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Can this Penn State mess get any more bizarre?

Joe Amendola is the lawyer who represents Jerry Sandusky, and apparently has a "colorful" background regarding his personal life:

Amendola in 1996 represented an age 16 teenager by the name of Mary Iavasile in her emancipation petition (to be legally freed from her parents' control) in Centre County on Sept. 3, 1996, filed weeks before her 17th birthday.  Amendola was almost 50.  He got her pregnant about that same time.  The teen gave birth 9 months later.  Amendola is the father.  They married in 2003, had another child, and are now divorced.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sandusky_lawyer_impregnated_teenage_7jKwQMCeBlm9RSdr9zeutK
 
 

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:46 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:5 Normal)
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[Insert lawyer joke here]

Despite what the other guy calls himself, my name actually is Magnus.

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:46 PM | Is there a statue of (Score:0 Trolling)
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Is there a statue of limitations on statutory rape?

Quick! To the Hindenpeter!

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:48 PM | Age of consent in PA is 16. (Score:5 Normal)
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Age of consent in PA is 16. Also, "statute".

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:01 PM | Well, maybe (Score:5 Normal)
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"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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November 15th, 2011 at 4:44 PM | That's from the trick-play section of the Penn St. playbook. (Score:3 Insightful)
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It's what they call their end around off a fake pass.

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November 15th, 2011 at 5:39 PM | I thought it looked more like this... (Score:2 Normal)
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November 15th, 2011 at 2:04 PM | Wow spelling fail on my part. (Score:2 Normal)
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Wow spelling fail on my part. Also I did not know that the age was that in PA. My mistake.

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:05 PM | It's the last sentence in the (Score:2 Normal)
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It's the last sentence in the article.

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:09 PM | Don't quote me on this (Score:2 Normal)
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but that's the legal age of consent in Michigan too. It's only 18 if you're in a position of power.

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:32 PM | better watch that age of consent (Score:3 Interesting)
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You also can't be older than a certain age in most states to take advantage of 16 year old consenter.  i.e., a 16 yr old can't give consent to someone older than 25 or so in most states.  I am told.  This is not the voice of experience talking. I have no reason to know this stuff personally.  Really.

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November 15th, 2011 at 3:30 PM | Well (Score:5 Normal)
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okay, Hillbilly...

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:47 PM | like, say, the lawyer (Score:1)
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like, say, the lawyer representing the would-be consenter in an emancipation suit?

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

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November 15th, 2011 at 4:39 PM | Where (Score:1)
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can I get one of those positions?

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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November 15th, 2011 at 3:42 PM | Stunning that it is 16... (Score:1)
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Stunning that it is 16... Should be 18 minimum, but I guess they make it 16 since otherwise every high school kid would default break that law.

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November 15th, 2011 at 6:48 PM | 16 is the most (Score:2 Normal)
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16 is the most common.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#State_laws

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November 15th, 2011 at 5:22 PM | Just ask (Score:2)
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Just ask Cosmo Kramer.

"I give credit to God, first and foremost" - Denard Robinson #16

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:46 PM | As someone mentioned a few (Score:1)
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As someone mentioned a few days ago..."You couldn't make this stuff up."

"And if that doesn't wet your appetite, you're watching the wrong channel."

You can usually find me bumping some Reggae, hammered on Higgins Lake with the goon squad. #HALOL

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:47 PM | (Score:1)
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He should have lost his license. Him and Sandusky are perfect for each other.

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November 15th, 2011 at 5:04 PM | Why should he have lost his (Score:1 Normal)
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Why should he have lost his license? He was engaging in a legal activity......

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November 15th, 2011 at 7:48 PM | Depends. The current Model (Score:3 Normal)
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Depends. The current Model Rules of Professional Conduct prohibit sexual activity between attorney and client unless said sexual contact began prior to the attorney-client relationship. However, the current Model Rules weren't in place in 1996, and I also don't know if Pennsylvania has adopted them (although I imagine they have; most states have).  

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:54 PM | Sandusky is planning ahead (Score:4 Normal)
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Sandusky is planning ahead for his "Ineffective Assistance of Counsel Claim".  

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:55 PM | That is... (Score:4 Normal)
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ill-advised. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:55 PM | Apparently (Score:2)
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Yes.

I've become one of Pavlov's dogs; it's gotten to the point that I see anything about this mess and my stomach start's churning. Projectile vomiting is right around the corner...

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:27 PM | And let us not forget the missing (Score:1)
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district attorney. Methinks that there are many, many layers to this story, one of the reasons that I'm waiting for what facts there are to surface before making up my mind.

Oops, in the interest of openness and transparency, I should add that *they* say there is no connection between the two cases. Every community is missing a DA, right?

 See Also, "Coincidence, believe in, not"

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November 15th, 2011 at 3:11 PM | Very odd (Score:1)
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But keep in mind that the DA likely had dozens, if not hundreds, of criminal cases. Could just have easily been a gang related disappearance, or whatever.

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November 15th, 2011 at 3:46 PM | His deliberate destruction of (Score:3 Normal)
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His deliberate destruction of his hard drive before disappearing might shed some light on which of those hundreds of cases might be connected. A gang-related disappearance doesn't quite fit.

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November 15th, 2011 at 5:23 PM | The hard drive doesn't fit in with suicide, either (Score:1)
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If you're going to jump off a bridge, do you really care whether or not your hard drive is destroyed? While I can imagine scenarios where this is true, none of them are very likely.

Where's Charlie Bauman when you need him?

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November 15th, 2011 at 5:23 PM | It's (Score:1)
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It's the Mafia! Everything is because of the Mafia. Joe Pa is a made man. They look out for him.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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November 15th, 2011 at 10:27 PM | The Dead DA had nothing to do with this story! (Score:2 Normal)
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For the 10,000th time, he was investigating meth trafficking.  I know state police involved in this and that is the "unofficial" thinking.

 

 

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November 15th, 2011 at 10:56 PM | If you've mentioned this 10,000 times... (Score:2)
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...maybe you've addressed it somewhere on another thread, but it isn't clear to me what you mean. Are you saying they think the meth traffickers had him killed?

What's the unofficial explanation for the destruction of the hard drive?

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November 16th, 2011 at 10:12 PM | Yes (Score:2 Normal)
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Meth manufacturing is big in the center part of the state.  Very rural, so they can cook in a barn and not have as much chance of getting caught.  

Rt 80 gives access to NYC about 2-1/2 hours to east and Rt15 which is close byis a major N-S corridor that leads to DC and I-95.

The hard drive is where they think important information was kept.

Personally, I think he was being blackmailed and was there to trade the PC for something (he has kids) and after the HD was destroyed he was "disappeared", but that's just my theory.  I do have some nice pictures of that park since that's where my wedding party shots were done.

 

 

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:55 PM | These creeps all run in the (Score:2 Informative)
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These creeps all run in the same circles.

 

Also, Sandusky's house is adjacent to an elementary school and he supposedly could watch recess from his back deck. 

Athens, GA

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November 15th, 2011 at 1:56 PM | Gives a whole new meaning to (Score:5 Normal)
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Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "my lawyer F----D me." 

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:00 PM | Rumor is (Score:5 Normal)
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he didn't have sex with her.  They were just in the shower together, snapping towels and engaging in other various horseplay and by some mysterious phenomenon, she got pregnant.

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:01 PM | "Can this Penn State mess get (Score:3 Normal)
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"Can this Penn State mess get any more bizarre?"

The answer is yes. Everytime it doesn't seem like it can, it does. At this rate, I'm sure there are plenty more bizarre details to come.

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:04 PM | Sandusky (Score:2)
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Not worthy of its own thread, but did anyone listen to the interview that he gave last night? 

I have to say that it really made my stomach turn to hear this guy even speak.  The guy ADMITS to having showered with many young boys.  He then admits to having "horsed around" in the shower with these kids, which included "touching their legs."  He openly admits this during an interview. 

As a lawyer, I respect our legal system and the presumption against guilt until guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, but the fact that this guy is walking the street (and has been for the past 12-15 years thanks to the PSU administration and coaching staff) sickens me.  That interview was just repulsive.

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:16 PM | Yeah, what an odd and surreal (Score:3 Informative)
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Yeah, what an odd and surreal interview.  How about when he does the classic 'repeat the question  you were just asked' thing when Costas flat out asks, "are you sexually attracted to young boys?" and then he hesitates for an awkward amount of time, professing how much he likes to be around them and winds his way to ultimately saying "no, i'm not".  It felt like he was on the verge of just laying it out there, telling us that he is and then having a serious breakdown.  I think his, "...I wish I were dead" comment to the Mom of the '98 accuser is quite telling.  I feel like he wanted to just admit to everything and there is a side to him that hates the other side that not only did these things, but a side that seemingly was helpless against it's urges. 

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November 15th, 2011 at 4:56 PM | Costas does a nice job asking (Score:2)
mgowin
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Costas does a nice job asking some real questions. Probably one of the few old school sports reporters left.

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:22 PM | Question: (Score:5 Normal)
Engin77
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Was Sandusky paid by NBC for last night's phone interview? If so, add NBC to the list of people and institutions which have shown bad judgment in this mess.

Taking it one week at a time

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November 15th, 2011 at 6:31 PM | If there was any shred of doubt in your mind whether (Score:1)
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Sandusky is guilty, watching that interview put things to rest - YES, he is.  He sounded creepy and had no energy in his voice in his own defense.  And his admission that he took showers with young boys, "horsed around with them", and touched them on the leg is simply abnormal for anyone his age.  It wouldn't take anyone with 1/4 of a brain to believe now he is very, very capable of committing far worse acts - even if you never heard about any of the other incidents with eye-witnesses. 

All the lawyers I've heard who saw the interview believe it was a HUGE mistake for him to do the interview. If I was his lawyer (and thank goodness I'm not) I'd have told him to find another lawyer if he persisted in going ont he air with NBC. If he thought he had nothing to lose, he was wrong. 

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:07 PM | There's a Courtney Stodden (Score:1)
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There's a Courtney Stodden joke to be made here, but I'm too lazy.

"Here we are at Ohio Stadium, in front of 10,000 alumni and 74,000 truck drivers." - Bob Ufer

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:38 PM | no (Score:1)
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she's not actually 16 or whatever age they're claiming now. 

http://ttifi.blogspot.com/ for interesting vids

http://ttifiblog.tumblr.com/ for interesting pics

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:46 PM | What do you mean? (Score:1)
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What do you mean?

"Here we are at Ohio Stadium, in front of 10,000 alumni and 74,000 truck drivers." - Bob Ufer

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:07 PM | The DA was the victim of an (Score:0 Overrated)
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The DA was the victim of an alien abduction.  Sandusky is actually an undercover agent for the International Justice League for the Wellbeing of Children and his cover was as a college football coach/child predator who lived near the Elementary School that was under his protection.  It is amazing how the media has ignored these facts just to make a story.

As a side note, parents of children who are victimized by adults in any fashion, should get to choose and execute the punishment.  I think a few hours in a sound proof wood shop if the present accusations are true would be fair.

Reality is an illusion created by an unsafe drop in blood alcohol levels that exposes one to the idiocy of others.

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:17 PM | Hmm. Missing DA, therefore (Score:2)
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Hmm. Missing DA, therefore aliens? I don't think it's out of the question.

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November 15th, 2011 at 3:12 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:3 Insightful)
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Aliens are the answer to every unsolved mystery on the history channel. Let's not discount the plausibility.

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:14 PM | I'm waiting (Score:2)
Engin77
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for the city of Sandusky, MI to announce a name change.

Taking it one week at a time

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:15 PM | How does he still have his license? (Score:1)
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If I recall my professional responsibility class correctly, lawyers can't sleep with their clients unless the affair began before the lawyer was hired.   Sexual misconduct and financial misconduct were like the only two things guaranteed to result in discipline. 

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November 15th, 2011 at 2:38 PM | Depends on the State (Score:2)
ChiBlueBoy
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I'm not sure of the rules in Penn.

"Mattison must break you. Jake Ryan is his tool."

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November 15th, 2011 at 4:08 PM | This is now the law in Pennsylvania... (Score:3 Interesting)
Yeoman
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..but it doesn't appear to have been the law at the time. The provision was added by amendment in 2000.

http://www.padisciplinaryboard.org/documents/Ethics2000-Approved-Rule.pdf

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