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Burke still leads the POY race
It seems that the ESPN hype engine for Oladipo has not been able to take the lead away from Burke in the POY race: http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=collegebasketballna... Also a point of note is that this poll closed before our game against Purdue where Trey had another stellar MVP performance.
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March 7th, 2013 at 3:56 PM | Burke should take it. Indiana (Score:3 Normal)
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Burke should take it. Indiana relies on Oladipo and Zeller and as we saw last night Trey carried this team by himself to the end. Again.

'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:13 PM | I agree that Burke has moved (Score:1)
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I agree that Burke has moved ahead of Oladipo due to their performances over the past two games. I am sure the head to head performances this Sunday will be quite important when the final votes are cast. Fair or not, the headline games are what stand out for the voters and the final game of the regular season to determine the champions of the best conference in college basketball is exactly that.

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:27 PM | Seems fair to me. If they (Score:2)
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Seems fair to me. If they don't play well against top competition, then they don't deserve to be considered for POY. if you only feast on weak competition, then you probably aren't that good. Burke plays extremely well every game in the toughest conference in America, including against top competition. He's gotta be the POY

"I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start."

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:05 PM | At this stage, barring a wild surge by the likes of Ola- (Score:1)
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dipo--which I don't see coming--I think it's Burke by acclamation. I hope some of the bball team is conspiring as we speak about how to shut Oladipo down Sunday, and help secure the award for Trey.

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:52 PM | I'm pretty sure (Score:2)
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I'm pretty sure this is s/...or maybe not.  In any event, I would hope the bball team is focused on shutting down Indiana and winning the game.  Again...probably s/.

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March 7th, 2013 at 6:14 PM | You don't think some of the team could quietly (Score:1)
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vow not to let Oladipo go off on Sunday?

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March 7th, 2013 at 6:57 PM | I think what he is saying, (Score:2)
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I think what he is saying, and I agree with this, is that it would be disappointing if the players focused on beating one player rather than on beating the team. Obviously there can be plenty of overlap there, but I would hope our team wouldn't stray from the game plan just to stop Oladipo.

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:04 PM | I am biased (Score:3 Normal)
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But Burke is special. He is the only player to score at least 15 points in every B1G game. His bad game is a good night for most everyone else.

 

"[The University of Michigan] was, in short, the testing ground for all my prejudices, my beliefs and my ignorance, and it helped to lay out the boundaries of my life."--Arthur Miller

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:24 PM | So...15 out of 64 voters (Score:5 Normal)
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So...15 out of 64 voters didn't have Burke in the top 3. Holy bias.

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:01 PM | Or maybe... (Score:-1 Trolling)
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They just think there 3 better candidates?

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:30 PM | But that's simply impossible. (Score:3 Normal)
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But that's simply impossible.  Accxording to Dan Dakish Burke isnt even Player of the Year in the B1G, much less the nation.

All hail King Oladipo.  As evidenced by the OSU game - when he's ready to take a game over....it's OVER.

 

 

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:34 PM | Take Burke away from (Score:5 Normal)
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Take Burke away from Michigan- we're a pretty average team, probably similar to minnesota. Take Oladipo away from IU and they can replace him with the highly over rated Sheehey and they're still in the B1G race. Burke means more to us than any other player does for their respective teams.

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:36 PM | Dan Dakich is exactly the (Score:1)
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Dan Dakich is exactly the reason why I respect Jay Bilas or Kirk Herbstreit who (in most cases) display professionalism and don't let their personal fandom openly interfere with their jobs as analysts/commentators.

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:56 PM | Sorry, I thought you said Jay (Score:5 Normal)
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Sorry, I thought you said Jay Bilas.

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:06 PM | Hahaha I see what you did (Score:1)
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Hahaha I see what you did there but Dan Dakich is a much worse of an Indiana homer than Jay is a duke homer - there are atleast a few times i can remember that he was not pro-duke. It could also be a case of recency bias.

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:03 PM | What (Score:4 Normal)
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went wrong with Dakich?  When he first game on the scene I thought he had promising candor and good insight.  This year he is an unmitigated jackass. 

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:24 PM | ego, ego, ego (Score:1)
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even Vitale didn't suck when he first came on the scene, but his ego arrived soon after and we continue to suffer some 30 years later.

I also agree on Bilas--he is (much much better and) more objective than Dakich so long as we can look past his Amaker-UofM brain fart.

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:45 PM | Burke is #3 on the floor but (Score:4 Normal)
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Burke is #3 on the floor but #1 in America's heart

If you see someone in an airport with Michigan logos on luggage and they are wearing a pilot uniform come say hello.

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:09 PM | Oladipo is great but his PPG (Score:1)
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Oladipo is great but his PPG (13.7) is pretty underwhelming for such a serious NPOY candidate.

I think we win on Sunday, but say the Hoosiers squeek it out in a game where Burke is great and Oladipo is just OK. In that scenario, I would expect Oladipo to win the Big Ten POY and Burke the National POY since Midwesterners are notoriously provincial and put a far greater stock into the conference championship than national heads do.

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:33 PM | I also don't understand the (Score:4 Normal)
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I also don't understand the Oladipo love. He's a good player for sure, but he's not a big time scorer (though very efficient), and doesn't do anything else elite on the offensive end. He's a high energy athlete on D, but even his steals and rebound numbers aren't that great.

I just don't see it.

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March 7th, 2013 at 7:27 PM | He's on one of the best teams in the country (Score:1)
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and I think he's had a few good games plus his tendency to create highlight reel material makes him easily to love from a MSM perspective

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:11 PM | If Burke gets another stellar (Score:2)
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If Burke gets another stellar performance on Sunday, and especially hits 15+ points, I don't see him losing the award. No one in Big Ten history will have ever accomplished 15+ points in every conference game. Burke means more to our success than Oladipo does to Indiana's. in my opinion, there is no man in the country who is more vital to his team's success than Burke.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:24 PM | that IU is considered to have (Score:4 Normal)
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that IU is considered to have two players who are reputed to be on Burke's level*, you really wonder how they ever lose a game

 

*they aren't

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March 7th, 2013 at 6:37 PM | Zeller is not even on the (Score:1)
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Zeller is not even on the level of DeShaun Thomas, let alone Burke.

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:35 PM | Oladipo averages 27.5 minutes (Score:1)
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Oladipo averages 27.5 minutes per game.  Tell me the last person to win POY under 30 minuites per game.

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:56 PM | Kenyon Martin and Elton Brand (Score:2)
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Kenyon Martin and Elton Brand averaged 29.3 in 1999 and 2000. But those guys basically averaged 20 and 10 for the season, which is huge in college.

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March 7th, 2013 at 6:49 PM | This (Score:1 Normal)
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Shouldn't even be a race. We are a top ten team, and might be a bubble team or worse without trey this season

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:34 PM | Burke POY (Score:0)
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As much as I like Burke, I would rather have him not be POY. For the conference, you bet. National POY puts a huge target on his back as well as the teams. Fly a bit under the radar as the Big Dance nears.

Screw the browneyes

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March 7th, 2013 at 11:07 PM | Because Burke doesn't already (Score:2)
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Because Burke doesn't already have a target on his back? He's played with that target all year and put up fantastic numbers. Him winning it would not have anything to do with how far we go in the tournament whatsoever. 

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:05 AM | Burke was left off 15 (Score:2)
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Burke was left off 15 ballots? What the hell?

Also, come on man...who voted for Ben McLemore #1? This isn't based on who will go first in the NBA draft. And get out of here, Mason Plumlee got a first place vote.

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