Football is so popular in New England that BC, their "only major team" managed to average under 36k per game, despite being near a major metropolitan area. Sounds like people really love their BC football - let's jump on that.
BSD - Conference Expansion: Delany Goes Corleone
I think New Englanders' taste for watching large men smash each other leans mostly toward hockey and the Patriots.
The only way BC would be invited to the B1G is if ND insists that they be part of a package deal. (Truth be told, the B1G would probably take anybody that ND wanted as a package deal, as long as they're coming in with ND.)
It's nice that Minnesota received that 24 million dollar payout or whatever it was, but doesn't that include ALL media money.
The SEC and Big XII schools can all negotiate their own Tier 3 rights. For Vanderbilt, I can't imagine that's a ton (although I figure it's north of 0). For the Florida's of the world, that's 10 million a year which means UF made nearly 30 million this past year.
What am I missing?
BTW, what do schools like NW and Indiana do with all that money? They don't seem to be spending it on football facilities
Why expand for the sake of expanding? The only real candidate out east for me is Virginia Tech. They would be a home run like Nebraska, but they have a better academic standing than Nebraska.
Pitt: Is already in a market we own
Syracuse: Poor football team
Rutgers: Poor sports teams in general/ pro sports fan area
Maryland: Poor football team
Virginia: Decent football team/ hasn't had the success of their neghbor VT
Connecticut: poor football team/pro sports fan area
Growth media markets.
I do not want to see the Big Ten add someone like
Although I agree that would be nice, that's like asking underpaid employees to stick with their jobs just because they know everyone. But if people can make more money somewhere else, they go somewhere else. Same goes with college athletic programs.
I down vote expansion. I see no positive from it. It just increases the problem that we see now with only seeing Wisconsin once every half a decade.
I have the complete opposite reaction. IF the B1G goes to 16 teams, UVA, UNC and GT (along with ND) are exactly the teams that I'd like to see.
UNC and UVA are two of Top 5 Public Universities in the US and GT is a strong school as well. Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia would all be in the top half of B1G states in terms of population (and growing). UNC basketball speaks for itself. UNC and UVA lacrosse would put the B1G on the map in that sport. GT isn't a school that I'd get excited about but it certainly looks like a viable option (in a fertile recruiting area).
Syracuse, BC,Pittsburgh and Maryland all seem like incredibly boring options to me. Don't even get me started with Rutgers.....zzzzzzzz.
why does it seem like so many people are so eager to expand, i don't get why so many people think we need more more teams in our conference, 12 is more than enough, i have no problem with Nebraska, they were a good get. but more than 12 is too many. lets just keep things how they are.
I'm with you on not being behind expansion.
Though it's fashionable now, it dilutes the B1G brand too much at this point.
Even ND (gasp!) at this point I feel is questionable whether it's worthwhile to bring on board (mostly due to the need to bring ANOTHER team to maintain divisional balance... And I can't think of a team available that is worth bringing on for the sake of ND, especially since ND has ceased to be a worthwhile trophy program for awhile now.
Rutgers has a bad football program though which is number 1 on the reasons for expansion.
I live in Atlanta so Im biased..It would be AWESOME to have Michigan teams play in Atlanta..
Ga Tech is a great academic fit and has a very good national athletic program not to mention the Atlanta TV market... and its straight shot down 75...Im guessing Ga Tech is closer than Nebraska /Penn St..maybe even Iowa
Bring in Ga Tech!!
Having made all of those drives I can tell you definitely that, from U-M, Nebraska is a little bit further than Atlanta, but Iowa and PSU are much closer. Besides, geography isn't about the numbers on the GPS. GT is a southern school. Nebraska and Michigan are midwestern schools. Even if it were about numbers on the GPS, the closest Big Ten school to GT is much farther away than the closest Big Ten school to any other Big Ten school. It's obviously as geographically ridiculous as WVU in the Big 12.
Also: Atlanta is an SEC town more than anything else. GT isn't big enough to turn it into a Big Ten town.
I think the next round of expansion, if it happens, will be a net neutral for the Big 10 unless Notre Dame is pushed into the fold by some crafty championship arrangements. I was one of the people who initially argued that Rutgers would be a great pickup to expand the BTN's reach, but I've come to side with Delany's view that quality football is what really matters. Nebraska was a huge, huge pickup for the Big 10, but there probably isn't another Nebraska out there.
The Big 12 is suddenly very stable and no one is going to leave the SEC. The great pickups from a football standpoint in the ACC are all down south and much more likely to be pulled into similarly lucrative deals with the SEC or Big 12--which also happen to have more invested in other sports that Southern schools dominate, like baseball. In my mind, there isn't a Big East school worth pursuing and there aren't any independents left after Notre Dame.
To me, North Carolina would be a solid pickup to balance out a hypothetical addition of Notre Dame, but then they'd have to partially walk away from their rivalry with Duke and ditch NC State, which may be politically impossible. Virginia would be wonderful academically, but they don't bring much in terms of sports to the conference, which is the whole point of expansion.
In the end, I think the BIg 10 is too rich to become unstable and too powerful to not get an equal share of any new playoff/bowl arrangement. If that's the case, why add any school that isn't a serious net gain for the entire conference? The schools would rather split their TV and playoff/bowl revenue 12 ways instead of 14 or 16 if those additions don't increase everyone's share of the pie.
If we want to compete with the SEC, we need to bring in more strong football teams. That's why insert random Big East school will hurt us in prestige and it would dilute our brand.