He's right, though he
HEY GUYS LETS MAKE FUN OF
HEY GUYS LETS MAKE FUN OF STATE SAYING OFFICIATING COST THEM GAMES!
hey we lost cause of officiating.
Trouble?
Coaches get in trouble for complaining about officiating...can they do anything negative to Burke for the same thing?
did he comment of the LACK OF
did he comment on the LACK OF DEFENSE
3-3-5 til the day I die y'all
Lol This actually made me
Lol This actually made me laugh...I don't know how I was about to though up with the complete misery I am feeling right now
Class of 2008 and 2009
Really Burke? Wow. This
Really Burke? Wow. This season is over.
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"
This season is not over, and
This season is not over, and in fact the game against Sparty this weekend is going to have some major, major fireworks. Our team is pissed, and they know they're being called out on their D, and I expect them to play as physical a game as we have seen in years. Then given that Sparty is always looking to scrum with Big Bro due to Sparty's UM fixation, and I give it about a 50/50 shot this game erupts into a brawl at some point. No joke. If our team wilts to Sparty's physical play and gets out boarded badly again though, I'll turn the page on Beilin's chances at an N.C. in the next ten years until he understands the value of defense and rebounding like Izzo does.
Yeah, because they responded
Yeah, because they responded so well to the Wisconsin game, the MSU blowout, the first shit parade against PSU....
Where is the precedent for this team responding to adversity? They're going to get killed by MSU and IU and Purdue's not exactly looking hot now either.
Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought. It always defeats order because it is better organized.
Stop It Trey
Just stop it.
"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman
Plus
+1000000000000
Geez IU is the toughest team they played now this.
Please just shut up and no twitter appologies either. Just play ball.
"I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member" - Groucho Marx
Things you never say:
Things you never say: That.
Come on, Trey.
Totally.
Complaining about the quality of Big Ten officiating should only ever be done anonymously on a message board nobody cares about.
He may be right
Yes the officiating was bad, but it's not the reason we lost. We shouldn't have been in the position where officials could change the outcome of the game. When you're playing a team who hasn't won a conference game all year and you're in the top 5, you should be up by 15+ points at the end of the game regardless of the officiating. Maybe we should try playing good defense for once before we start blaming officials.
Class of 2014
he's absolutely right... i
he's absolutely right... i was looking at the stat line and it said the refs went 6/8 from the field, 5/5 from the line for 19pts.
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We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Let's go with the six
Let's go with the six turnovers and the fact the team forgot to play defense for the last ten minutes as the real reasons. Blaming officiating right now just feels petty and like an attempt to shift responsibility for a loss that had no reason to happen.
Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought. It always defeats order because it is better organized.
It was true. For the people
It was true. For the people who say that as Michigan fans we never should blame the officials. If we don't hold them accountable who will?
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Probably their bosses. I'd
Probably their bosses. I'd figure that's who holds them accountable.
CoE Class of 2007
Hahaha... Good luck with that
Hahaha... Good luck with that
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
Yeah, no
Their bosses clearly don't. There is consistently AWFUL reffing in the Big Ten, at the refs never seem to get in any trouble.
How would you know if a ref
How would you know if a ref "got in trouble"?
I do know what I'm talking about - I've spoken with BCS conference officials cordinators. They do hold their officials accountable to standards. The ACC coordinator told me that their baseline is 90% correct and 100% correct in the final 4 minutes. Anything less earns them a negative report.
The ways refs are punished is through games. If they are rated poorly, they no longer get games and we the fans never see them again. Believe it or not, it happens more often than you think.
CoE Class of 2007
Well, it doesn't seem to be
Well, it doesn't seem to be working. There is so many incompetent officials it's mind boggling.
Why don't we hire young, former college basketball players and pay them a great salary so they need no second job?
Does it really make sense to have these 60-70 yr old guys trying to keep up with extremely athletic college kids? I mean, why do we think this is ok? Makes zero sense.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
You really think the problem
You really think the problem is that the officials are on the complete other side of the court laboring to breath? What are you watching?
Officiating is hard. Basketball seems especially hard. On one hand, guys down low are allowed to get physical but at certain times (e.g., while shooting), so much as touching a finger on a guy's arm is a foul. And you have to do that in real time with probably 4 other players in the mix around them.
the problem is, fans of both
the problem is, fans of both teams view the same play and have completely contrasting opinions of what just happened. Now and then there is a completely blown call that everyone can agree was wrong. But even then, half of the fans of the team in question think it was called right.
People will never be happy with officiating.
Good point, sorta...
I don't know of too many 70 year-old refs, but college does hire a lot of guys with really great day jobs and then fly them in to work games.
The solution is simple: throw out 95% of the rules concerning athletes taking perks, get rid of the enforcement and investigation staffs, let schools get rid of their compliance staffs, and put all of the money into competent, full-time officials.
There were a couple of
There were a couple of football refs this year that got demoted because of poor officiating, one from the Big Ten.
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"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."
- Jack Handey
Also
We play shitty D and puss out on the road were factors in the loss.
Yes
We, team is soft.
BILG
Grammar
Be damned
Yup. That explains why this
Yup. That explains why this team has been playing piss-poor defense for the past month, walks into every game with cement on their feet for the first 10 minutes, shows little if any defensive passion or aggression. It's out of control at this point. Two more likely losses heading into the Big Ten Tournament, no bye, maybe a win then a loss, and then an early exit from the Tournament.
This team either squandered the season or wasn't that good to begin with.
~Herm
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I aver to the latter
what do we have as a signature win? Our defense is atrocious as evidenced by the B1G field percentage published a few weeks back.. . .
Might as well blame Sandusky
Might as well blame Sandusky for the loss
We lost because of shitty
We lost because of shitty defense and leaving guys wide open at the top of the key for an easy 3 but that doesn't mean we should keep our mouth shut on the atrocious officiating because they were beyond mediocre today (e.g., Morgan getting called for a foul for standing next to a guy). The big ten needs to make a serious change cause its getting ridiculous out there. The refs are lost on charge/block calls, inconsistent at best (and biased at worst) when the center comes out to help out on a PG (horford/mcgary/morgan called for light touches while PSU not getting called for the same). Its such a shame that the refs are so bad. I guess they are better than certain Big 12 refs but thats not saying much...
I will agree with that
It seemed like McGary and Horford would get called whenever they came out to help and they so much as touched the PG. On the other end it did seem like the Penn State bigs were allowed to lean into Trey pretty hard. There were a few where there was definite contact (Trey recoiled) but nothing. Life on the road in the Big Ten
No Excuse
When you are up 15 points in the second half to a team that hasn't won a conference game all season, you should not lose period. Bad reffereeing or not.
"Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS" GO BLUE!!!!
It is when right after the
It is when right after the lead the refs started giving Penn State a parade to the free throw line
This team is soft. That is
This team is soft. That is why they lost.
"But in the tire fire that was last year's secondary he showed a little spark." - Brian Cook
Or we are just really young
When 5 of our possible 9 man rotation are freshman, we are bound to make numerous defensive mistakes. This makes playing defense more difficult. Making these mistakes exacerbates our ability to play "tough." Also having our only senior, Morgan, hobbled by a bad ankle sprain makes defense tougher (ha; that is truly no pun intended). With more experience and conditioning, I'm sure we will look a little "tougher" out there.
"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.
If there is one person in
If there is one person in college basketball that can say it, it's Trey. Officiating is so amateur in college it's embarrassing. No excuse for refs getting swayed so much by home crowd and momentum.
Burke has never mentioned officiating in the past. This game looked easily in hand up 15 in the 2nd half. A few charge calls and 3s by PSU and momentum took over.
Yes, Michigan played bad enough to put themselves in this position but the way this went down wasnt right. When the other team goes nuts from 3 this can happen.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
Do you want him to come out
Do you want him to come out and give the refs a slap on the back and say good job? He's the one who plays the game not us and knows whether the refs are calling it both ways.
903 wins most in college football
Kind of would prefer he just
Kind of would prefer he just doesn't say anything about it at all.
Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow
Rather
Him not comment at all about the refs. Instead, he could focus on a few things on the court in their control and maybe do them a bit better vs an 0-14 team...now 1-14.
Like I said in the other
Like I said in the other thread, you're not going to get calls on the road. And you're not going to get them when a team is gunning for an upset in their own building. You could see those charges four steps before they happened. PSU could play hands-on, physical defense without a reach-in because they knew the whistle wasn't going to blow.
That's basketball. It's like that in every arena in the country. And God knows we've gotten our share of help in that department putting the dagger in a great team at Crisler.
The key is how you get around it. These guys didn't even show they cared enough to figure it out. The lack of intensity, the looks of resignation, the game was over as soon as PSU cut it to three.
Meanwhile, every other big10
Meanwhile, every other big10 team that has played PSU for the past year didnt seem to find the refs to be a problem
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Conspiracy?
The referees were really bad in last season's trip to Happy Valley, too.
"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."
- Jack Handey
Was every other team in the
Was every other team in the Top 5? Do you think they had the same motivation for Purdue?
Did the officials get swayed by the crowd in the raucous environment vs Northwestern?
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
If you think that a Top 5
If you think that a Top 5 team should have a higher chance of losing on the road , I dont know what to tell you
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The constant bitching about
The constant bitching about officiating is pure comedy gold. Michigan has a relatively intelligent football fanbase, but Michigan basketball fans are terrible. THERE IS NO CONFERENCE WIDE CONSPIRACY AGAINST MICHIGAN!
PSU has lost to plenty of high ranked teams at home. Michigan, on a Tuesday, with a shitty crowd, just isn't that big a deal.
NC State beat PSU at PSU by 17
Indiana won by 23
OSU by 14
MSU by 8 with 2 players suspended
Calm down
The only references to a conspiracy were of a joking nature.
Relax.
"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."
- Jack Handey
He's right, though he probably shouldn't say it.