This is good news.
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This is good news.
NO POLITICZ PLZ
Is there a limit of early enrollees that you can get each year ?
Anyway that's a good news, love to see freshmen in Spring games !
There is not a limit on how many can enroll early. However, if players enroll early, the team has the option of counting them toward the prior year's recruiting class (thus enabling you to sign more than 25 players in one cycle). I think there is a limit on how many you can do that for, though I don't think that rule is relevant to Michigan's situation right now because they don't have enough space under the 85 scholarship cap to sign anywhere near 26 players in 2014.
Do graduating seniors still count toward the limit even though they are not playing spring ball?
You mean, do players who will be seniors in 2013 and graduate in spring 2014 count toward the 85-scholarship limit for fall 2014? The answer is no. The departures of those players (plus any unplanned attrition) is what makes room for the 2014 recruits to enroll.
Yes, I am talking about seniors graduating in Spring 2014, but early enrollees would go on scholarship in Spring 2014, not the Fall. Technically, Michigan would have over 85 kids on scholarship during the Spring 2014 semester unless the graduating seniors didn't count toward the limit in their last semester.
I see. I believe it is permissible to exceed the 85-scholarship limit during the off-season, so long as the team can show how it will get down to 85 by the fall. In fact, I believe M had more than 85 on scholarship this spring, due to a number of early enrollees.
The BIG only allows 3 post dated scholarships
Do graduating seniors who do not participate in spring football still count toward the 85 scholarship limit? Most of them will still be in school in their last semester and assuming still on scholarship, but they will no longer be working with the team.
I think Mone is going to surprise a lot of people with how good he becomes. We haven't heard a lot since he committed, and perhaps part of that is because he lives in Utah, but I have friends who live in Salt Lake City who have seen him play who absolutely RAVE about what a beast this kid is.
Anyway, that would be great if Mone enrolls early. In fact, that list the OP included is one NICE early enrollee list!
hard to be a sleeper when you are the number 72 aggregrate player, but yeah people don;t talk about him nearly enough here.
Yeah, but you get my point. Maybe the word sleeper isn't the right word, but I think that with all of the success this coaching staff is having with recruiting, some people are maybe not as appreciative of some of the commits we have already landed, and are quickly moving on to the next recruit. I'm guilty of it too.
Bottom line- Mone is a beast. I can't wait to see our Defense over the next few years!
Mone is getting overlooked because he committed before any rankings were out with zero fanfare and we've heard almost nothing since. Not a bad thing, just considering that he's the #72 composite guy, he's had a spectacularly quiet commitment so far
Mone is a monster. Anyone sleeping on him should stop immediately.
I agree. Sleeping on someone is not very comfortable for them.
Let's hope he can enroll early. I've heard a lot of great things about him, and that supposedly the only reason he's not higher on the recruit rankings and a consensus top-100 guy is that he's in Utah and isn't much of a camp guy.
But if he's good enough for Hoke, he's good enough for me.
That's one hell of an early enrollees list!
Any permutation and combination of 5 recruits from the 2014 class will be one hell of an early enrollees list.
There's 462 combinations actually (since order doesn't matter) #BOOM MATH'D
He's gonna be a beast IMO. People seem to only talk about Hand, McDowell and Marshall. I'm no expert but I truly believe Mone will be an absolute monster !!
What about Kyle Bosch???
He is more of a Grey Goose monster instead of an Absolute beast.
Very Clever Sir !
I understand why the M coaches always sing the following refrain: the early enrollees should be going to their proms instead of enrolling early. My 18 year old sons just graduated Thursday from their high school. Besides prom, they had award programs, and a huge number of end-of-high-school events and parties. It was a time for them to say goodby and make the emotional transition to life after high school. Sure, except for their AP courses, the semester was a bust academically. On the whole, they would not been better off had they enrolled early in their chosen majors.
Of course, my sons are not elite athletes competing for playing time at the next level. However, the edge one obtains by enrolling early will not be the decisive factor in football success over a span of 4 or 5 years of college ball. I guess the bottom line should be the academic question for each kid-- will their academic success (while simultaneously playing football) be enhanced by their early enrollment? If there is a significant benefit, then a decision to early enroll should be considered.
I was desperate to get out of high school by my senior year, so I'm probably biased. That said, I really think prom and all that other stuff was seriously overrated. I've never put that much stock in ceremony or ritual. Instead, I enjoyed getting there and finding the next thing.
It's a personal decision, but academics isn't the only factor. Personality and goals are also important.
"I was desperate to get out of high school by my senior year"
This right here. I checked out mentally after the first couple of months of my senior year. Second semester was an absolute joke. Explaining the drop in grades to a counselor at Purdue when I transferred from GMI was entertaining, to say the least.
If I had the option to graduate early from high school, I definitely would have done it. Especially because I didn't really get a "last" summer with my friends. I had to be in Flint by July 4th to move into the dorm, so I only got about three weeks with all of my friends.
You make good points and for some people you may be right.
I wish I would have enrolled early as it likely would have helped me get a lot more comfortable with the culture of my team and it would have made my summer workouts ten times more productive as I would have had much better understanding what the summer was preparing us for.
I agree with a few people above. I'm also no expect, but from the highlights I watched and the analysis from the recruiting sites on Mone, he may be my favorite prospect this year (ok jabrill being jabrill aside). I feel as though he is very underrated. Somebody mentioned him as a comparable to Haloti Ngata. I'm not sure if his ceiling is that high, but he does seem vastly underrated from what I've seen. And I'm waiting for the next dominant Michigan NT.
Talk about forgetting recruits. It seems as if after one year of Pipkins not being what people expected him to be that he isn't talked about as much as he should. I feel he will have a strong year this year.
By the time Pipkins graduates he will be drafted in the first 2 rounds. A Freshmen seeing the field is never ideal but I think he held his own especially against the first half of our schedule. At 18 these kids are far from physically mature.
I'm not saying I was personally disappointed because obviously he was a true freshmen but most people around here were expecting Pipkins to come in and win the starting job his first season.
the highlight from spring practice when he went head-to-head with bosch (i think) and stuck the RB in the backfield was really encouraging.
i don't think that was a fair statement man. it's not realistic to expect true freshmen linemen to come in and dominate in the trenches.
I don't think anyone forgot about PeeWee, but kids already in the team are way less interesting than potential recruits in the offseason
Yes, it is why the Lions backup QB has traditionally been the most exciting player on the team (excl Stafford era and when Barry was around). What we have not seen on the field but conceptualize/dream about is always way more exciting than what we already. Or its grass is always greener idealizing. A lot of the kids we fawn over during this period won't see the field until 2015+.
"...Pipkins not being what people expected him"
Why do you think that? Did people expect an 18 year old to show up and be a NFL 1st rounder? All these lineman need time to develop - even if they are in a man's body already. Look at the difference in Lewan in 2010 versus 2013. There are positions where a kid can make an immediate impact but usually those are not on the lines - those are grown men battling down there (21-22 year olds) and the 18-19 year olds, no matter what size they come in are going to get a dose of reality. Especially since most of them so dominated their HS competition and this is the first time they are playing people as strong or stronger than them.
The fact he got playing time as a frosh tells me the coaches though very highly of him (and of course we were relatively thin at the position).
Lewan showed up NFL ready, just look.
Mone looks stout against the run and he gets push....... Please and thank you.
Is supposed to be an EE as well
He's already stated that, while he would like to, the likelihood of his school allowing him to graduate early is virtually nil. I believe it has something to do with Paramus being a Catholic high school.
Last I'd heard he wasn't an EE.
EDIT: unless you meant "Peppers is going to be EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE," in which case you are right.
I bet he meant Peppers is going to be an Exemplar of Elocution, which makes sense given his prodigious lyrical talents.
Thought that meant Peppers was heading to Electrical Engineering. But that's from too much time on north campus back in the 90s...
I don't think so, I'm pretty sure his school wouldn't allow that.
It's his decision, of course, but it probably won't make a difference on when he sees the field. We have substantial depth in front of him, and linemen always need a redshirt year. Even if they don't "need" one they have the largest strides to make to be competitive from high school football to B1G trench warfare, while backfield players (like running backs, receivers, corners, and safeties) have a much shorter adjustment period, and can usually make a significant contribution, or even start, right away.
While nearly all of our OL redshirt, that's not true for the DL. I think at least one DL has played as a true freshman for a number of years running.
Am glad to hear. Hes my favorite recruit in the class and thought he may stay out west.
Slightly OT but does anyone know if Mone is a Mormon? If he is, I wonder if he would take his mission during college. I was surprised that Te'o did not.
NOTE: I hope this doesn't offend or come off as "profiling" but I figured the chances are pretty good seeing as he is a Polynesian living in Utah.
a Methodist minister - but I guess he could convert or just become a missionary. Suspect opposing QBs might pray for a mission.
Mone won't be converting to Mormonism.
He was born a snake handler and he'll die a snake handler!
Is Jabril Peppers planning on enrolling early?
Mone might be the sleeper in this class defensively. In other recruiting news according to Allen Trieu of Scout, Alabama has offered Damon Webb.
There might be some mutual interest...Bama has a pretty good APR.
since his sole focus seems to be winnng (he and his dad seem to alway tweets "come to OSU if you want to win"), bama might be a good fit.
Bama likes physical corners, so the offer makes sense. I doubt it will happen because the kid and his father kept mentioning depth chart as a big reason they liked Ohio over Michigan. If they are scared of competition, then Bama is the last place to go.
If he's got his mind set on the NFL, then Bama would be a better choice.
This kid is all business. Love him.