A call for calm

Submitted by michgoblue on

I have seen a ton of panic and negativity on this board since Saturday, but I think that if everyone can take a step back, there is a larger picture that explans so much of our struggles this season, and which and might provide a ray of hope.  

It is fairly common after a coaching change for a coach to take a step back in year 3 because the exiting coach almost always recruited poorly during his last year or so (by virtue of being on the hot seat).  As a result, while a new coach often comes into a situation in which he has talented upper classmen on the roster, by year 3, most of those players are gone and there is a gaping hole where the senior and junior talen should be.  

That is precisely what we are going through right now.  For Harbaugh's first two seasons, he was able to somewhat benefit from the upperclassmen that were on the roster from Hoke's first few successful recruiting classes.  Those guys are gone, and in their place, our upperclassmen are made up of Hoke's much weaker last two classes.  Those classes were followed by the disaster of a transition class that resulted from Michigan hiring Harbaugh almost on the eve of National Signing Day.  

Harbaugh is not the first coach to experience initial success, followed by a tough 3rd year.  The same thing happened to Hoke based upon RR's last few classes.  While that may not be comforting, perhaps the following few examples will make everyone feel better:

Dabo Swinney - went 6-7 in his 3rd year, following a 9-5 2nd year.  From year 4 forward, he hasn't won less than 10 games.

Urban Meyer (Florida edition) - following a 13 win national championship season in 2006, the program took a step back in 2007 and only won 9 games.  That 3rd season was an outlier as it was followed by consecutive 13-win seasons in years 4 and 5.

Nick Saban (LSU edition) - followed a 10-win second season with an 8-5 3rd season, only to win 13 games (and a national championship) in year 4.

Nick Saban (Bama edition) - Hist first two full seaons were 12 and 14 wins (with a National Championship in year 2).  In year 3, he took a relative step back to 10 wins, only to follow that with 12 and 13 win season (and 2 more national championships).

Mark Dantonio - after taking MSU to a 9 win second season (which, historically, is a great season for them), Mork went 6-7 in year 3, only to rebound to an 11-2 conference title season in year 4.

A few observations:

1.  Each of those guys is a massive douchebag.  Not necessarily relevant, but it jumps off the page.

2.  Harbaugh may not recover as quickkly in year 4 as these guys because his transition class was really small and weak (not on him), and moreover, his first few classes really whiffed on OL).  

3.  Look at some of the young players on our roster.  Aside from OL, which we need to fix ASAP (and which should resolve itself as our young line matures over the next 2 years), we are STOCKED with young talent.  Unfortunately, this season, that talent is playing against older, stronger, more experienced players who are more fundamentally sound just from being older, stronger and more experienced.  As these guys get older, stronger and more experienced, I think that the sky is the limit for our team.

tl;dr version - everyone chill out; we are really young; coaches struggle in year 3, even great coaches.  history is a guide, will be rebound nicely over the next year or so.

UMxWolverines

October 10th, 2017 at 10:31 PM ^

No, firing Harbaugh is ridiculous. But it's also ridiculous that our offense resembles the 2014 Hoke offense. There is no rational reason we should look this lost. Either we better make a huge Penn State level turn around the rest of the year or scrap everything this off-season. Because we're playing sludgefart again.

uncleFred

October 11th, 2017 at 3:36 PM ^

Rich Rod's treatment after two back to back ten win seasons is a perfect parallel. Oh wait... What is twilight zone about all this is that the fan base is reacting as if being 4-1 in Harbaugh's third season after two consecutive ten win seasons is anything like the seven years that precedes his time as head coach here. 

Don't misunderstand me, I agree that the future of this season is not as bright as last year. Looking at the youth on this team preseason, I felt eight or nine wins was not unlikely and that was with Speight. At this point it could easily turn out much worse. Or not. Despite challenges, both expected and unexpected, there remains a lot of football to be played and all you buttercups need to suck it up.  

war-dawg69

October 10th, 2017 at 7:59 PM ^

First off who the fuck is laughing at a 4-1 team. That is just stupid. Also saying anyone is above Harbaugh is also stupid and with zero thought. Harbaugh won several nfc championships and coached a team to the super bowl. One play away from the title. I don't see that on any of these guys resume's.

Saban has a lot of built in advantages, some not legal. He was an absolute joke in the pro's. Let's compare professional records. Ohhh you left that out. Isn't the professional ranks the pinnicle of coaching?. Lacks hardware?. NFC championship is higher than anything these other guys have. Other than Saban these other coaches chose not to try there luck in the NFL.

There are two reason's: One is they are not coveted. The other is they do not have the balls and like the advantage of recruiting. They would be found out with the parody of the league just like Saban was. Meyer and Swiney especially. Until Meyer steps up to where the big boys play he is the one who is not on Harbaugh's level. You could not have this more backwards. Why don't you just put Meyer ahead of Bellichek also.

With your reasoning a great high school coach with a great record is above all of these coaches. Apples to Oranges my man. Head to head Harbaugh's pro record crushes most. Bellichek is a great coach, not college level coaches with built in advantages except in your world.

BursleyBaitsBus

October 10th, 2017 at 8:31 PM ^

Take off the maize n blue sunglasses. 

Half our issues on offense this year are due to Harbaugh's "NFL pedigree" b/c the kids can't learn half the playbook fast enough to run anything well out on the field. 

The college game is not the NFL game, and in college Harbaugh has peers that are a degree above him in their careers and accomplishments. 

He's not infallible, but he's perfect for our program. 

 

What is offensive about saying others can equal or out-perform him so far in his career in college? Nothing because it's objectively true when looking at resumes. 

BeatOSU52

October 10th, 2017 at 11:10 PM ^

he won one .  And it's tiresome how we think Michigan should have bragging rights because our coach had success in the NFL.  You think while Alabama is holding up championship tropies (SEC, BCS, Playoff NC's, ect)  that the players and fans are  thinking "Wow, this is great, but it still stings  that our coach wasn't a success in the NFL a decade ago." 

UMxWolverines

October 10th, 2017 at 11:19 PM ^

Good Lord, this is the epitome of a stereotypical Michigan fan "Harbaugh is the greatest" post. Bro, we have another coach in this conference that has coached an NFL team to a Superbowl in Lovie Smith. So you're now saying Lovie Smith is a better coach than Saban or Meyer because he "won at the highest level of football"? I think Harbaugh is a much better coach than Lovie Smith, but he is absolutely not on the level of Saban or Meyer just because he won in the NFL. That's asinine.

Khaleke The Freak

October 10th, 2017 at 10:40 PM ^

in Meyer, Saban, Dabo, wonder why? It's because there is no recruiting in the NFL and when it comes down to coaching the talent you have those three guys can't do shit without a stacked deck (thanks to "boosters")

WestSider

October 11th, 2017 at 12:56 PM ^

antics off the football field." What a load of bullshit that is. You sound like a foe. If antics are enjoying life fully while always supporting his student athletes, then yeah. Otherwise, you are just regurgitating a stupid meme that Harbaugh haters love to inject into the stream to pollute it.

sum1valiant

October 10th, 2017 at 7:57 PM ^

Two things: 1) You're a douchebag, and prove it in just about every thread. 2) I actually found this pretty insightful, as its based in fact, rather than emotion (like every third post the last few days).

markusr2007

October 10th, 2017 at 5:49 PM ^

Bushell-Beatty, sadly, is not a marked improvement over Ulizio, but he's taller and heavier.

Harbaugh and staff can alleviate the RT and RG weaknesses by adding a TE to block and leaving in a FB like Mason or Poggi to block, and running more to the left side, plus using screens and draws.

My prediction though is that Harbaugh's mentality is very much a Bo mentality, that says, rightly or wrongly, "No, I'm going to run off tackle and shove this hot tamale down your throats regardless. Come and get some."   I'm confident that the RT Ulizio situation is getting a lot of attention in practice.

Repetition, repetition, and repetition.  I would not be surprised if Ulizio ends up 6-5, 315 lbs next year and one Michigan's finest tackles.

BoCanHam15

October 10th, 2017 at 6:14 PM ^

Have all the answers, always! You are FOS. I tell you what. Go tell our AD, that Harbaugh is unqualified for this job and that you're available. Instant Championships. Harbaugh has forgotten more about football then you'll ever know! Blowhard cause you're drunken writings are not humorous.