MaizeWays

November 6th, 2013 at 8:14 PM ^

What??? How is that even possible? Lol. So i guess they dont like their chances at the National Championship game in the next 4-5 years, or even getting to a Traditional New Year bowl. Thats gotta suck for recruiting, if not for this agreement, you would atleast be able to sell Hope to these young guys coming in to BYU, with this deal you are basically saying "Yea We plan on being mediocre for the next 4-6 years and going to poinsetta bowls."

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Blue-in-the-Lou

November 6th, 2013 at 9:47 PM ^

These types of deals are common for independent schools, so they know they have something set up, but they will generally have an opt out clause in the event of, say, a BCS invite. It's similar to mid-major conferences that have deals with certain bowls but if they get a BCS invite they can go to that bowl instead.

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SFBlue

November 6th, 2013 at 8:26 PM ^

Poinsettia has an automatic tie-in with Army for 2013, and with the MWC through 2014, so this is how they roll.  I wonder how often the television contract is re-negotiated?  It could be a used as leverage to increase the pay out, and negotiate a more high-profile tie-in.  

On the other side of the ledger, BYU really has to be hating that Utah is in the Pac-12, with its automatic tie-ins and revenue share, and it has to make these types of pre-commitments to secure a bowl spot.  (But then, they do not have to split the payout with a conference.)  In 2011, it went 9-3 with wins at Ole Miss and Oregon State and ended up in the Bell Helicopter Bowl.

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San Diego Mick

November 6th, 2013 at 8:32 PM ^

they should try and team up up with San Diego St. and try to joing the Pac 12 or Big 12 or something like that.

SDSU should be attractive to the Big 12 especially cause then they can get SoCal market for TV and recruiting.

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beat ohio

November 6th, 2013 at 8:47 PM ^

They'll never join the Pac-12; a couple of the Pac-12 schools (Cal comes to mind; I forget the other one) are explicity opposed to religious schools joining their league. Regardless of whether one supports that or opposes it, that's the case there

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goblue16

November 6th, 2013 at 8:45 PM ^

I still don't understand how the PAC-12 picks Utah and Colorado over BYU. I understand the Denver market is huge but BYU should have been offered. They have a bigger fan base then Utah and Colorado and they have as many national championships. Not to mention there success in basketball but also a top academic program. Even from a tv market perspective, they have a large tv market

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SFBlue

November 6th, 2013 at 8:58 PM ^

Utah and Colorado are both better cultural fits.  Pac-12 markets itself as a "progressive" conference, on the cutting edge of science & etc. Berkeley, UCLA, Oregon would probably not be thrilled.  Big 12 is a better fit for BYU, but I am not sure that provides the same economic incentive. 

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Mr Miggle

November 7th, 2013 at 8:59 AM ^

Until recently the NCAA had a rule, known as the BYU rule, prohibiting its championships from being held on Sundays. Any conference adding BYU is going to have to adopt that policy. Not only that, they are put in the position to advocate the NCAA readopt the rule. Adding BYU would be a major pain in the ass for us. The Big Ten holds its championships for nearly every sport but football on Sundays. Why would any major conference ever add them over any reasonable candidate?

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LSAClassOf2000

November 6th, 2013 at 8:48 PM ^

According to a few other stories, BYU was supposed to be in the 2015 Poinsettia Bowl, but that bowl decided it wanted a Mountain West team and Army, assuming Army is eligible that year. The idea supposedly is that they will play a MWC team in both of those years, per Sports Illustrated. 

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