just posted that because I figured some people on here would be interested in how this stuff works. Seeing as how he will be older than most of the other AHL rookies, they will expect him to be able to contribute in the AHL immediately at a high level.

I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.

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April 11th, 2011 at 9:46 PM | Thanks for posting that.  I (Score:1)
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Thanks for posting that.  I couldn't remember if the clock started on that or not when the deal started in the AHL.  My apologies.

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April 11th, 2011 at 2:54 PM | He'll be with Chad Kolarik at (Score:1)
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He'll be with Chad Kolarik at the Connecticut Whale (which maybe because I am too young to really remember the Whalers, just sounds silly to me)

"I just hope Tressel doesn't fire me"

-Gordon Gee

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April 11th, 2011 at 3:12 PM | Go Rangers!! (Score:1)
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Go Rangers!!

 

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April 11th, 2011 at 4:20 PM | This brings up a somewhat threadjackey topic (Score:1)
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How hard is it to go from Sweden to the NHL?  I would think I would rather start there: more money, more status, probably higher quality play than the AHL.  Even if I were North American, but even more so if I were Swedish.

"I just hope Tressel doesn't fire me"

-Gordon Gee

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April 11th, 2011 at 5:36 PM | A player who demanded to play (Score:1)
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A player who demanded to play in Sweden rather than in his NHL club's farm team would not be looked upon favorably by management, and in fact is under contract to play wherever his NHL club loans him, which is almost certainly the AHL.

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April 11th, 2011 at 5:48 PM | Boom, you are correct. In the (Score:1)
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Boom, you are correct. In the AHL he will have close contact with his NHL club at all times and be available for call-up if they need him immediately.

I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.

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April 11th, 2011 at 9:49 PM | "which is almost certainly (Score:1)
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"which is almost certainly the AHL."

Probably, not necessarily.  There were several higher profile prospects loaned to european clubs this year.  It primarily depends on depth issues on the AHL teams.  I wasn't questioning what you said; just providing some additional context for those who are interested in that subject...

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April 11th, 2011 at 7:57 PM | man it seems depressing to be (Score:1)
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man it seems depressing to be a hockey senior right now. have the championship slip out of your grasp, take off your jersey for the last time, and then immediately go play at some soulless, half-empty AHL arena

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

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April 11th, 2011 at 8:23 PM | Three thoughts: (Score:1)
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Three thoughts:

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, and

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