Im friends with BWC on facebook (not one of the creepers i actually know him we played pal football together) anyways alot of players are making a big deal out of BWC work out today he benched 370 which is a personal best for him theyre saying hes working hard in the weight room, hopefully this means more on the field success for BWC.
I'm sure I won't be the first to get this in, but fantastic title, I figured this was about the bench press number he put up today.
That said, glad to hear he's working hard. He's going to be needed in a big way next season.
What should I title my threads?
Please make your thread titles as informative as possible: "Justin Feagin" is bad. "Justin Feagin leaving the team?" is good.
I think I'm going to post a threat that reads "What body part would you cut off to secure a Michigan win against Alabama in next season's opener?" My answer would be my right pinkie above the knuckle.
Which knuckle is the real question.
I should have been more specific. There would just be a stump remaining, so what is that -- the second and third phalange would go if Michigan could beat Bama?
You should go with your index finger instead. I once read an article about a football player who amputated his pinky so he could finish the season, and the writer talked to a finger specialist of some kind who actually said the pinky would be the last finger she'd recommend cutting off. Apparently your strongest gripping muscles are the ones that control the pinky and without it you lose most of your ability to hold on tight to things. She said the index is the most "loseable" finger because the middle finger can do anything the index finger can do.
The pinky and ring finger on my left hand are somewhat messed-up ("messed-up" being a medical term). You probably wouldn't notice it if you were sitting next to me on a plane. I none-the-less have a lot more trouble gripping things with that hand than I did pre-injury.
you lose "The Shocker" capability either way :(
"She said . . . the middle finger can do anything the index finger can do." That is, in fact, "what she said."
i bet he will be benching his body weight soon
Are you trying to imply that the OP and/or BWC suffesr from gynecomastia?
I can't find the gif with GMat worrying about BWC's gynecomastia, but hopefully this will make up for it:
Damn. You are forgiven.
This GIF makes me want to tickle Elmo.
With this picture I want to poke him in the eyes, ...or rather a few pokes between the eyes! 8)
While I love this and think it's funny, this is not the place to be posting this.
I hope so. This guy has all the potential in the world and he knows this is his year to shine and dominate the line of scrimage. Im expecting a big year out BWC.
Am I supposed to instantly recognize who BWC is?
There is only one Bee-Dub-Cee.
Yes, but I'll help you out. It's Big Will Campbell.
I had no idea who the hell that was.
I didn't need to go any further to know that BWC lifted 370 lbs.
At least it is by normal human standards. I'm glad to hear that he's working hard.
For all the people shitting on this thread, I can't believe that I'm the first to mention the lack of punctuation. C'mon kid, the most basic level of grammar is nice.
...exactly as it was dictated to him by Christopher Walken.
It was very poorly written, with an uninformative title which, collectively, draws question to its validity.
What do you mean? There's a period.
EDIT: And a comma!
Title and post not in proper 5 paragraph hamburger format. No clear thesis statement. Grammar is shoddy and your avatar is less than creative.
2/10, would not read again.
The Rutgers thread, however, is clear and much more interesting due to the clarity. I come to MGoBlog to read properly formated statements and opinions, not about "interesting, personal" stories that "may actually be worth discussing".
All that aside, I have really liked what I've seen from Big Will Campbell (BWC for those who don't know) this past season. Yeah, he can get better, and it looks like he's trying. Let's hope for the best for him and the team.
Impressive for 99% of the world, but in the world of 300lb Senior DT's it is a non-event. As evidenced by K. Demens indicating he already does it.
I hate to say it, but, I've seen defensive backs bench this kind of weight at D-II schools before they are juniors.
What you say is fair enough. I take it as good news, though, that BWC is (presumably) working hard. He also has a decent amount of time before the season to improve that number (not that bench press, by itself, is important).
Ondre Pipkins' Scout page lists his max press as 385, so you know, don't expect any Big Will miracles.
I saw Ndamukong Suh say recently on twitter that his bench max was "In my prime, 425 max." So 370 isn't bad.
Also saw a video of Pipkins in the weight room and he got 315 three times.
Not going to lie - thought this was going to be a link to a new site dedicated to Busty White Chicks. Very disappointed to learn it is about bench pressing.
If you look above, there is a GIF of a bouncy Busty White Chick. You're welcome.
Downvoted for uninformative title. Good info, though I'm mostly surprised he wasn't benching that already, especially since his Rivals profile had him benching 395 out of high school.
Maybe Cass Tech's weight program is better than it's overall player development, but that seems like a fictional amount coming right out of high school. Even a big, strong kid is going to have to have been doing some serious lifting to get to that number.
370 is pretty terrible for someone his size and has been in the program as long as he has... Down vote this all you want, but its the truth. If he can get that over 400 by the time the season starts I will be mildly impressed.
If he's just now really tapping into his weight-lifting potential, he could go through a spurt before the season in which he adds quite a bit to his max.
Serious question: are we still using the "bench press max" measurement used during the Barwis era? If so, it's a wholly different lift than the typical bench press, as it involves holding the bar for 2 seconds, one inch above the chest, before beginning the push upward. Benching 370 in that manner would be pretty damn strong.
However, if the measure is simply "touch your chest, get it up, lock out," and he does 370, I have to agree that it isn't something to brag too much about But that being said, I think the bench press is way overrated as a measure for effective football strength. That list, to me, would put lifts such as squat, dead lift, power clean (to name a few) ahead of bench press, as those other lifts are compound in nature, involve the lower back and legs, etc. Bench press is a great upper body lift, but I think I'd be most interested in what the big fella can squat, as he seems to have a high center of gravity and his legs seem a little weak, comparatively. A big problem for guys as heavy as Will is developing enough leg strength to not only play an entire game in a "crouch" sort of position, but developing excess strength in those areas so that the player can explode out of his stance and knock the crap out of the guy across from him, and do so from a position of leverage (i.e., lower to the ground).
A buddy of mine on the team during the Barwis era, a WR, said Barwis didn't have him bench. He would only have them incline, which I thought was interesting, and a more effective motion for the WR's to tailor their strength to for shedding blocks.
If BWC is inclining 370, I'll tip my hat to him. I could be wrong, but I remember him coming into U of M being able to hit 315 for reps, which would show not too much improvement from freshman year to now.
That video of Martin training with Barwis shows him hitting 365 for reps and a 4 second negative.
In conclusion, I hope Campbell gets big enough to shed every block, every down, and pick up at least 3 sacks/game.
id have to agree.. my friend is a gym rat and he only weighs 170, yet he benched 225 10 times the other day.. and his max bench is well over 300.
I would think someone that weighs around 320 should be putting up well over 400
My college coach said that a good college athlete should be able to bench press his body weight 18 times. Anyone ever qualify?
Close. I'm 22, weighed in at 237.5 this morning, and this afternoon at the gym I did 15 reps of 225. So not quite, but close
I was able to get 225 lb 17 times when I weighed 195 last year (maxed at like 345). Then I tore some cartildge in my shoulder so now I stick to 50 lb dumbells. It sucks
do 255 10 times every chest workout when I weighed 188 in college. 275 7 times. So probably could've done my weight 18 times. But frankly I didn't put much stock in doing anything 18 times.
I can relate to your woes. Now I do dumbbells only for shoulder protection, 70's with no injury, and am on the long road back to beasthood.
Your college coach. Was that a college football coach? Because I don't think a lot of players on a football team can do that, and I don't think it necessarily translates for football players.
Marques Colston, WR for the saints, weighed in at 224 pounds and hit 225 twice at the nfl combine on the bench. He seems to be doing alright though...
225x27 and 415x1 at 230 body weight. *flex* Bench, especially as it's performed at the combine, is a retarded test of football prowess. I'd be much more interested in D lineman's squat numbers.
I weigh 188lbs and benched 250 five times a few days ago. My squat has gone down since I did something to my knee a month ago playing hockey. Summer is around the corner and I will be getting in running shape so will shed probably ~15 lbs. Strength is very important for a football player but I think any pro athlete has it all including stength. I remember hearing that Andre Agassi could bech 315lbs at his prime. I weight more then he did, mostly concentrate on lifting and yet Andre a tennis player can bench more then me.
While only playing D3 football, and I am 100% certain that BWC would kick my a** if I lined up across from him. 230lbs - did 225 x 26.
Bench has so little to do with football.I would be interested to see how much he cleans or squats or deadlifts and have everone on here compare to that. Bench is a lot more of a confidence lift than anything else. As long as you can bench enough to 1. add weight to your frame and 2. lock out the guy across from you, you are all set.
Plus, with his long arms who is going to be able to bench him off? As long as he gets his hands on first, it should be a win for him.
*Edit, this was about 4 years ago...So I am now 200% sure he would kick my a**
Two years ago when I was the strongest I have ever been I was able to rep 225 lbs 15 times. I weighed 185 lbs. I could have probably put 185 lbs up 20-30 times depending on the day.
This means that in a hypothetical world in which I could bench myself, BWC could bench me benching myself.
I thought I remember from Three and Out that it was over 500. Not sure though. It's great he's at a PR but hopefully he can continue to make substantial improvement.
Mike Martin's bench is at 505 lbs, and his squat is at 700 lbs.
........needs to be in context. For example, one rep of 370 is impressive, but not overly so. 5 reps of 370, or 370 at the end of a pyramid rep workout is VERY impressive.
My ex-HS wrestling coach used a pyramid workout that started with 10 reps of a weight, 8 reps of a heavier weight and so on down to one rep. At one point during our summer workout sessions he ended up with 505 on the bar for one rep. Just looking at that number is pretty damn impressive. But knowing that he did that after 10 reps of 350, 8 reps of 375, 6 reps of 400, 4 reps of 425, 3 reps of 450, and two reps of 475 is amazing.
So, If BWC put up 370 in any scenario other than a single rep during the workout, the number is quite impressive.
For the record, my old coach did a single workout rep once just because we begged him to and he put up just under 600.
What does that take, like 3 spotters? Insane
1 good one
Wrestlers are freaks. I knew a kid that wrestled 130 lbs and could put up 325. It is just silly.
He was a two-time state champ and made the rest of his weight class look very, very small in comparison.
I was going to say the same thing. My guess is that BWC did something like 370 for 10 reps, which would be really impressive, particularly if it was after a workout. Otherwise, not uber-impressive - I'm about 160 and can bench into the 200's and I go to the gym 3 times a week for about 30 minutes/day.
but im a pudgy 230 lb 33 year old and i can put up 335...so i dont know iif this is a big deal. The guy has already shown what he can do, when he stays low he is unblockable...I'm just happy to hear he is working hard.
Wow that's pretty weak actually for his weight....I figured he'd be around 470 honestly...I definitley wouldn't be bragging about 370 if I only weighted 50 pounds less than that...
so what does trent richardson bench?
ESPN's hype videos said the Bama strength staff wouldn't allow him to max out, but that it was over 500.
Trent Richardson supposedly can bench 475. Mike Martin could bench 505.
Presumably those are legit numbers.
The length of your arms plays a large factor in the amount that you can bench press. BWC seems to have pretty long arms. Richardson and Martin have different builds and shorter arms. So its not really comparing apples to apples.
Great point. I'm amazed nobody else has mentioned this. Bench is much tougher for guys that have long arms.
BWC probably has 35 in arms, where a guy like Richardson is probably around 31. Makes a big difference. All the guys that lift well at the combine also tend to get knocked for having short arms.
I thought this was common knowledge (sense). It plays a huge factor.
Have I read on this blog that he does not like to be called "Big" Will?
If he miraculously earns all Big10 honors, I will forever change my references to him to Mr. Campbell.
Caveat: first team
O. M. G. Where can I find a better version of the video!?
There is a video of his commitment on Hulu.
Hope he keeps making strides. We're gonna need him to be solid if we're going to win the B1G next year. Interior DL is one of the question marks of this team going into next year. Hope BWC sees the potential for starting and takes advantage of it and produces.
Teammates: Hey everyone, Big Will is working hard and getting better!
MGoBlog: Ahhhh what a wimp! My sister's cousin's 10 month old labradoodle can do that.
That's nothing - my pug mix maxes out at 400lb clean and jerk.
That's like...3 times as much as I can bench.
oh yeah, i dont even know what/if i can bench
This isn't impressive at all for a man his size. Not trying to be mean but im disappointed.
Psssh. My goldfish could deadlift BWC and bench 370 AT THE SAME TIME!
370? Thats all he is benching? That is suprisingly weak for a D1 DT. I was benching 350 my senior year of high school and got up to 385 be the end of my freshman year of college. Then my shoulders stopped working.
I am glad hes working his tail off, but I hope he gets much stronger before next season.
A far cry from Trent "The Beast" Richardson and his 475 mark. Not that I'm saying its easy, or that I'm trying to degrade BWC in any way. I couldn't put up 370 to save my own life. I just thought he'd be able to put up more, but good to hear he's busting his ass. He needs to be a force on the line next year.
I am a 6'0 215lb high school teacher and that's what I bench.... that is really not good for a d1 lineman... good to see improvement though. It sounds like there is room for much more. Hopefully we see big things from him this year.
My 87 year old mom just bench pressed BWC holding his barbell.
Pretty good for her age.
I think he can be a solid player with a second year in the system. All these years as a Cubs fan made me to much of an optimist, because I also seem to be the only one who thinks Wilkins can be serviceable also.
It says he benched 395 on his recruiting profile, and that was 4 years ago. I hate how they lie so much on their profiles
I love for a while thios thread turned into a "hey I can lift more than you" thread
long time visitor, first time poster obviously.
Had to create an account just to give some posters here some perspective about BWC's bench press number. As one informed poster here already stated, BWC has long arms, which makes a huge difference in benching. People throwing around their bench press numbers and body weight is comical, especially since I can guarantee none are 6'5 or taller AND have ever played college football.
Anyway here is a short list of DL that had pretty good college careers and their bench press numbers respectively.
320 pound college Albert Haynesworth 425lbs max
340 pound college Vince Wilfork 375lbs max
300 pound collge Marcus Spears 405lbs max
Combine Kevin Williams 23 reps at 225
Combine Jimmy Kennedy 23 reps of 225
Combine Gerald Mccoy 23 reps of 225
And please stop with the Trent Richardson benches 500lbs talk.
Adrian Peterson was a better college prospect and will end up having a better nfl career. But he's 6'2 (longer arms) and his max bench was only 345 lbs coming out of college. That's over 150lbs less than TR omgdz. Does that mean AP is weak since half the posters here could out bench press or can hang with him at the gym?
Well Richardson also squats 600 which IS useful for driving through tackles. I don't think anyone is arguing that lifting prowess = football ability, but it certainly helps.