Can we end the debate of the # 1 jersey?

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September 11th, 2011 at 8:02 AM
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VinnieMac25
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Can we end the debate of the # 1 jersey?

I  would just like to remove the 2 from Juniors Hemingways jersey.  This is why IMO, he should have it.  Kid makes big plays, in key moments.  Being double teamed, going up and getting the jump balls is what really sells it.  He wants that ball so much.  Sure he might lack a little breakaway speed, but he's a gamer! 

I really like Roy Roundtree don't get me wrong.  He does make plays.  So glad we used some snake oil to get him.  Being quiet all night, to ask for the ball and make the GW TD catch is pretty magical.  Most definately an ESPN classic.  However I just don't think he garners enough impact presence on the field to consistently make that big play.  Junior is that player. 

I underdstand the eligibilty with both players, just curious to see some opinions on this matter.  There has been so much debate with the # 1.  Will we see it worn by another receiever?  Or has one of these two done enough to wear it now?

 

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September 11th, 2011 at 8:05 AM | Not yet (Score:5 Normal)
umfan323
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I still dont think any of these WR are as dominant or will be as dominant as former #1's .....

September 11th, 2011 at 8:07 AM | Both good players.  Elite?  (Score:3 Normal)
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Both good players.  Elite?  I'm not so sure.  A smarter man than me could probably run an analysis of some sort to support your desire. 

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September 11th, 2011 at 8:09 AM | agreed (Score:1)
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in my mind I don't think anyone is that close to earning it yet.  it should come after a full season of domination, not just a game here and there.  roy did make a nice case last year though.

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September 11th, 2011 at 8:14 AM | Perhaps #21 is the new #1. It (Score:2 Normal)
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Perhaps #21 is the new #1. It should be a big honor to wear #21.Just add a patch to Junior's #21 jersey with HIS name on it.

September 11th, 2011 at 8:46 AM | Good point didn't mean to overlook that. (Score:1)
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Good point didn't mean to overlook that. Guess we do have another special number for UM players to wear!

GBOD

September 11th, 2011 at 11:39 AM | I'm superstious (Score:1)
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Let him keep 21

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September 11th, 2011 at 8:17 AM | No (Score:5 Normal)
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I thought he was the right guy to wear #21 last night.

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September 11th, 2011 at 9:13 AM | Right (Score:5 Normal)
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At this point, I don't know if Hemingway would even want the #1 if offered.  21 seems to work pretty well for him.

September 11th, 2011 at 8:18 AM | Nobody is close to deserving (Score:1 Normal)
cbuswolverine
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Nobody is close to deserving at this point.

September 11th, 2011 at 8:37 AM | Agreed 100% (Score:2)
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As much as I love Junior and Roy, they aren't special....take over a game receivers. All number 1's in the past were special and took over games.

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September 11th, 2011 at 9:05 AM | Except for Tyrone Butterfingers (Score:1)
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What a massive disappointment.

September 11th, 2011 at 10:26 AM | C'mon, don't forget Tyrone's game-winning drop (Score:1)
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September 11th, 2011 at 8:27 AM | Obviously it never bore out, (Score:2)
Pure Colombian ...
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Obviously it never bore out, but wasn't Stonum promised the #1 jersey by Carr while he was being recruited?

September 11th, 2011 at 8:30 AM | Question on roster (Score:1)
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Didn't want to start a whole new thread, but I don't see a #6 on the listed roster and was wondering if anyone knew if someone changed jersey numbers.

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September 11th, 2011 at 8:44 AM | #6 (Score:2 Normal)
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was ex-wolverine Je'ron Stokes.

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September 11th, 2011 at 9:12 AM | (Score:1)
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They should give it back to Furman

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September 11th, 2011 at 10:04 AM | Your Avatar (Score:1)
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September 11th, 2011 at 8:46 AM | I'm with you.  I think (Score:1)
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I'm with you.  I think Hemingway will be a big time NFL prospect and may go in the 2nd-3rd round.  He has size and makes plays -- too bad he hasn't been healthy for much of his career.

September 11th, 2011 at 9:04 AM | Give it to Hemingway (Score:3 Normal)
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I don't like the idea of keeping the jersey from the field at all.  How many years has it been since anyone's been allowed to wear that number?   Might as well retire it.

The #1 jersey wasn't even a big thing, wasn't a  tradition until Carr told Edwards he had to earn it.   Why are we being so stingy with the number?

Give it to a senior WR who's done things right on and off the field.  Stop waiting for a "dominant WR" to come along.  It's college football,  give it to a deserving senior , not "let's wait till we have a #1 NFL draft pick at WR again".

 

September 11th, 2011 at 9:16 AM | You are absolutely wrong my friend (Score:1 Normal)
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You are absolutely wrong my friend, the #1 Jersey was there way before Braylon Edwards. Remember Alexander? How about David Terrel? There was a reason Braylon "asked" for it. The #1 Jersey is a huge part of the UM tradition and should not just nochalantly go to a senior that had a good spring/fall training camp or has good grades. We have plenty of those. You have to DOM1NATE for the #1 baby...

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September 11th, 2011 at 9:27 AM | huh? (Score:3 Normal)
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What did Alexander and Terrell do to earn the #1 jersey?

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September 11th, 2011 at 9:44 AM | No need for an eloborate argument (Score:1)
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No need for an elaborate article filled with stats or other giborish. Both were All Big Ten, both were All Americans, and both were 1st rd picks in the NFL. The same goes for everybody that has worn the Jersey. Anybody on our roster fitting that description????

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September 11th, 2011 at 10:13 AM | Disagree (Score:3 Normal)
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There was no special emphasis on "earning" the #1 jersey until Braylon.

Remember Tyrone Butterfield who wore #1 as a freshman?  IIRC he wound up transferring.

http://141.211.39.65/allroster/FMPro?-DB=allrost.fp5&-Format=fbresult.ht...

David Terrel had the number as a freshman as well, what had he done to earn it then?

http://141.211.39.65/allroster/FMPro?-DB=allrost.fp5&-Format=fbresult.ht...

Tai Streets was the leading WR that year, yet he wasn't wearing #1.  

The national championship team didn't even have a #1 on the roster.

http://141.211.39.65/allroster/FMPro?-DB=allrost.fp5&-Format=fbresult.ht...

 

September 11th, 2011 at 1:42 PM | Butterfield was a juco (Score:2)
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Butterfield was a juco transfer.  Not sure if that's better or worse than giving it to a freshman.

September 11th, 2011 at 9:58 AM | Are you serious?! (Score:2)
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Did you watch them play?! They were beasts in college.

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September 11th, 2011 at 11:26 AM | Not his point, I think. (Score:4 Normal)
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Yes, they were beasts in college, but they were given the #1 jersey as Freshmen (or as a Sophomore, in Alexander's case).  They didn't "earn" the jersey; they were given it.

Haven't we had this discussion a million times on this board?  None of the numbers never meant anything until one particular student-athlete decided that one particular number meant something, and the coaching staff let him think that.  We don't have to agree.

 

September 11th, 2011 at 9:37 AM | Significance of the #1 jersey reduced (Score:3 Normal)
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The honor of wearing the #21 jersey w/ Desmond's name on it, trumps the significance of the #1 jersey.  Given the choice, I'd keep the #21.

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September 11th, 2011 at 10:26 AM | 100"% agree... the night belonged to Desmond... (Score:1)
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post last night Gallon probably deserved the #1...his play was reminiscent of Carter in 79 vs. the Hoosiers.  Wow...what a game.  If he had scored who could argue.  Wow what a game.

As it is ... it was perhaps more fitting to have Roundtree win it on a Desmond like grab in the corner.

Edwards would approve...I repeat...what a game...it's what makes CFB great.

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September 11th, 2011 at 9:44 AM | I am so not hating on you (Score:0)
September 11th, 2011 at 9:59 AM | Because Tyrone Butterfield (Score:1)
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Because Tyrone Butterfield was an elite receiver...

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September 11th, 2011 at 10:04 AM | Stonum (Score:1)
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Stonum will get the #1 when he returns next year....without a doubt

September 11th, 2011 at 10:17 AM | Of anyone were to get the (Score:1)
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Of anyone were to get the number 1 jersey it should've Denard, without him last night would not have happened.

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September 11th, 2011 at 10:46 AM | The running game, yes. But (Score:1)
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The running game, yes. But the passing game was almost exclusively receivers making athletic plays to win battles or ND just not covering people. 

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September 11th, 2011 at 11:26 AM | (Score:3 Normal)
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Or hemingway dropping the first two passes of the second half

September 11th, 2011 at 1:52 PM | Did you not see what Denard (Score:1)
jmblue
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Did you not see what Denard had to do to buy time for himself in the pocket on a lot of those throws?

September 11th, 2011 at 10:24 AM | Greg Willner says (Score:2 Normal)
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give it to Matt Wile or Brendan Gibbons.

September 11th, 2011 at 10:45 AM | They should just take of the (Score:1)
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They should just take of the #21 from his jersey and put an S on his chest, because Denard is going to be looking for him to save the day quite a few times more this year. Thank god we have a playmaker like him (Gallon and Roundtree too, they're apart of this stat) to go win 50/50 balls, we were something like 5/6 on 50/50 jump balls (sorry, one was 33/66, as Junior was in double coverage). Without that I don't think we even score. He deserves the #1.

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September 11th, 2011 at 11:24 AM | Thread Summary (Score:1)
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The answer to the OP quiestion -- Can we end the debate of the # 1 jersey?  Is apparently NO.

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September 11th, 2011 at 12:11 PM | I think the #1 should go to (Score:4 Normal)
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I think the #1 should go to J.T. Floyd.

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September 11th, 2011 at 1:27 PM | I like the #1 and #2 (Score:1)
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I like the #1 and #2 tradition if it truly becomes tradition.  I also think it would be fine to just issue the jeseys and let actions on the field dictate their history.  

Other programs venerate there traditions (I'm specifically thinking of the Penn State defense) in different ways.  It serves a school well to remember the players before them however that is done.

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