Rumors out of Provo...has anyone heard anything about this?
Rumors out of Provo...has anyone heard anything about this?
I don't know that I like this game. BYU is that dangerous team that gains you little by beating it, but is huge if you lose.
Unless we're talking revenge for their National Championship game victory over one of our worst teams in the last 40 years...
"BYU is that dangerous team that gains you little by beating it, but is huge if you lose."
If we're going to schedule a team that is a non-cupcake, and actually a legitimate challenge, we should make it a sexier opponent.
how do we not gain anything from beating a team that is perennially in the top 25? We play cupcakes and people complain. We play good teams like Uconn and maybe BYU and we don't gain enough. If we play a team like Alabama or Texas, people complain that we can't beat them. Lets just be happy its not BGSU or App st
I, for one, LOVED the BGSU game.
While its not as sexy a matchup as Alabama or some other s
SEC team, BYU is far from a Macake. Wed get some love for playing them.
What's not sexy about BYU? I'd tap that.
Not only are ther plenty of sexies running around Provo, most of the dudes out there don't even appreciate them. The proof is in the link.
All they want is for someone to tell them they look nice in their new seimwear. Any takers?
Dude, that was the weirdest link to date. I can't believe I sat and read the comments. Conservative Mormons (redundant?) blow my mind with the way they think. I'd like to read their opinion on other pressing matters.
it was eye opening to say the least. One of the biggest shocks was the role (or lack there of) that women play in their society. To sum it up - shut up, go sit over there and pump out some babies.
I like the random guy in the middle who writes "pics or didn't happen".
That was my fav part as well. I was going to reply directly to the link, but you beat me to it (by about 45 minutes).
Any team not in the top 6 conferences is that way. If we beat them, great, if we lose- shoot yourself in the head.
Personally, I think that's a horrible idea. No good can come of it, at least none that I can put my finger on. Why play BYU as an out of conference with a home-and-home when that same type of arrangement could draw many more interesting matchups with west coast teams? Along those lines, I'd love to see a Michigan-Cal matchup. Two of the most liberal institutions butting heads on the gridiron.
Yeah! Cause we do awesome with those types of games!
How is BYU any different from Cal other than BYU being a better team the last 2-3 years?
Why is Cal more interesting than BYU? I, for one, am intrigued by BYU, both as the world's foremost Mormon university and as a good football team that plays a weak schedule. Plus they have Samoans!
I love samoas! Best cookies ever! Sign me up!!!
Seriously? Pac-10 vs Mountain West/Indy. San Francisco(okay Berkeley) vs Provo. California vs Utah. I vote no to BYU.
I agree, unless we played BYU very late in the season. Which would never happen, but a trip where you could combine M football and Wasatch powder would be pretty damn sweet.
Non-alum here.... Re. this:
"I'd love to see a Michigan-Cal matchup. Two of the most liberal institutions butting heads on the gridiron."
Is U of M actually *that* liberal? I'm not trying to incite political debate here, I'm genuinely curious. I hear U of M and AA characterized as very liberal a lot, but, in my experience, when something is labelled "very ____" relative to politics, it's usually an attempt to marginalize and in reality the place being referred to isn't as extreme as some would wish to characterize it.... So, is UM/AA really any more liberal than any other college/college town?
And its the most liberal place I've been not in Cali or Europe.
I'm not sure, but I definitely think our reputation for political activism is way overblown.
We were a lot more politically active when my parents where here, in the 1960s. Groups like SDS (a student terrorist group) formed here and such. These days people are a lot less active.
The reputation grows from the 60s and the Vietnam anti-war protest. Berkeley, CA and Ann Arbor, MI were the two most active anti-war areas and both because of the universities there. I just think the history behind both schools would make Cal-Michigan an interesting matchup.
Alos see Madison, WI (bombing and all).
To call SDS a political terrorist group in their days based in Ann Arbor is inaccurate. At that point, they were committed to direct action to change society and the economic system, but didn't advocate violence. Ineffective, self-absorbed, having far more genius at self-promotion than in accomplishing political change, sure, but not really student terrorists.
It's not until the late 60s, when splinter groups (mainly Weathermen and some Trotskyist youth organizations) who advocated and used violent tactics, seized control of SDS at one of their national conventions (I want to say 1969), but that was really the last nail in the coffin of a splintering group.
when compared to the definition of conservative by the far right wackos.
Trust me you don't know conservative until you've lived in Texas.
There's a reason I came back to Michigan ASAP.
Texas, as a whole, is obviously conservative but I'll tell you that Austin is right up there with UM and the schools in CA. I don't know about UM but UT has a MASSIVE population of pot smokers such to the point where the police had to change the laws that carrying a certain amount just gets you a traffic ticket (so to speak) because they didn't have enough room in the jails for all the kids getting busted carrying it around. And beyond that it's a huge liberal center politcally speaking and center of a ton of organizations part of the green movement that many consider to be part of the "liberal camp."
"... when something is labelled very ____ relative to politics, it's usually an attempt to marginalize ..."
So true ... Ann Arbor is a large Midwestern town with a decent (and shrinking) population of white-collar professionals and a smattering of LIBRULLS (or, if you want to go talk radio, LLLIBRULLZUH). In no way do the latter overwhelm the town. They certainly give it a flavor that's not found in other towns in that weight class (Madison excepted), but (again) I consider it a pretty tame place. It is much more yuppified/corporatized than it was 25 years ago.
Republicans don't even bother to run in Ann Arbor anymore for office. It's usually Democrat vs. Democrat, or liberal independent. Take that FWIW.
Look closely, though (at actions, rather than campaigns and such), and you'll see some real business done here and there. (I do not mean manufacturing of cars composed of, and run exclusively on, soybeans.)
It's true that Sarah Palin couldn't get many votes in Ann Arbor, but I still think it's far from the left wingy freak show that people picture.
Interesting. What blueheron wrote is about what I expected the "view from the ground" in AA is really like....as opposed to the sensationalized characterizations of it.....war protests and hash bash notwithstanding. =)
Even the Hash Bash is past its prime. Not that many students go to it. It's become an excuse for middle-aged hippies to come in and make a mess.
OSU has something very, very similar called "ChitFest" where it's just a big massive pot smoking, drug-fest mixed with gratutious amounts of alcohol held on Chittenden Ave. I only bring that up because most seem to think UM is much more liberal than OSU so saying you have a pot smoking party once a year doesn't really equal liberal, it just equals large school that, by raw numbers, has to have a certain number of pot smoking hippies (insert Cartman reference here).
I guess I can't give you specifics, just personal experience; i.e., friends, acquaintances, etc. But I would put Madison right up near the top. But maybe you should take that with a grain of salt as I am a self professed conservative.
Edit: On second thought, I probably shouldn't have shared that. Now watch me get negged.
who has lived in Ann Arbor, East Lansing and Madison, I will say that Madison is the most progressive/liberal of the three. Ann Arbor is a liberal college town, but still has many conservatives while East Lansing is just a town full of bad pizza and flat beer.
It's the 5th law of thermo - conservation of hot air. All their fans are full of it so there's none left to put in the beer :)
Why are they protesting the interstate? Is it just a general pushback against the car culture or is there some environmental reason?
a couple of times, and to me it seemed more conservative than any other B10 campus I have been to.
At one point I think Ann Arbor had the highest per capita contribution rate to the Obama campaign in either the nation or state. I'm having trouble finding a link but this is at least some support. I'm sure that's partly a reflection of the relative wealth of the city but certainly a pretty good indicator of its policital tendencies.
If Michigan is going to play anyone on the west coast it should be Oregon St. OSU will play anyone and I live close enough to Corvallis that I could go to the game.
Just a general Twitter question. How do people find these tweets that people provide. Like this one for example, who is Patrick Kinahan and how did you find this obscure tweet by him regarding BYU/UM?
Patrick Kinahan “PK”, is recognized as one of the top sports personalities in Utah. As the beat writer for BYU sports and Utah sports over the last 15 years, no one has developed better insights into the major rivalries in Utah.
He lives somewhere near Salt Lake City, listens to Mr. Kinahan, and subscribed to his tweets. The awesome thing about the Michigan fanbase is it's wide reaching nature. There's no sportscaster from Seattle, Miami, Dallas, or Bismarck that can say something Michigan related without it finding it's way here.