Calling MGoStudents: Stop messing up The Wave

Submitted by MGoBender on

Yesterday, the student section tried to start the wave during the third quarter when we were up 14 points with plenty of time left in the third quarter.

Notre Dame had the ball.  While some students half heartedly attempted the wave, ND scored to cut the lead to 7.   At the time I thought "ok, some freshmen or sophomores got down low and didn't know better."  Embarassing, but at least the rest of the students knew to focus on the game and get loud for the defense.

Then the unthinkable happened.  Immediately after the score, the student section kept trying to start a wave.  We were up just 7 against a rival in the third quarter.  This time, the entire section was participating in the act of sacriledge.  Of course, the recent alums and non-students were having none of it.

Now, I'm not a crotchedy old alum, rather I'm a mid-20's, always yelling, "up in back" recent alum.  I love the Michigan Stadium version of the Wave.  There's none better.  However, even though it is great and amazing, it's true beauty is a result of doing it properly and at the correct time.  Doing it incorrectly and at improper times will lead to a substandard wave.  This is serious business.  During the RichRod years, blowouts were few and far in between and the Wave's standards dipped.  Now that we are basking in the glory that is the Hoke era, let's bring the Wave's standard's back to where they belong.

Here's your MGoPSA.  Wave Guidelines:

  1. The wave is only to start late in the third quarter or in the fourth quarter.
  2. The game must be "in hand."  This means that even with a miracle, the outcome is not in doubt and we are the team that will be coming out on top.  A safe number for this is a 21-point lead.  However, depending on the amount of time left, this could be as low as a 17-point lead.
  3. ONLY when requirements (1) and (2) are met is it acceptable to start the Wave.
  4. The Wave's order is as follows:
  • Regular speed
  • Regular speed (second round of regular speed recommended if first cycle was weak)
  • Slow wave
  • Fast wave
  • Reverse wave
  • Split wave
  • Split wave until it dies

Thus concludes your MGoPSA.  Let the debate commence (though, I think I have everything correct).

GoBlueOval

September 8th, 2013 at 11:31 PM ^

I am both a recent alum and a student (back for my MBA after a few years out). I ended up row 10 in the end zone. There were plenty of people yelling at the frat boys in front to not do the wave. 

Unfortunately, everyone reading this post is probably well aware of wave protocol. Hopefully the message gets out. 

 

Chuck Norris

September 8th, 2013 at 11:48 PM ^

As a student section usher, I can say with absolute certainty that no, not everyone got there on time. The problem with having such huge crowds (15,000+ in this instance), is that, since the stadium only seats 109,901, there's almost 6,000 students without a seat. The 1st half was hell for the ushers trying to get everyone in, especially in the sections bordering the pissed-off-that-they-can't-get-to-their-seat alumni. We had students showing up halfway through the 1st quarter, thinking it was absurd that there wasn't any room for them. 

Bando Calrissian

September 9th, 2013 at 1:03 AM ^

I'm doing the math in my head, and your post makes no sense. Also keep in mind the final attendance figures count just about everyone in the stadium. The ND band alone accounts for a huge chunk of the over-capacity amount. Press, concession works, ushers, etc. all count, if you believe that final number is anything other than a nice number they pull out of a hat. So are you saying Athletics oversold the student section, or that the ushers did a shitty job putting one person on every seating spot, or what? Because there are not 6000 more students than seats.

Chuck Norris

September 9th, 2013 at 10:18 AM ^

Athletics oversells the student section. There's no upper limit to how many students are allowed to buy tickets. The university knows that not every student with tickets will go to the game, and that not every student who's not going will be able to sell their tickets. As such, they oversell, assuming that the numbers will approximately work out. This is, frankly, a good business practice, but it makes big games hell for the ushers. Now, I know that not every extra person past 109,901 was a student. The event team has about 300 members, ND's band had about 250, and there are probably 300 or so people working concessions, etc. However, in my section, there were easily over 500 students without seats who were either standing in the aisle, fitting into the rows behind other students or trying to sneak into the seats that are supposed to remain unoccupied so that the people in wheelchairs could see. This week, we implemented a system to ensure that every seat had a person in it (if you were at the game and got there early enough, you saw us with ropes, handing out row tickets, counting out 25 people to a row, etc.). That system worked well. There were just too many god damn people.

MMB95

September 9th, 2013 at 7:45 AM ^

Since you're an usher, do you think there's any way we could get an event staffer up at the top of section 34?  Throughout the entire game we had a stream of students trying to sit in our season ticket holder seats because they thought their GA meant they could sit anywhere in section 34.  A fight almost broke out at one point and it was really bad.

As for the wave, it has become lame in the past few years.  Truly a shadow of what it once was.  Either the students need to learn how to do it right (and when it's the right time!) or it needs to end.

Chuck Norris

September 9th, 2013 at 10:23 AM ^

That's actually my section. We're all over the place, at the top, in the aisle, etc. We tey to keep things in control, and we do tell all the students exactly where they should sit, but they don't always listen. If you have any issues, grab the closest usher in one of the aisles (we're the ones with blue "event team" polos). We'll try to straighten it out, and if that doesn't work, we'll grab a response team member (they're the ones in the maize event team polos), since "responding to escalating situations" is part of their job description. Or, if one of the response team is closer, you could skip the middleman and just grab him/her.

Chuck Norris

September 9th, 2013 at 4:50 PM ^

There are supposed to be 3 ushers in the aisleway to "maintain a presence," or something like that. There's also a response team member (maize polo) at the top and bottem. The administration is worried about the students and the normal fans clashing I guess, I don't know. When I was down there (we do shifts), I tried to turn sideways and keep in between the hand rails so I wouldn't get in anyone's way.

aiglick

September 8th, 2013 at 11:57 PM ^

I thought the wave at the CMU game was performed well. Agreed that the situation during the ND game didn't warrant it but thought even if we're playing rivals if we are up by a sufficient amount doing the wave is acceptable. Not the worst thing in the world and I've been very impressed seeing the student section so active during the games.

uminks

September 9th, 2013 at 12:46 AM ^

We had that era! Time for the old farts to get loud. When I was in the student section during the early to mid 80s the stadium seemed so quiet. Many of the old alums just wanted to sit on their hands.

Sopwith

September 9th, 2013 at 12:47 AM ^

and it appeared the one student section closest to the back of the endzone kept trying to send the wave the wrong way right from the start-- so there would end up being two "ripples" in both directions until the real one finally got rolling.  Chalk it up to inexperience, maybe.

yes, yes, first world problems, I know.

M-Wolverine

September 9th, 2013 at 12:52 AM ^

Back when there was a little creativity they used to start multiple waves, in one direction, then multiple split. If you got that far your opponent REALLY sucked.

MGoBender

September 9th, 2013 at 2:09 PM ^

I don't think anyone is saying students are awful.

Hell, I still sit in the student section from time to time and still get hammered playing beer pong on campus and stumble to Rick's.

But the Wave has sucked over the last 3-4 years (one of which I was still a student) and I think the students would love to be a part of a wave that is done correctly, b/c it is a pretty awesome sight for those that have never experienced it.

MLDWoody

September 9th, 2013 at 2:19 AM ^

Blame GA and blame freshman and sophomores getting up front.

 

I didn't participate at all in the wave on Saturday. Other upperclassmen around me didn't either. It wasn't "the whole student section".

 

GA looks great to alumni and other people on the outside, but it is a mess to the students and completely unfair to seniors.

snarling wolverine

September 9th, 2013 at 6:32 AM ^

Not to sound like a jerk, but I can't feel too much sympathy for you guys.  For one thing, most student sections around the country are GA now, in some form or another.  And you guys were urged over and over last year to get there on time and didn't do it.  It was pretty embarrassing that, even after Denard himself recorded a video message urging the students to come for his senior day, the section was half-empty for the pregame ceremony.  

I don't think it's fair to the football team to have its peers in the student section not show up by kickoff.

 

Mabel Pines

September 9th, 2013 at 8:05 AM ^

Sorry, seniors, but there are no rules that you can't wait in line.  I get that you feel that you don't have to, and change stinks, but oh well.  I guess I don't get the whole first row thing.  You must get something cool for sitting down close.  I never minded being in row 50 or wherever I sat.  (We had actual tickets, but you just sat wherever in your section back in my day)    Also, complaining about the wave:  definition of FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS!  I love how good we have it!!  Think of Michigan State's problems:  They cannot debate the wave, as they are still looking for a QB...  Be happy with what you have!

MGoBender

September 9th, 2013 at 4:57 PM ^

Really?  I don't think I ever say in my reserved seats.  Save a couple (2-3) late comers making me move, I pretty much always sat wherever I wanted.  If you had "crappy" seats, you should have just moved.

I understand some people are upset over it, but I also understand that I was a pro-GA student even as a student, so I'm biased. I  guess both sides of the coin and all that.

FieldingBLUE

September 9th, 2013 at 6:28 AM ^

We late 90s students did Fast first then Slow...the rest the same. Last few tears the Wace rarely gets past slow because it takes too long and people lose I retest. Plus slow looks much cooler after the fast lap.

Or am I remembering it wrong?

FieldingBLUE

September 9th, 2013 at 8:43 AM ^

I always thought Fast then Slow was more visually striking. We would chant "Slow It Down" as it was flying around. Imho, the Slow takes so long that the Wave tends to die out on its third trip around, robbing it of its ability to get to Fast or even Reverse and definitely not Split. I can't remember the last time I saw it split and make it all the way back. Probably will happen Saturday.

Apparently in a quick turnaround around my final season (99) and your first (00), it switched to what I saw against CMU last week. Strangely, a couple years ago, it reverted to Fast first then Slow for half a year.  

Any other 80s or 90s students remember the same as me? Or have I put myself under delusion?

umich1

September 9th, 2013 at 7:19 AM ^

How about chanting YOU SUCK right as Norfleet was fielding the punt? Anybody who thinks that wasn't a factor in him dropping the ball? The morons who did that could have cost us the game, had we not recovered the football.

mvp

September 9th, 2013 at 8:05 AM ^

At the Outback Bowl, there was an idiot trying to get the wave going, again (and again and AGAIN) despite us being down in the game.  At one point, Lewan was hurt on the field and this joker was trying another round of the wave.

Even my 8 year old son yelled, "Don't you know you don't do the wave when we're losing?" 

MGoManBall

September 9th, 2013 at 8:38 AM ^

So, uh... We beat up on Notre Dame this past weekend and we're talking about the wave and when its appropriate?

Can't we talk about things that make me happy on a Monday like Morgan's hit on a lineman that popped his helmet off, Taylor's big stop on that screen pass on third and short, or Chesson's "Destroyer of Men" blocks?

/grumblegrumblegrumble

Soulfire21

September 9th, 2013 at 9:39 AM ^

The reason that the wave was started was because we were up by 14 with the ball back and a chance to go up by 17 or 21 over Notre Dame.  That's wave-worthy. 

Now, it looks stupid in hindsight because of ... the incident, but I don't think it was as outrageous as you make it seem given the time they wanted to start the wave.  Potentially going up 3 scores on a rival late(ish) in the game is wave-worthy IMO.

You're probably talking to the wrong crowd here though, those of us who spend appreciable time on MGoBlog likely know the field conditions necessary for a wave. 

I concede that it was borderline, and obviously looks flat out stupid given what eventually transpired on the field.  But I can guarantee if the students knew Gardner was going to throw that INT for a ND TD they wouldn't have been trying to start the wave.

jmblue

September 9th, 2013 at 11:16 AM ^

No, it was not Wave-worthy.  If you are defining Wave-worthy as "ahead by 2 scores" regardless of context, that's part of the problem.  The biggest thing to remember is that the Wave is something you do when the game is starting to get a little boring because we're dominating.  I don't think any of us would say that Saturday's game ever got boring.  

Anyway, given the way ND moved the ball on us all day and shut down our tailback-based running game most of the game (forcing our still-inexperienced QB to make plays himself), I never felt totally secure at any point. 

Soulfire21

September 9th, 2013 at 12:45 PM ^

If you are defining Wave-worthy as "ahead by 2 scores" regardless of context, that's part of the problem

I wasn't, I actually had to draw the context:  team just got the ball with the opportunity to go up 3 scores on your rival.

While I never felt like the game was totally in hand, we actually dominated Notre Dame fairly handily from start to finish.  We were Gardner's 1 INT away from potentially being up 41-23.  That's pretty impressive.

The point I was trying to make overall was that of course it seems like a terrible idea in hindsight but in the moment I don't think it was that bad.

Willy Wonka

September 9th, 2013 at 11:35 AM ^

And still do. If it is going to be organized it needs to be done during a specific time of the game, such as the beginning of the 2nd quarter.

Nothing was more annoying than some dolt screaming for the wave to start up as we were marching down the field during a critical drive.

People should be paying attention to what is happening on the field, not what people six sections over are doing.

DenverRob

September 9th, 2013 at 2:38 PM ^

The wave should only be done if Michigan is up by 64536373736 points and the game is over so real fans don't have to watch you idiots stand up while the greatest team in CFB history is on the field.