wow. mud bowl. its ugly to look at.
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Couldn't they have covered it up for the past day or so knowing the weather was going to be bad?
This was the same field as the Champs Sports Bowl that was played earlier this week. The same field that tore up Graig Cooper's knee, which might cause him to miss next year too.
I think it is ridiculous. If you're gonna have so many people use that field (high school, college, etc.) and you know you'll have to re-sod it during the year, you should replace it with Field Turf.
I don't remember where I saw this, but I read somewhere that the field is being replaced with field turf. Possibly sometime in 2010.
Yeah, it's going in after this game.
One of the national guys on CBS radio talked about driving to the field to cover a game and getting his back windshield shot out while trying to find a place to park, and that he will never go there again. It's hard to believe they get two bowl games on this field.
If they are going to have two bowls anywhere, Land Shark Stadium has its own freeway exit directly into the parking lot, and Raymond James is almost as centrally located as Orlando. Either would be better than what they currently have.
I think the natural-grass field is going the way of the dinosaur. Today's players are too heavy, and teams are playing too many games per season, for grass to have a chance to survive.
Watch the Rose Bowl this afternoon and try to imagine it on field turf. I still think grass is the most ideal surface except in cases of bad climate, maintenance, or overuse. It's held up well at the Outback Bowl at least.
Field Turf didn't prevent Michigan Stadium from being one of the greatest venues in the country. It wouldn't change the Rose Bowl much, either.
a top notch track. I don't miss the grass at all in the BIG House.
Tartan Turf. After the project to tear up the old carpet, and lower the field, the prescription grass was surprisingly bad; for people like me who remember the old grass, it was hard to understand. Very poorly executed. (As you may know, there is, or was, a natural aquifer flowing underneath Michigan Stadium. But the original grass field drained beautifully. The day that Ron Johnson ran for 347 yards was horrible -- lots of rain, then freezing rain and sleet. But traction was fine.)
In the 1960s, offensive linemen mostly weighed in the neighborhood of 225 pounds, and teams only played 5-6 home games a year. Today's players are much heavier (putting considerably more strain on the turf every time they plant) and play more games per season. It's not surprising that grass fields all over the place look like crap.
That field is a joke.
My cousin is at the game and he called and said it was terrible
I've been waiting for a firsthand account. It's really hard to tell whether the field is actually bad or not on television.
Otherwise you need a bigger tv. ;-)
The poor football players are getting their jerseys muddy.
It's not the muddy jerseys that's the problem..
It's the injury risks associated with having to run in a muddy field.. If your leg happens to get caught in a hole while you're running full speed, your knee can easily buckle, and you'll get to kiss your football career goodbye..
Look at how lumpy the field is. Better tape your ankles, kids.
The field is a mess, but it is negating the speed advantage LSU's WR's would have over the bigger PSU defense.
I don't think I've fully transitioned to the new spread offense we run, I still like messy field and huge LB's pounding everything in sight. I would love to see Hart running behind Long on that field..
Man, I need a UM bowl again.. this isn't the right day for nostalgia..
the players deserve better.
to invest in a zamboni. It's crazy, but it just might work.
These days wouldnt be surprised if Cooper Sued.
Never seen anything like this in any sport. I know they got a lot of rain but that field must have very poor drainage, sod that hasn't rooted at all, or both.
My old high school field. Every game was like that, rain or shine.
But then even they have popped for the fieldturf now...
and the dirt in the middle of the field. But now a number of high schools have field turf.
The way it looks right now the big ten will get two wins on this turf.
That flag on Clark was late by about 1 minute. And what the hell is happening right now with the review and whatever?
Just giving LSU a home field advantage. They do play in a swamp for crying out loud.
Hey Capital One.... how 'bout dropping some bucks for new turf! I mean, c'mon.... what's in your wallet?
Nice job by Carl Spackler
I think that Penn State's only chance of winning would be on this type of field for the sole reason that LSU's speed is pretty much a non-factor(other than Holiday).
we wouldnt have this problem if they played some bowl games in the north, where we have cold turf. it makes me angry how all the bowl games are in the south. maybe the big 10 might win some bowls in the cold.
the most northern bcs game is the rose bowl. thats ridiculous
I don't like the "road game" aspect for northern teams having to play their games in the south, but I'm not one of those who thinks the "frozen tundra" game is the be-all and end-all of what football is supposed to be. It isn't always fair to play the games in the south, but it is the right call. Bowl games are supposed to be a reward for a good season; I can't imagine playing a game in Jaunary in the Big House being seen as a "reward" for anything, especially for players who are two months removed from temps in the high 80's.
A nice compromise, though, might be playing some better bowls in domed stadiums. It might be pretty cool to see a couple of those Big Ten/SEC or Big East/ACC matchups in places like Indy, Minnesota, Detroit, or Syracuse.
The last time I saw a field in that bad of shape, I was watching a newsreel of Afganistan.
Maybe they should have just hosed the whole field down and had a mudbowl.
...if it was the cheerleaders.
That field was a chunky mess at the 2008 game, too. They beat the heck out of it with two bowl games and the other stuff they hold on it in the fall, but what doesn't help is the fact that the Capital One Bowl insists on having one of those elaborate pregame and halftime spectaculars with 8 million cheerleaders and a portable stage and pyrotechnics and such. Which alongside the band shows puts a pretty big strain on the surface. If you noticed, the biggest chunks of turf were behind the bowl logo, the area where the crap would have been parked (and moved on and off) for the shows so the press box shot would get the bowl logo and the stage in view. It wasn't just the players causing that chunking.
Also, the comments about the Citrus Bowl being a dump are spot on. The neighborhood around it is pretty awful, and the stadium itself is a crumbly concrete shack. The concourses (at least in the end of the stadium I was in) were surfaced in wood chips. The bathrooms were in separate little mobile home deals underneath the bleachers. The whole thing made Ryan Field in Evanston look like the Taj Mahal. Total rinky-dink.
My favorite moment of the entire Citrus Bowl experience came after the game. On the ends of the rows of bleachers there were these little Citrus Bowl logo medallions. My friend kind of stamped on the bleacher right above it, and we hear a clinking noise. the little medallion just fell right off onto the crumbling stairs. Looking at the ends of the rest of the rows, it's clear it was an endemic problem. Oh well, instant souvenir!
Actually, the times I've been there, I can agree with a lot you say. The neighborhood is shit, the field wrecked by all their Orange Bowl-lite stuff, and it's not in the best condition. But I never had the bathroom experience you did, or stuff falling on me. Maybe the SEC section has lower standards... ;-)
However the team hotel and area around it are some of the best of any bowl, and that certainly makes up for the short drive to the ghetto.
Not even Shawn Crable could get traction on that field.
would have been a huge improvement to that field. A muddy field is just slippery but the surface that this turf that hadn't taken presented was ridiculous. I feel terrible for the Miami player who tore up his knee. No one could cut on that field because as soon as they put too much pressure on a piece of turf it just rolled out from under their feet. You would expect better from an organization bringing in a ton of money from a bowl game.