will be michigan's highest pick in a while
Buckeye-geddon: 1-year bowl ban, 9 schollies, extra probation, JT Show Cause
December 20th, 2011 at 3:39 PM | 
All things considered, I
All things considered, I
December 20th, 2011 at 3:40 PM |
here
here
you can find it here
And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!
December 20th, 2011 at 4:02 PM |
Why would you trust something at "MGoBloe"?
Why would you trust something at "MGoBloe"?
I actually thought the link was pretty creative....
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
December 20th, 2011 at 4:15 PM |
Well, if you've used it before, how can you knock it?
Well, if you've used it before, how can you knock it?
And it wasn't the typo...that's no fun, it happens. It was the AMUSING typo. That's comedy.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
December 20th, 2011 at 4:18 PM |
lighten up Francis
lighten up Francis
And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!
December 20th, 2011 at 3:50 PM |
That was a pretty nifty
That was a pretty nifty
That was a pretty nifty little trick. You're good at internets.
"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.
-Craig Roh 10/29/2011
December 20th, 2011 at 3:58 PM |
“The show-cause penalty
“The show-cause penalty
“The show-cause penalty against Tressel signifies he is a serious offender and means that any NCAA school that hires him could be subject to sanctions for appointing him as football coach absent a showing it should escape penalties.”
December 20th, 2011 at 3:34 PM |
buckeye plannet meltdown,
buckeye plannet meltdown,
buckeye plannet meltdown, enjoy fellas:
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/buckeye-football/623940-yahoo-tattoos-tosu-1-year-bowl-ban-per-dispatch-556.html
Looking for BTTYS Nike sb Michigan Dunk Highs size 14, hit me up.
December 20th, 2011 at 3:35 PM |
Only 1 postseason ban? I was
Only 1 postseason ban? I was
Only 1 postseason ban? I was hoping for 2 or maybe 10.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
December 20th, 2011 at 3:35 PM |
Who is going to start a new Dunn thread?
Who is going to start a new Dunn thread?
Bowl ban = new Dunn speculation!
Hail
December 20th, 2011 at 3:36 PM |
Any twitter reactions from current Ohio players/recruits
Any twitter reactions from current Ohio players/recruits
??
Janeane Garofalo (Film Actors Guild): "As actors it is our responsibility to read the newspaper, and then say what we read on television like it's our opinion"
December 20th, 2011 at 3:38 PM |
Columbus Dispatch
Columbus Dispatch
"The Dispatch also reported that Ohio State will lose four additional scholarships per year for the next three years. That's on top of the loss of five scholarships the school self-imposed."
Does that mean they lose a total of 17 over 3 years?
"So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah!" -- Lloyd
December 20th, 2011 at 3:46 PM |
It looks like ESPN misquoted
It looks like ESPN misquoted
It looks like ESPN misquoted the Dispatch.
December 20th, 2011 at 3:42 PM |
No it means 9 total. They
No it means 9 total. They
No it means 9 total. They added 4 to the 5 they self imposed.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
December 20th, 2011 at 3:44 PM |
That quote
That quote
does not mean 9 total. Whether or not that is correct remains to be seen.
"So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah!" -- Lloyd
December 20th, 2011 at 3:55 PM |
Sorry I misread that. You
Sorry I misread that. You
Sorry I misread that. You are right it might be a total higher than I originally thought.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
December 20th, 2011 at 3:57 PM |
No biggie
No biggie
because that might not be correct if The Dispatch was misquoted by ESPN. Wouldn't be the first time. Guess we'll know for sure shortly.
"So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah!" -- Lloyd
December 20th, 2011 at 3:51 PM |
Beat me to it
Beat me to it
I was hoping the ESPN article was right (agree that it's a misquote) but maybe it was a Freudian slip of the writer who may not be an OSU fan...
December 20th, 2011 at 3:38 PM |
My reaction
My reaction
Better than I feared, not as hard on Ohio as deserved. I wonder if it will placate USC or is that school going to sue the NCAA?
December 20th, 2011 at 3:38 PM |
If
If
If trust means anything to recruits, then Hoke has a wealth of ammunition to bring with him on the trail now.
December 20th, 2011 at 4:06 PM |
As great as this seems, it is
As great as this seems, it is
As great as this seems, it is even sweeter to beat them at full strength.
But I'll take it...
December 20th, 2011 at 3:40 PM |
Also, only 9 schollies over 3
Also, only 9 schollies over 3
Also, only 9 total schollies over 3 years? That's only 3 a year on average. Schollies make a slight difference, but the Bowl Ban is the only tangible punishment they can hand out now. Tressel was already gone.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
December 20th, 2011 at 3:45 PM |
as I said before
as I said before
some poor walk on or 5th year no longer gets a scholie
December 20th, 2011 at 3:46 PM |
Is anyone
Is anyone
on top of the Big Ten rules? Can Ohio still play in the Big championship game if they are serving a bowl ban?
December 20th, 2011 at 3:48 PM |
Nope, no postseason games
Nope, no postseason games
Nope, no postseason games which includes CCG
Whatcha gonna do, little brother?
December 20th, 2011 at 3:39 PM |
Is it 9 schollies lost per
Is it 9 schollies lost per
Is it 9 schollies lost per year or 9 altogether in 3 years?
Michigan FB, Michigan BB, Michigan HKY, 49ers, SF Giants, Sac Kings, Red Wings
December 20th, 2011 at 3:42 PM |
9 total
9 total
NCAA is tacking on 4 over the self-imposed 5.
December 20th, 2011 at 3:44 PM |
9 total, with more at the
9 total, with more at the
9 total, with more at the first year, I believe 3 self imposed, then 2, and 1. I'd guess itll go 4 the first year, 3 the second year, and 2 the third. Limiting scholarships lets the punished school trim off the bottom of its list, while the bowl ban inadvertantly trims recruits from the top of the list, and encourages early draft enrolling.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
December 20th, 2011 at 3:53 PM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
Do they have anyone we should anticipate may jump to the pros?
December 20th, 2011 at 3:42 PM |
Read ESPN. Reporting
Read ESPN. Reporting
Read ESPN. Reporting scholarships are 4 more per year, on top of the self imposed
December 20th, 2011 at 3:49 PM |
wow
wow
that is actually significant.
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
December 20th, 2011 at 3:57 PM |
Yep
Yep
And probably completely wrong. It's an additional 4 scholarships TOTAL.
December 20th, 2011 at 3:54 PM |
Yeah, I saw this as well.
Yeah, I saw this as well.
Yeah, I saw this as well. Would be more significant.
December 20th, 2011 at 4:08 PM |
ESPN has corrected their error.
ESPN has corrected their error.
The NCAA also issued a public reprimand and censure, put the Buckeyes on probation through Dec. 19, 2014, and reduced football scholarships from 85 to 82 through the 2014-15 academic year.
December 20th, 2011 at 3:43 PM |
Wow
Wow
I am actually a little surprised. I thought it was going to be a slap on the wrist. Congrats to the NCAA for finally not backing down and actually handing out something other than a wagging finger.
December 20th, 2011 at 3:43 PM |
not a mushroom cloud but I'll take it
not a mushroom cloud but I'll take it
and have a holiday chuckle
"Play hard and with great effort"
December 20th, 2011 at 3:43 PM |
Oh, this is glorious
Oh, this is glorious
I hope those arrogant, holier-than-thou mofos in C'bus are (paraphrasing Jackie Chiles), stupefied, mystified, and horrified. Apparently St. Urban and his master G. Gee can't control EVERYTHING. Let the tears of unfathomable sadness flow in buckeye-land, let the recruit-snatching begin, and let the Michigan reign of domination over tsio last 1,000 years. Huzzah!!
December 20th, 2011 at 3:46 PM |
Family Time
Family Time
Now Urban can coach AND spend more time with his family! It's a win-win for the Meyers.
"For the last 28 years, I've spent my life in the greatest of places, the University of Michigan." -Lloyd Carr
December 20th, 2011 at 3:47 PM |
I don't get the "Meyer lied" angle people are taking
I don't get the "Meyer lied" angle people are taking
This is still a total slap on the wrist. I doubt recruits will be swayed one way or another because their favorite school can't play in a bowl game when they are true freshmen. Having 82 scholarships instead of 85 is basically just a minor inconvenience.
As far as I know Meyer basically said "When the dust settles OSU will be fine" and that looks to be the case.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
December 20th, 2011 at 3:51 PM |
If 9
If 9
scholarships is trivial, why do people complain so much about oversigning? Because it's not trivial. A bowl ban may not change a recruit's mind, but it surely is more than a slap on the wrist. Somehow I doubt the motive for the NCAA is to impose penalties large enough to ensure Dunn jumps ship.
December 20th, 2011 at 4:03 PM |
It's the quantity that makes
It's the quantity that makes
It's the quantity that makes a difference. Oversigning makes a big impact because the schools that do it as a policy sign an extra 25+ kids every 4 years. They're oversigning an entire extra class per graduation cycle or more than double what Ohio will now lose, and not for just 3 years, but every year. Ohio is only going to lose 3 a year, so will Meyer will likely just not renew 3 5th year players that he didn't recruit and call it a day. The bowl ban wont even affect recruits unless they plan on being true freshman starters because it's only 1 year.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
December 20th, 2011 at 4:02 PM |
It isn't 9 scholarships
It isn't 9 scholarships
It is three a year for three years. They can sign 22 recruits in every class. To give you some perspective, Michigan signed 22 or fewer recruits in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009, and 2011. In 2005 we signed just 23.
OSU isn't competing directly against teams that oversign in the SEC (and who knows how long that practice will be permitted), so I don't see them being harmed in any significant manner.
If the worst of the punishment is "they might not be able to compete with an SEC team if they play for the national title", then it isn't much punishment at all.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
December 20th, 2011 at 4:16 PM |
I may be wrong, but can't
I may be wrong, but can't
I may be wrong, but can't they still sign 25 if they only get to 82 total? I don't think OSU has suffered much attrition, being short three scholarships is going to make each class smaller than it could be. Might not matter, but think where they would have been without Troy Smith.
December 20th, 2011 at 4:29 PM |
Not sure
Not sure
I just know USC's punishment meant they could only sign 15 AND had to stay under 75 total, so I just assume that OSU's will be similarly structured. If all they have to do is stay under 82 then the punishment is basically non-existent as you could just peace out a few non-productive upperclassmen every year and still comply.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
December 20th, 2011 at 5:05 PM |
I'm not sure what you don't
I'm not sure what you don't
I'm not sure what you don't get. Meyer told Dunn (according to Dunn) that nothing worse was going to happen. That turned out to be a lie.
December 20th, 2011 at 6:39 PM |
Nothing really happened
Nothing really happened
They can't play in a bowl game in the kid's freshman year and they got dinged another 1.3333333333 scholarships per year for three years over what they had already self-imposed. That is about as minor as the extra punishment could get.
To turn that into "OMG, he's lying to this kid's face!" is a severe stretch. It also isn't like the kid had signed an LOI and would now be fucked over. I'm pretty sure Dunn could give two shits about these new penalties and is still going to OSU.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
December 20th, 2011 at 7:11 PM |
Call it however you want, but
Call it however you want, but
Call it however you want, but the ruling today does not coincide with what Dunn publicly said Meyer told him. Meyer acted like he knew what was going to happen (and told recruits this) but later retracted and said he had no assurances. How do you know what Dunn is thinking? Maybe he really is pissed off about being lied to but is now too worried about how he would be treated in his home state if he opened his recruitment back up (LOI or not). I'm not saying this is definitely the case, but you don't know either.
December 20th, 2011 at 3:48 PM |
yesss
yesss
my day just got that much better. America
December 20th, 2011 at 3:49 PM |
Any body read the twitters
Any body read the twitters
Any body read the twitters and what recruits are sayinng, you all knnow who I am speaking of?
December 20th, 2011 at 3:49 PM |
The best part is reading the
The best part is reading the
The best part is reading the first few pages of that Buckeye Planet thread, from when the allegations first hit. What a collectively dumb fanbase.
I've also enjoyed reading about " NCAA presidences" and OSU's "impotence". Lol.
All things considered, I don't think a one-year bowl ban and 4 extra scholarships counts as much to Brionte Dunn.