the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
Bucknut Recruiting Perspective
October 19th, 2011 at 8:54 PM
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Bucknut Recruiting Perspective
In an effort to follow our enemy here in the South, I caught this interesting update on 11Warriors.
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2011/10/11w-recruiting-notebook-1#comments
The author has the belief that the Buckeyes have legitimate chances with Washington, Stanford, Pittman, Kozan, and Diamond. While Washington and Stanford may be legitimate due to proximity, I see delusions of grandeur here when you do not have a head coach confirmed for 2012 and they have not even offered Kozan. It will be fun to watch what happens here but I do not see how they round out a solid top 20 class with the swirl of uncertainty with the NCAA and the lack of a coaching commitment.
(Edit: My personal opinions and wishes got in the way of clear thinking. Thanks to the Board for setting me straight.)
October 19th, 2011 at 8:55 PM | 
Damned deer testicles know
Damned deer testicles know
October 19th, 2011 at 8:55 PM |
This is fun to read.
This is fun to read.
This is fun to read.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:59 PM |
Don't think that's delusional at all
Don't think that's delusional at all
They're almost guaranteed to get Washington and Stanford, I've never bought that Pittman is solid to MSU, and they say they have an "outside shot" at Diamond.
Post seems pretty accurate to me.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
October 20th, 2011 at 2:15 AM |
Yeah... that is not at all
Yeah... that is not at all
October 20th, 2011 at 7:35 AM |
I stand corrected
I stand corrected
and will not stick my neck out like this again. Thanks to the MGoTeam for for correcting my misinterpretation and wishful thinking.
Brady Hoke - High quality recruits one or two at a time.
October 20th, 2011 at 5:06 PM |
I don't know much about
I don't know much about
I don't know much about Wisconsin recruiting number, but they were just able to flip JJ Denman from Penn Shtate. There might be a chance that he took the last OT spot since they now have three OT for this class.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
October 19th, 2011 at 9:02 PM |
In all due respect - I do. I
In all due respect - I do. I
In all due respect - I do. I live in Cleveland and I can tell you that any uncertainty over the captain of the good ship buckeye has not meant the passengers still don't want to get on board. OSU still owns vast sections of Ohio and altnough Hoke is making excellent inroads, make no mistake most kids still dream of going to Columbus and only Columbus. I didnt see one name on the list that I think would be a shocker if they committed to OSU.
Things are definitely getting better but don't kid yourself that OSU has somehow lost home turf advantadge down here.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:06 PM |
Uh oh, that sounds like an
Uh oh, that sounds like an
Uh oh, that sounds like an open invitation for someone to post that "shirts in Ohio, million years thing".
"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:13 PM |
Since you asked...
Since you asked...
I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start.
Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:32 PM |
Okay I have to ask
Okay I have to ask
what was the origin of this gag?
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:53 PM |
Read this thread:
Read this thread:
October 19th, 2011 at 9:38 PM |
didnt i see this post like 10
didnt i see this post like 10
didnt i see this post like 10 times for the past month
Playing football on Wall Street
October 20th, 2011 at 12:06 AM |
The shirt meme
The shirt meme
I think the shirt meme is overblown. Ohioans are buying more Michigan shirts and less OSU shirts. People in the media have misinterpreted this to mean that OSU fans are being converted to Michigan fans.
This is about the margins. Marginal OSU fans are buying less gear. Marginal Michigan fans (yes, there are some in Ohio) finally have a reason to get excited and buy some gear after three cruel years. However, even a marginal OSU fan would not throw his imitation red sweatervest in the trash and go to the Easton Mall to buy a "This is Michigan Fergodsakes" t-shirt. Virtually no one is being converted...except thankfully for a couple of key recruits, and maybe the occasional 12 year-old Denard fan.
That's how I read the data.
“We accept reality so readily, perhaps because we sense that nothing is real.”
October 19th, 2011 at 9:36 PM |
It was
It was
You should have done it.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:02 PM |
Look at it from a recruit
Look at it from a recruit
Look at it from a recruit perspective...in spite of all of the bad press, firing a coach, and being the most dishonest program out there with the possible exception of Miami, they still are willing to pay players and look the other way. Its a ticket to endless benefits, NCAA involvement or not. Show me the money
Reality is an illusion created by an unsafe drop in blood alcohol levels that exposes one to the idiocy of others.
October 20th, 2011 at 9:44 AM |
See, I think there are at least two types of kids ...
See, I think there are at least two types of kids ...
there are the ones who have grown up loving the sport, and wanting to go to their state's (or region's) leading institution for football. It helps that OSU has been perennially successful. Those kids are predisposed to commit to OSU regardless of whether money is dangled in front of them or not. The only thing that would sway them away is bench depth at OSU, versus a premier program elsewhere (i.e., likelihood of playing time).
Then there are the talented, self-centered Pryor types, who have probably been on the take for a long time, and will go where the school at least looks the other way on those things, or where their sugar daddy pays them to.
I think (would hope) most of the players for OSU are in the former category, and if they have taken benefits, it was not a reason to go to OSU, so much as an angel-devil opportunity in time.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:06 PM |
It's Fun...
It's Fun...
....to read the things that Buckeye fans think and believe. Oddly enough, this seems like a relatively sane assessment of their recruiting, however. I think they are probably right on a few of these anyway.
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3
October 19th, 2011 at 9:07 PM |
scholarship reductions
scholarship reductions
They don't seem to think that scholarship reductions are on the way.
my hot asian wife love me long time
October 19th, 2011 at 9:08 PM |
If they get more than like 3 a year
If they get more than like 3 a year
for 2-3 years I'll eat my hat.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:10 PM |
At The Very Least...
At The Very Least...
Put some Lea & Perrins on the hat first. I may be right there with you if the sentence is that light.
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3
October 19th, 2011 at 9:32 PM |
USC still seems to be doing
USC still seems to be doing
USC still seems to be doing well enough in recruiting and they have, you know, actually recieved a punishment albeit 5 years later.
I think OSU will be fine given they will get a one year bowl ban in 2016...
/NCAA where playing by the rules happens
or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
October 20th, 2011 at 12:54 AM |
Well USC was interesting
Well USC was interesting
Well USC was interesting given that they were able to split up the bowl ban and the scholarship reductions. This year is the last year of the bowl ban and next year the scholarship reductions start taking place.
Quick! To the Hindenpeter!
October 19th, 2011 at 9:33 PM |
Honest Question
Honest Question
Where would you rather Washington go since we do not seem like an option, MSU or OSU?
You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.
October 19th, 2011 at 9:36 PM |
OSU, cause i just dont like
OSU, cause i just dont like
OSU, cause i just dont like dantonio
Playing football on Wall Street
October 19th, 2011 at 10:10 PM |
OSU
OSU
Easily. Last thing that I need is Dantonio and Narduzzi teaching Washington to wrench Devin/Shane/Russell's helmet in a pile or throwing a punch at Magnuson/Kalis/Braden/Stacey/Bars/Banner/Garnett/Diamond/ etc.
October 19th, 2011 at 10:52 PM |
Garnett/Diamond/ committed?
Garnett/Diamond/ committed?
Garnett/Diamond/ committed?
Playing football on Wall Street
October 19th, 2011 at 9:51 PM |
Lol
Lol
Lol
October 19th, 2011 at 10:12 PM |
This isn't crazy at all.
This isn't crazy at all.
It's actually a very good article that does take into account that the Buckeyes are not in the greatest position.
Washington and Stanford are good bets for OSU. Pittman has always seemed lukewarm on MSU and given that Michigan doesn't want him, OSU is the natural place where he might turn. If you read any article about Kozan, it clearly states that OSU is his favorite school and that if they offer, they're likely to jump into the lead. Sticking point there seems to be whether OSU feels they need another guard. As for Diamond, they probably do have an outside chance there. With Wisky taking Denman, who knows if they have a spot for Diamond? Michigan might not have a place for him either. Which likely leaves Arkansas, MSU, OSU and Illinois with as good a shot as any other schools.
This is not in the "Kalis is wavering" crazy camp. Like it or not, OSU is going to get some very good players and my bet is that they end up with most of the players on this list.
October 19th, 2011 at 10:57 PM |
You make some very good points
You make some very good points
but when I hear Ohio fans saying they believe Jim Tressel will be back as their coach in 2013, I have no idea what believe from them. Give it up Ohio. Jim Tressel aint comin' back!
October 19th, 2011 at 10:38 PM |
o i will laugh when brionte
o i will laugh when brionte
o i will laugh when brionte commits to mich
October 19th, 2011 at 10:41 PM |
Maybe
Maybe
If they can get Urban.
/s
//kind of
///plz no happenz
October 19th, 2011 at 10:51 PM |
Shits already hit below rock
Shits already hit below rock
Shits already hit below rock bottom over there, im not expecting Brionte to decommit unless they get nailed which they deserve to, but wont...
October 19th, 2011 at 11:02 PM |
Buckeyes also have water skiing delusions.....
Buckeyes also have water skiing delusions.....
hahahaha. eeeeek
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Tjabz
October 19th, 2011 at 11:04 PM |
Buckeyes also have water skiing delusions.....
Buckeyes also have water skiing delusions.....
shit.
Tjabz
October 19th, 2011 at 11:40 PM |
I hope they do get Urban
I hope they do get Urban
Bring it! Ohio State will have a good class either way. I remember a MICHIGAN team beating Urban Meyer and his Great team of his Gator's with the god of all Quarter Back's on that team and MICHIGAN WON!!
GO BLUE!!
I am drunk, or I wouldn't be talking to you.
October 19th, 2011 at 11:42 PM |
They only one out of that
They only one out of that
They only ones out of that group I'd be surprised about are Diamond and Kozan. Rivals doesn't even list an OSU offer for Kozan. The others don't seem like long shots at all. For some crazy reason I feel like Diamond ends up either Iowa, Wisky, or SEC.
October 20th, 2011 at 12:22 AM |
Whoever gave me the
Whoever gave me the
Whoever gave me the flamebait, go fuck yourself.
October 20th, 2011 at 8:44 AM |
wow....
wow....
first day and you're already starting fights...Have you ever heard of Bolivia?
October 20th, 2011 at 9:25 AM |
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(No subject)
And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!
October 20th, 2011 at 9:34 AM |
Restart
Restart
Did you ever Super Mario Bros. on Nintendo 64? Do you remember times when you were performing poorly and would hit the restart button to avoid the humiliation of losing? I just did that for you. Consider this a fresh start.
For future reference, NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. And I'd avoid commenting on the rating of your posts - if people didn't like it, for whatever reason, criticizing their opinions tend to alienate them futher.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
October 20th, 2011 at 10:42 AM |
N64
N64
what is this? some younger generation BS? I remember restarting Super Mario Bros on my original Nintendo, having it not work and having to blow the shit out of the console to get the dust out. Kids now-a-days. Don't know how good they have it.
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
October 20th, 2011 at 11:27 AM |
How about HD gaming? I mean
How about HD gaming? I mean
How about HD gaming? I mean growing up I had a 19in CRT TV that I bought w/ my own money that I played PS1 and PS2 on for years and was hooked up using a RF adapter that reduced the quality so bad you could barely see Crash Bandicoot.
Now I have a glorious HD 50incher that I sit 3 feet from when I play xbox....I mean WTF? My kids (when I have them) are going to be so spoiled....
Blue is Faster
October 20th, 2011 at 12:21 PM |
Original Nintendo
Original Nintendo
Hahahaha. Damn. I was actually talking about original Nintendo (got one as a holiday gift when I was 12, I think) but thought it was called Nintendo 64. Was the 64 the second version? I had that one too but it was clearly not as good.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
October 20th, 2011 at 1:48 PM |
N64
N64
Was the one that had the 3D mario. The controller was weird with a joystick in it. In college we played MarioKart 64 for at least 4 hours a day. Not kidding.
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
October 20th, 2011 at 10:48 AM |
Yup
Yup
I do.
October 20th, 2011 at 3:08 AM |
I'm not saying Urban Meyer is
I'm not saying Urban Meyer is
I'm not saying Urban Meyer is a BAD coach but I really think he's extremely overrated. He did well at Utah, but his success at Florida wasn't all due to superior coaching. He was at the helm at Florida when Miami (The U) and Florida State were down. And by down, I mean they were still winning, just not as much and not on a national level. He basically had his pick of recruits (from FL) because the two other major programs in the state weren't competing nationally. Not to mention, he came into a pretty good situation with a fairly loaded roster because of the Zooker before him. And the spread system he used down there, I tend to think it has caught on.
So I know a lot of people tremble in fear when they hear Urban Meyer's name with the ohio job, but fuck that. I ain't scared of him and you shouldn't be either. I mean, Michigan beat him when we played! And actually, we should have beaten them pretty handily if not for two Mike Hart derps. And I really don't think he'll take the job. He'll think about it, meet with some people and follow the prelimiary steps of the "courting" process - but he left for two reasons, family and health. Ohio State is a demanding, high pressure job with an intense, rabid fan base. Time consuming too. Not good for health or family. Penn State? I could see that happening, but that has Al Golden bolting Miami (for lying to him) and following in Paterno's footsteps all over it.
October 20th, 2011 at 9:12 AM |
What's the deal with Diamond?
What's the deal with Diamond?
All last year, he seemed to have Michigan at the top of his list, but he never committed. Has he cooled on Michigan? Doesn't he like the fact we have recruited so many other OL? Has Michigan cooled on him? I have never gotten a clear sense of why he wasn't one of our early commits this year, and why people now think he is likely to go elsewhere.
wolverine 73
October 20th, 2011 at 9:39 AM |
He wasn't an early commit
He wasn't an early commit
in part because his coach doesn't want top-flight recruits to commit early (he wants them to stay uncommitted so they draw attention to other prospects at the school).
Depending on who you ask, he's less high on Michigan because we have threeve OL in this class already, or because Michigan isn't recruiting him that hard anymore.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
October 20th, 2011 at 10:22 AM |
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(No subject)
October 20th, 2011 at 1:05 PM |
thanks
thanks
I forgot about the coach not wanting his kids to commit early.
wolverine 73
Damned deer testicles know nothing.
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