I am wondering if RR can help himself before his meeting with Brandon by making some executive decisions as the Head Coach. Until announced differently, he is still in charge of football operations. If I was RR I would fire GERG today, immediately after the game or when the team arrives home tonight. Show Brandon that you are still in charge. Also, have a list of names to present as replacements. I would make some difficult decisions with assistant defensive coaches as well and any special teams coach/kicking coach. Take the bull by the horns and lead by example. Haters are gonna hate, but it sure makes it harder for them when they can see you're doing everything you can to try to get better.
Can RR still help himself before the meeting with DB?
At the end of the day, RR is the head coach and the results are his responsibility. This team (sorry to say) is in shambles. The defense got 1 stop. The special teams are as bad as I have ever heard of. And the amazing offense - 2nd straight poor showing after the initial drive (here 2 drives).
Sorry, the results are what they are.
Right about responsbility is all RR. I think it was 2 stops. The D forced a FG after the blocked punt and MSU's first possession of the 2nd half . I think those were the only stops and 3 and outs as well. I didn't concentrate in the 4Q.
Umm, unless he can schedule an Ohio State game for next week, with the suspensions in effect, the answer is no.
actually he could go ahead and put his house on the market.
But what if he fires a bunch of his buddies, and then STILL gets canned? Does he want to alienate those relationships for a lost cause?
That is what I was thinking, wouldn't look that well for him. I think asst. coaching changes come after RR is given another year (if that does happen).
RR will want to take many of his coaches with him where ever he ends up. Probably will sign a new long term contract with Maryland or Clemson, and Casteel may end up being his DC again. Why would he want to embarrass his friends by firing them!
this cronyism is what ultimately will get him fired. I hope he learns this for his next stop. I only see afew competent assistants on his staff, such as coach Frey
He will not do this. Guaranteed.
Not unless he can convince Harbaugh to take the Niners job.
Then we'll hire Brady Hoke. It's going to be one of those two.
Lalalalala I can't hear you lalalalalalala
I'm putting myself in a time capsule, with a note "do not to open until 2020"
what happens when the world ends in 2012?
I guess on the plus side, despite our fantastic flameout, we'd go out as the winningest program of all time.
Hoke is more highly thought-of than that. At this point, keeping RR is the "if all else fails" option.
If not JH, I think we'll see a big name coach here, may be even a former NFL coach? If all else fails, after a couple weeks, then BH may have a chance. I think if we don't have a new coach by Jan 20 and RR was let go, I would say welcome aboard BH!
I personally would take BH if its between him and some NFL Assitant
He needed to fire Greg after the game and told him to find his own ride home!
I was hoping GERG wouldn't come out of the locker room after the half.
same for gibson. worst position coach i have seen
over and over again, yet we've seen very little improvement in defensive responsibilities, reads, tackling angles and tackling skills. Few interceptions and forced turnover. The strategy and tactics on defense have been a shambles since he's arrived.
The team is young, but getting blown out by a mediocre SEC team by 38 points on national television - man, that is an effing disgrace for most Division I college football teams, let alone the Michigan Wolverines.
MSU was hardly mediocre. They are a top 20 team that lost only to teams ranked ahead of them. Plus, they were cavorts to win. That said, the final score is definitely embarrassing.
Their other mediocre losses were to LSU, Alabama and Arkansas. As I read someone else state, they were a 100 grand shy of potentially being in the National Championship.
I can't believe people are trying to put lipstick on this pig of a humiliation. For crying out loud, we lost even worse than the 1968 team did to OSU - and that OSU team won the national title.
I think Bump basically stepped down after that game due to shame.
Really? I was a history major and enjoy a good discussion about the past but are you really comparing this loss to a loss in 1968? Why? I'd say college football was just a tad different back then, no?
+1 and also LOL to whomever negged you. It's sad that there's no place for an academic argument on this blog. After all, we shouldn't expect Michigan fans to be familiar with academics or anything.
Also, nice Palin reference. I'm sure that really boosts your intellecutal credentials.
Using the term mediocre to describe Miss St is what is wrong with college football. People's perception does not meet reality. Miss St is a very solid team who had had a chance to beat Auburn. But since they are Miss St that must mean they are mediocre and should never lose to Michigan. Big name programs does not mean you are automatically better than a team whose name doesnt mean as much. It was clear coming into this game that Miss St was better than UM, but most experts picked Michigan, bc of the name. Just like TCU playing in the Rose Bowl. People were saying Wisconsin was going to roll over them. TCU is one of the most balanced teams in college football and was not shocked by them winning. Personally, I think they could handle both Auburn and Oregon.
Its obvious that Michigan has not improved as much as people think. The offense is cleary not the 6th best in the nation as already stated. The defense has gotten worse each game and special teams was consistently bad. I love RR but it is getting harder and harder to defend him. Im not sure how he can help himself. Regardless of who the head coach is, we know we will have a new DC. Im not sure RR firing Gerg himself would do any good. Anyways, heres to hoping RR gets 1 more year, if not, then lets embrace whoever the new coach may be.
Yes I'll give you they are better than mediocre, but let's not make them to be some type of world-class team either. Fact is we were totally unprepared for what we faced on the field yesterday against a team who kept it pretty basic.
Say what you will about his coaching ability, but RR is a good man. He would never go all cavalier and fire his assistants as his possible last act as head coach. It is clear that Gerg will be gone, but it is too little too late for a move like this to have any effect.
That's an interesting thought. Will RR be proactive, or will he wait and see what happens? Does he need DB's approval to get rid of a DC? Do DC's have contracts? And what about guys he brought with him from WVU? If he gets rid of any of them, and then is fired himself, he can pretty much kiss any future relationship goodbye, so does he stay loyal?
Only question there I can answer is that, yes, RR has sole authority to fire an assistant. Of course, Brandon could put an ultimatium in front of him too.
The only way he can save his job is to have a countermeasure plan ready to present to DB if he were to say what would you do if we keep you another year. Something along the lines of new DC, new D scheme, changing play calling, etc. If he goes in without any kind of plan he is gone for sure and rightly should not be a coach in that light.
I bet if he could get Braxton miller, javedeon clowney, Cyrus kouandjio, Ray drew and Christian westerman to commit and sign only if rr is the coach, then it might help him out. Sadly I dont think that is possible.
The on field data points are in. Data for every B10 game we played this year, data for having 15 practices to prep for one game and the fact it resulted in a blowout loss.
There just isn't any kind of meaningful action you can take at this point that would be significant next to that data.
Greg, ( Piece of SHIT )
We don't need to talk about him like he's Charles Manson. He's a good guy, by all accounts.
I hate to say it, but what RR says no longer means anything. What matters is the performance on the field, which is horrible.
DB has already made his decision one way or the other. It's just a matter of waiting until the announcement at this point.
Show Brandon that you are still in charge.
So what? Is Brandon going to do a 180 just because RR will try the same scapegoating crap he did two years ago with Shafer?
I'm sorry, but RR is finished here. He can help himself by having his agent contact Maryland or anyone else looking for a coach.
The fat lady has sung.
unless that was Mama Cass ....
Go Blue !
Richrod should do some stretching beforehand, then try not to clench.
Trying to preemptively hire or fire staff before Brandon has his say would be pretty desperate and would not fly. Maybe the only thing that might help would be to get a verbal commitment from Casteel to take the DC position, should DB be willing to consider that direction. Even that would be a long shot to save his job at this point, I would think.
The players will lobby for Coach Rod to keep his job but not sure how that will end up. Mike Martin and Taylor Lewan have asked for his return.
My favorite was when Robert Traylor vowed to go pro if Brian Ellerbe wasn't given the job permanently. He got the job - and the Traylor left for the NBA.
Get David Brandon a gift card to The Landing Strip
+1 for Varsity Blues reference. I think we all have a bad case of the blues right now.
is keep the car running so when he gets in to leave town the engine will be warm.....just like his seat!! He-yo.
Shoot me...this is a terrible day for UofM
Find naked pictures of DB with farm animals and dead underage hookers. Other than that his situation is pretty much set.
Sorry to say, but he's done like dinner.
It's kind of like the Maryland situation. They were going to keep Fridge until his assistants all found other gigs. They realized they couldn't assemble a staff with one year left on the HC contract, had to can him.
Everybody knows the defensive side of the ball has to go at the very least, but who could they get? Rich has two years left on his contract, and is on the "hot seat." Who's to say he'd see the end of that? What top notch defensive staff is going to risk their career for such uncertainty?
I think there's one play here. Harbaugh is out there, this might be the last opportunity to get him, Rich isn't showing the kind of things we need to see. I generally say a coach needs at least 4 or 5 years. It's a shame Rich wont be afforded that luxury. I truly think he'll be pretty damn successful wherever he lands next.
Michigan has competition for Harbaugh's services. If JH has or will say yes, then it's a done deal.
In regards to the OP, I think has been obvious to all that the state of the defense is unacceptable. The argument for keeping RichRod, i.e. RichRod + New DC, is nothing new. In fact, if RichRod wasn't looking for a new DC, then an accepting JH would have been a slam dunk even before the debacle today.
IMO, what might have changed today is that Plan B's might be on the table. And there's gotta be a Plan B that's more attractive than RichRod + GERG/this defensive staff.
RR should be successful as long as he stays out of actual football conferences. UM would have been a very good Big East or MAC team this year. Maybe he goes to Pitt to piss of WV more. Maybe he tries out the NFL as a position coach, like linebackers...oh, nevermind.
Let's be honest, Rich Rod needed to either win the game or show improvement in areas of weakness, namely the defense and special teams. It did not happen. He's gone. In fact, the weaknesses we saw during the season were highlighted to an even greater degree. The defense is a complete mess, with poor fundamentals and poor talent.
It's time for a fresh start. I just hope whoever comes in doesn't change the offense much or run Denard out of town.
I keep hearing about the supposed lack of talent. I disagree. Michigan has never recruited junk players.
I blame poor coaching 100%. We are ranked somewhere around 108 out of 120 FBS teams in total defense, yet our recruiting classes have been pretty good.
So I cannot explain away our train wreck of a defense because of a lack of talent.
No. His You Raise Me Up banquet moment was his last maneuver. After that he had to win the bowl game to have a chance. He failed miserably.
This has worked in the past. All RichRod has to do is get DB to go to a brothel and drug him. Then he can kill a prostitute and place her in the bed with DB. A few photographs of a bloody DB and a little blackmail and viola, he keeps his job and can even keep whichever assistants he wants.