Can RR still help himself before the meeting with DB?

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January 1st, 2011 at 11:39 PM
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pullin4blue
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Can RR still help himself before the meeting with DB?

I am wondering if RR can help himself before his meeting with Brandon by making some executive decisions as the Head Coach. Until announced differently, he is still in charge of football operations. If I was RR I would fire GERG today, immediately after the game or when the team arrives home tonight. Show Brandon that you are still in charge. Also, have a list of names to present as replacements. I would make some difficult decisions with assistant defensive coaches as well and any special teams coach/kicking coach. Take the bull by the horns and lead by example. Haters are gonna hate, but it sure makes it harder for them when they can see you're doing everything you can to try to get better.

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January 1st, 2011 at 11:41 PM | no (Score:1)
michgoblue
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At the end of the day, RR is the head coach and the results are his responsibility.  This team (sorry to say) is in shambles.  The defense got 1 stop.  The special teams are as bad as I have ever heard of.  And the amazing offense - 2nd straight poor showing after the initial drive (here 2 drives).

Sorry, the results are what they are.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:59 PM | Right about responsbility is (Score:1)
bluenyc
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Right about responsbility is all RR.  I think it was 2 stops.  The D forced a FG after the blocked punt and MSU's first possession of the 2nd half .  I think those were the only stops and 3 and outs as well.  I didn't concentrate in the 4Q.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:42 PM | Umm, unless he can schedule (Score:1)
Fuzzy Dunlop
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Umm, unless he can schedule an Ohio State game for next week, with the suspensions in effect, the answer is no.

January 2nd, 2011 at 3:30 AM | actually he could go ahead (Score:1)
TNWolverine
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actually he could go ahead and put his house on the market.

"Only fat people wear hawaiian shirts in Tennessee" -co worker

January 1st, 2011 at 11:43 PM | Never hurts to try (Score:1)
M-Wolverine
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But what if he fires a bunch of his buddies, and then STILL gets canned?  Does he want to alienate those relationships for a lost cause?

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

January 1st, 2011 at 11:47 PM | That is what I was thinking, (Score:1)
nsweet
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That is what I was thinking, wouldn't look that well for him.  I think asst. coaching changes come after RR is given another year (if that does happen).

January 2nd, 2011 at 1:22 AM | RR may want many of his coaches (Score:1)
uminks
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RR will want to take many of his coaches with him where ever he ends up. Probably will sign a new long term contract with Maryland or Clemson, and Casteel may end up being his DC again.  Why would he want to embarrass his friends by firing them!

expect the best

January 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 AM | this cronyism is what (Score:1)
coldnjl
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this cronyism is what ultimately will get him fired. I hope he learns this for his next stop. I only see afew competent assistants on his staff, such as coach Frey

January 2nd, 2011 at 11:03 AM | Exactly (Score:1)
TIMMMAAY
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He will not do this. Guaranteed.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

January 1st, 2011 at 11:44 PM | Not unless he can convince (Score:1)
MontuckyYooper
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Not unless he can convince Harbaugh to take the Niners job.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:47 PM | Then we'll hire Brady Hoke.  (Score:1)
jmblue
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Then we'll hire Brady Hoke.  It's going to be one of those two.

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 AM | Lalalalala I can't hear you (Score:1)
MontuckyYooper
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Lalalalala I can't hear you lalalalalalala

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 AM | Somehow I really doubt that (Score:1)
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Somehow I really doubt that Brady Hoke is Plan B. I think he is the "If all else fails" guy.

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:26 AM | If it is an "all else fails" scenario... (Score:1)
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I'm putting myself in a time capsule, with a note "do not to open until 2020"

January 2nd, 2011 at 1:31 AM | what happens when the world (Score:1)
Mich_Faithful
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what happens when the world ends in 2012?

How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

January 2nd, 2011 at 1:55 AM | I guess on the plus side, (Score:1)
IanO
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I guess on the plus side, despite our fantastic flameout, we'd go out as the winningest program of all time.

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:37 AM | Hoke is more highly (Score:1)
jmblue
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Hoke is more highly thought-of than that.  At this point, keeping RR is the "if all else fails" option.

January 2nd, 2011 at 1:26 AM | I think BH will be down on the list (Score:1)
uminks
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If not JH, I think we'll see a big name coach here, may be even a former NFL coach? If all else fails, after a couple weeks, then BH may have a chance. I think if we don't have a new coach by Jan 20 and RR was let go, I would say welcome aboard BH!

expect the best

January 2nd, 2011 at 2:27 AM | I personally would take BH if (Score:1)
WorldwideTJRob
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I personally would take BH if its between him and some NFL Assitant

January 1st, 2011 at 11:45 PM | He needed (Score:1)
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He needed to fire Greg after the game and told him to find his own ride home!

GMW

January 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 AM | I was hoping GERG wouldn't (Score:1)
XXII
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I was hoping GERG wouldn't come out of the locker room after the half.

January 2nd, 2011 at 10:05 AM | same for gibson. worst (Score:1)
coldnjl
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same for gibson. worst position coach i have seen

January 1st, 2011 at 11:45 PM | RichRod has mentioned getting mistakes "corrected" (Score:1)
markusr2007
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over and over again, yet we've seen very little improvement in defensive responsibilities, reads, tackling angles and tackling skills.  Few interceptions and forced turnover. The strategy and tactics on defense have been a shambles since he's arrived.

The team is young, but getting blown out by a mediocre SEC team by 38 points on national television - man, that is an effing disgrace for most Division I college football teams, let alone the Michigan Wolverines.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:49 PM | Mediocre? (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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MSU was hardly mediocre. They are a top 20 team that lost only to teams ranked ahead of them. Plus, they were cavorts to win. That said, the final score is definitely embarrassing.

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

January 1st, 2011 at 11:50 PM | This mediocre SEC team lost to Auburn 17-14 (Score:1)
DixieWreck
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Their other mediocre losses were to LSU, Alabama and Arkansas.  As I read someone else state, they were a 100 grand shy of potentially being in the National Championship.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:53 PM | I can't believe people are (Score:1)
jmblue
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I can't believe people are trying to put lipstick on this pig of a humiliation.  For crying out loud, we lost even worse than the 1968 team did to OSU - and that OSU team won the national title.

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 AM | good point (Score:1)
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I think Bump basically stepped down after that game due to shame.

Go Blue!

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:05 AM | 1968? (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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Really? I was a history major and enjoy a good discussion about the past but are you really comparing this loss to a loss in 1968? Why? I'd say college football was just a tad different back then, no?

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

January 2nd, 2011 at 2:21 AM | +1 and also LOL to whomever (Score:1)
Michael
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+1 and also LOL to whomever negged you. It's sad that there's no place for an academic argument on this blog. After all, we shouldn't expect Michigan fans to be familiar with academics or anything.

c/o 2008
GO BLUE!

January 2nd, 2011 at 4:06 AM | Also, nice Palin reference. (Score:1)
Michael
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Also, nice Palin reference. I'm sure that really boosts your intellecutal credentials.

c/o 2008
GO BLUE!

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:18 AM | Using the term mediocre to (Score:1)
MAIZEandBLUE2002
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Using the term mediocre to describe Miss St is what is wrong with college football. People's perception does not meet reality. Miss St is a very solid team who had had a chance to beat Auburn. But since they are Miss St that must mean they are mediocre and should never lose to Michigan. Big name programs does not mean you are automatically better than a team whose name doesnt mean as much. It was clear coming into this game that Miss St  was better than UM, but most experts picked Michigan, bc of the name. Just like TCU playing in the Rose Bowl. People were saying Wisconsin was going to roll over them. TCU is one of the most balanced teams in college football and was not shocked by them winning. Personally, I think they could handle both Auburn and Oregon.

Its obvious that Michigan has not improved as much as people think. The offense is cleary not the 6th best in the nation as already stated. The defense has gotten worse each game and special teams was consistently bad. I love RR but it is getting harder and harder to defend him. Im not sure how he can help himself. Regardless of who the head coach is, we know we will have a new DC. Im not sure RR firing Gerg himself would do any good. Anyways, heres to hoping RR gets 1 more year, if not, then lets embrace whoever the new coach may be.

THOSE WHO STAY WILL BE CHAMPIONS

January 2nd, 2011 at 7:22 AM | Yes I'll give you they are (Score:1)
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Yes I'll give you they are better than mediocre, but let's not make them to be some type of world-class team either. Fact is we were totally unprepared for what we faced on the field yesterday against a team who kept it pretty basic.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:45 PM | RR is a loyal guy (Score:1)
orobs
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Say what you will about his coaching ability, but RR is a good man.  He would never go all cavalier and fire his assistants as his possible last act as head coach.  It is clear that Gerg will be gone, but it is too little too late for a move like this to have any effect.  

January 1st, 2011 at 11:46 PM | That's an interesting (Score:1)
Wendyk5
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That's an interesting thought. Will RR be proactive, or will he wait and see what happens? Does he need DB's approval to get rid of a DC? Do DC's have contracts? And what about guys he brought with him from WVU? If he gets rid of any of them, and then is fired himself, he can pretty much kiss any future relationship goodbye, so does he stay loyal? 

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 AM | Only question there I can (Score:1)
justingoblue
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Only question there I can answer is that, yes, RR has sole authority to fire an assistant. Of course, Brandon could put an ultimatium in front of him too.

Go Blue!

January 1st, 2011 at 11:46 PM | Countermeasures (Score:1)
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The only way he can save his job is to have a countermeasure plan ready to present to DB if he were to say what would you do if we keep you another year. Something along the lines of new DC, new D scheme, changing play calling, etc. If he goes in without any kind of plan he is gone for sure and rightly should not be a coach in that light.

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 AM | Hmm..no.. That aint gonna (Score:1)
cypress
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Hmm..no..

That aint gonna do it.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:46 PM | Yeah (Score:1)
rman247
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I bet if he could get Braxton miller, javedeon clowney, Cyrus kouandjio, Ray drew and Christian westerman to commit and sign only if rr is the coach, then it might help him out. Sadly I dont think that is possible.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:46 PM | The on field data points are (Score:1)
Wolv1984
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The on field data points are in.  Data for every B10 game we played this year, data for having 15 practices to prep for one game and the fact it resulted in a blowout loss.  

There just isn't any kind of meaningful action you can take at this point that would be significant next to that data.  

January 1st, 2011 at 11:47 PM | Greg (Score:1)
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Greg, ( Piece of SHIT )

GMW

January 1st, 2011 at 11:51 PM | We all want him replaced (Score:1)
Erik_in_Dayton
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We don't need to talk about him like he's Charles Manson.  He's a good guy, by all accounts.

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

January 1st, 2011 at 11:52 PM | Inappropriate (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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Troll much?

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

January 1st, 2011 at 11:53 PM | Not trolling (Score:1)
BlueDragon
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Just drunk and likely to be sent to Bolivia.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

January 2nd, 2011 at 12:02 AM | Happy to help fund his trip (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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Enjoy your one way trip, sir. Have one on me!

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

January 1st, 2011 at 11:50 PM | I hate to say it, but what RR (Score:1)
Rmilkman
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I hate to say it, but what RR says no longer means anything. What matters is the performance on the field, which is horrible.

DB has already made his decision one way or the other. It's just a matter of waiting until the announcement at this point.

"I'm Harmon Tedesco, best goddamn placekicker in the whole continental world."

January 1st, 2011 at 11:51 PM | Show Brandon that you are (Score:1)
jmblue
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Show Brandon that you are still in charge.

So what?  Is Brandon going to do a 180 just because RR will try the same scapegoating crap he did two years ago with Shafer?  

I'm sorry, but RR is finished here.  He can help himself by having his agent contact Maryland or anyone else looking for a coach.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:51 PM | Nope (Score:1)
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The fat lady has sung.

January 1st, 2011 at 11:51 PM | No. (Score:1)
BlueDragon
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No.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

January 1st, 2011 at 11:59 PM | uhhhhhhhh .....pretty sure we all heard her today .... (Score:1)
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unless that was Mama Cass ....

Go Blue !

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January 1st, 2011 at 11:53 PM | RR's fate (Score:1)
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DOOM

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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