Carl Hagelin Faces Disciplinary Hearing

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NEW YORK -- Rangers rookie Carl Hagelin has a hearing scheduled Sunday for his hit on Senators captain Daniel Alfredsson during Ottawa's 3-2 overtime win against New York on Saturday.

Hagelin earned a five-minute elbowing major for the play at 10:32 of the second period. Alfredsson left the game and did not return.

 

A little surprised as this type of aggression was never seen at U-M or to date for the Rangers but this sort of thing is far from unordinary in the NHL playoffs.

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rosedani

April 15th, 2012 at 3:33 PM ^

Comparing Weber's play and Hagelin's is like comparing apples and oranges. All season the league has been trying to get rid of plays exactly like Carl's (high elbows along the boards). Weber, although dirty as shit, isnt really what the league is trying to get rid of. If Carl isn't suspended i will be very surprised.  

denardogasm

April 15th, 2012 at 2:06 PM ^

I don't know how this earns a hearing but Weber just has to buy a new tv for the Commish's office.. Oh wait, yes I do.  Bettman hates the Red Wings.

Owl

April 15th, 2012 at 2:49 PM ^

Did you watch the Weber clip? You know, the one where he grabs Zetterberg by the head and slams him into the glass multiple times, cracking his helmet in two places? Hagelin’s can plausibly be explained away as lack of discipline. Weber’s was malicious.

Sac Fly

April 15th, 2012 at 3:00 PM ^

Of course it was malicious, except the outcome was nothing. Zetterburg missed no time, and was able to get up and skate off on his own. Every homer on this board is acting like this was McSorley on Brashear and it wasn't. 

Mr. Robot

April 15th, 2012 at 3:08 PM ^

So you can do whatever you want to a guy as long as it doesn't injure him and no penalties should be assessed.

Sorry, but Red Wing fans are going to continue to be convinced the league hastes us until they give us a reason to believe otherwise. That slap on the wrist for Weber's actions is a joke. They were even joking about it in practice the next day. Nashville finds it FUNNY that Weber got away with clear intent to cause a head injury.

Sac Fly

April 15th, 2012 at 3:30 PM ^

When has the NHL ever been tough with discipline? Chara threw Pacioretty into the turnbuckle and snapped his neck, didn't miss a single game.

I didn't say he shouldn't be suspended but The NHL isn't a league that goes hard with disipline, which is why the longest suspension in NHL history was only 30 games.

Sac Fly

April 15th, 2012 at 3:44 PM ^

McSorly missed the last 23 games of a terrible season for Boston, for his baseball bat swing to Brasher's head. Maybe it's just me but I think that was a weak suspension too.

Bertuzzi only got 20 games.

EricTheActor

April 15th, 2012 at 3:02 PM ^

Watch the replay on the Hagelin hit. The ref made the correct call but Alfie ducked a bit before the contact was made. We all know that KH is not a dirty player. He had no history of dirty hits or plays. Perhaps he gets sapped with a game or two if Alfie is out of the next game. The Carkner mugging was awesome to watch but he should be tossed from the playoffs. Obviously premeditated on his part.

justingoblue

April 15th, 2012 at 4:29 PM ^

Not that it's a great idea when talking about supplemental discipline, but I love the fact that hockey allows a more severe penalty for illegal plays that cause injuries. How ridiculous is it that Tom Gholston could have ended Denard's career at the cost of fifteen yards? Compare that to hockey where he could (and probably should have) been assessed a match penalty that banned him from team contact before a hearing with a maximum punishment of lifetime banishment, not to mention a five minute major.

In my opinion, hockey is just that much better for better tacking on additional penalties for dirty play causing injuries.

lhglrkwg

April 15th, 2012 at 2:31 PM ^

It looked like a pretty dirty game overall. Just from watching the highlights, Carl's hit was at best the 3rd or 4th worst hit in that game

medals

April 15th, 2012 at 4:59 PM ^

Zetterberg was ok after the Weber hit.  Alfredsson was not.  Shanahan was quoted today as saying that they look at the harm done in assessing the fine/suspensions.  Sucks b/c the intent to harm seems to have been more with Weber than with Hagelin.

 

OT question for your hockey folk - do you have any suggestions for Web sites to check hockey scores on Blackberries?  I routinely use ESPN b/c it is fast and current, but I cannot stomach that ESPN puts crappy regular season NBA games on its front page over NHL playoff games.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Tnx.

SCS100

April 15th, 2012 at 8:09 PM ^

He got three games for it. Three. Meanwhile, Weber gets a joke of a fine, and I highly doubt Neal's gonna get anything for attempting to concuss two Flyers today. The NHL has no hope for discipline.

EricTheActor

April 15th, 2012 at 8:17 PM ^

The only reason I can think of for issuing a 3 game suspension is that Alfredsson is still sleeping. If he plays in the next few games it's a complete joke. Shanahan's decision making certainly has become a punch line. Will be interesting to see how he handles the Pitt-Philly mess.

SCS100

April 15th, 2012 at 8:22 PM ^

The standard for years has been one game in the playoffs equals two in the regular season. That means that this suspension was worse than Keith's for knocking out Daniel Sedin (who still isn't back). I honestly don't get this one. Basically, I've lost faith in the NHL to ever get it right.

EricTheActor

April 15th, 2012 at 8:26 PM ^

This totally feels like a make-up call for the Weber clusterfuck. Zero consistency with the disciplinary committee. Alfie must be concussed again.



In comparison to what Keith did,the KH elbow wasn't even in the same stratosphere.

goblueram

April 15th, 2012 at 8:49 PM ^

I can see a Hagelin suspension for one game, but this is pretty ridiculous.  Weber certainly should have been suspended for at least one game.  I cannot comprehend why the resulting injury has anything to do with the decision to suspend.  The only thing that should matter is intent, period.  It makes no sense.  The majority of injuries are not a result of dirty plays.  

JustGoBlue

April 15th, 2012 at 9:12 PM ^

obviously did not "aim high", like the guys during the Florida/NJ game intermission asserted.  Carl is definitely a lover, not a fighter, I mean, look at that face!

JamieH

April 15th, 2012 at 10:23 PM ^

It's like going to work for the NHL melts your brain or something.  The utter lack of consistency in his penalties make absolutely no sense at all.   How you can watch a guy intentionally grab someone and WWE him into the glass BREAKING HIS HELMET and not even suspend him is ridiculous.