the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
Bruce Hooley laid it out on OSU on ESPN OTL
August 8th, 2011 at 4:11 PM
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Bruce Hooley laid it out on OSU on ESPN OTL
I don't know how many people caught Hooley and Pat Forde on OTL today talking about what has happened at OSU and what punishment they should/will recieve. Hooley blasted OSU and their fanbase for not seeing what the big deal is about everything that has been going on in cowtown. Also he did mention that OSU is still being investaged by the NCAA for "other" infractions.
August 8th, 2011 at 4:15 PM | 
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
August 8th, 2011 at 5:38 PM |
Hooley added a great point on
Hooley added a great point on
Hooley added a great point on how this would affect all of college football.
Hooley said he believed the NCAA wants to send a message that coaches shouldn't decide to cheat because they weighed the risk and reward of cheating and the reward comes out on top. Therefore they need to send a message with a meaningful punishment.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
August 8th, 2011 at 5:55 PM |
I reported this
I reported this
last week at you all said it was old news and yadda yadda....it even got deleted...I knew there was another story coming up...im telling ya'll ohio is gonna get slammed here, no doubt about it 
"The team..The team...The team"
August 8th, 2011 at 6:32 PM |
You reposted an article from
You reposted an article from
You reposted an article from June...
Go Blue!
August 8th, 2011 at 6:50 PM |
You should complain about
You should complain about
You should complain about your under appreciated effort more, it will certainly win you support on the mgoboard.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
August 8th, 2011 at 4:16 PM |
Link or it never happened.
Link or it never happened.
Link or it never happened.
August 8th, 2011 at 4:38 PM |
Sorry about no link but
Sorry about no link but
For some reason my links never work from this iPod I'm on.
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August 8th, 2011 at 4:42 PM |
No worries man, I'm just
No worries man, I'm just
No worries man, I'm just trying to cover up the fact that I'm too lazy to go find the article myself.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:17 PM |
Another reason iPads are
Another reason iPads are
Another reason iPads are worthless.
August 8th, 2011 at 4:22 PM |
Well I'm just glad that the
Well I'm just glad that the
Well I'm just glad that the NCAA reportedly aren't done with their complete investigation into the entire program. This news has restored a small amount of hope in the NCAA.
Me fail english thats unpossible!
August 8th, 2011 at 9:58 PM |
Thank goodness! I'm still not
Thank goodness! I'm still not
Thank goodness! I'm still not convinced on the NCAA's willingness to dish out a just punishment, but this gives me a little more hope.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
August 8th, 2011 at 5:19 PM |
Hooley isn't like Rosenpuke at all
Hooley isn't like Rosenpuke at all
Hooley got fired from his radio show for reporting on the situation, but they pissed off someone who still has an outlet. Rosenpuke abused his position, lied to 17-18 year-olds to get his story, and used a shitty MSM outlet to further his personal agenda.
THE Ohio State University created Hooley's fervor by having his radio station fire him. Rosenpuke created his own fervor, probably with his right hand.
August 8th, 2011 at 4:33 PM |
Want consistency from NCAA
Want consistency from NCAA
It seems the NCAA is too capricious in how penalties are handed out. Just be fair.
I also am irked that Ohio doesn't seem to take their infractions very seriously. If I read another post about how "everybody does it" or how "unfair" things were for Pryor, or how people like Pryor and Mo Clarett and others DESERVE to be treated differently (i.e., favored,) or how players should be paid, I think I'm going to scream.
"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi
August 8th, 2011 at 4:57 PM |
Agreed
Agreed
The story I can't seem to get away from fast enough is how it was all just Pryor and it's just so damn unfair that their beloved coach was taken down by one of the very players he was trying to protect. Even just writting that last little bit made me vomit in my mouth a little.
August 8th, 2011 at 4:51 PM |
link from today?
link from today?
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=6844818&callsign=ESPNRADIO&autoplay=1
vid:
http://search.espn.go.com/otl/
Nothing on Hooley and Pat Forde.
Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.
August 8th, 2011 at 5:01 PM |
The only video I find is the
The only video I find is the
The only video I find is the one with Tom Farrey...
August 8th, 2011 at 5:06 PM |
This was a great segment,
This was a great segment,
This was a great segment, Hooley and Forde were absolutely ripping into tsio, making some great points about how Tressel and the coaching staff knowingly went out and recruited, holding off on what amounted to a BS review of the allegations until the day after national signing day.
I was surprised that Forde didn't believe there would be any scholarship reductions because none of tsio's violations were related to recruiting.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
August 8th, 2011 at 5:15 PM |
Yeah I agree, Pat Forde lost me on
Yeah I agree, Pat Forde lost me on
the no loss of schollies because it didn't envolve recruiting but the USC case didn't either and they lost 30!
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August 8th, 2011 at 5:36 PM |
Exactly. I guess Forde kind
Exactly. I guess Forde kind
Exactly. I guess Forde kind of hedged his statement, saying something to the effect of "Based on my understanding of NCAA regulations, there won't be an scholarship losses, but my understanding of those NCAA regulations can be shaky."
I hope he is wrong on that, scholarship losses and a bowl ban should be the minimum.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
August 8th, 2011 at 5:21 PM |
Anyone have a summary/link to
Anyone have a summary/link to
Anyone have a summary/link to what Forde and Hooley actually said? The Farrey piece was just recycling old ESPN clips about OSU. I'm more curious about the details around the NCAA still investigating OSU, and watching them get hammered (and not the good kind of hammered, like what I'll be doing later tonight).
August 8th, 2011 at 5:24 PM |
Very well done segment on ESPN
Very well done segment on ESPN
The NCAA needs to get Andy Geiger in for an extensive interview if they haven't already. Listening "between the lines" it sounds like Geiger ran a relatively tight ship, asked questions, and was not welcome any more at TSIO. Of course, he was then replaced by the stooge Gene Smith. But from what Geiger has had to say, lack of institutional control and failure to monitor was exactly what was going on. They can't lay this all on Tressel.
"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans! Now go out there and make it happen!"
- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)
August 8th, 2011 at 5:28 PM |
http://www.waitingfornextyear
http://www.waitingfornextyear
August 8th, 2011 at 8:18 PM |
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LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | @MGoShoe
August 8th, 2011 at 9:55 PM |
Is that it?
Is that it?
It sounded like there was another part to that. Was that only one segment of a larger piece?
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
August 8th, 2011 at 10:00 PM |
There was another section
There was another section
There was another section after that piece (the interview with Hooley and Forde).
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
August 8th, 2011 at 5:28 PM |
Small summary
Small summary
OSU takes everything lightly and doesn't act untill they are forced too. The school and fanbase still love Tress and act like he did nothing wrong. The rest of the country(including other coaches) now see what a "cheat" Tress really is/was. They should get hammered and they are still being investigated for the loaner cars and other things. Hopes this help some.
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August 8th, 2011 at 5:32 PM |
What's up?
What's up?
Nowhere in this thread is there any link to Hooley and/or Forde saying anything about tSIO as the OP claims. The OTL video is not new and is done by Tom Farey. It wasn't posted today nor does it present any new info...
August 8th, 2011 at 5:57 PM |
Cant be that old
Cant be that old
That talk about the OSU hearing that's coming up THIS Friday.
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August 8th, 2011 at 6:10 PM |
THE hearing for THE Ohio
THE hearing for THE Ohio
THE hearing for THE Ohio State University THIS Friday. THE articles in ALL sentences should always be written with THE CAPS Lock key engagED.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
August 8th, 2011 at 5:37 PM |
I hope they put it up soon
I hope they put it up soon
I'm sure they will put the video on their site eventually. I am encouraged that the NCAA is still investigating THE Ohio State University. We may yet get our wish for sanctions that fit the scandal.
August 8th, 2011 at 7:52 PM |
Sounds a little like this:
Sounds a little like this:
"Honey, I know I cheated on you, but when you found out it caused my girlfriend to dump me, so we're basically even..."
Go Blue!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:02 PM |
Officer, I know I robbed
Officer, I know I robbed
Officer, I know I robbed banks but I gave the money back and no longer claim to have robbed any banks during the 2010 season so we're cool right?
This might be arrogant, and if it is, it is, but we're Michigan
August 8th, 2011 at 9:41 PM |
Well......
Well......
I'd say it'd be a sufficient punishment IF:
- Tressel never lied about it
- Tressel didn't have a history of NCAA violations (secondary)
- There weren't similar occurrences by other players under Tressel throughout his career (Ray Isaacs, Troy Smith)
- It wasn't obvious that OSU overlooked alot going on with the football program
For a' that, an' a' that,
Our toils obscure an' a' that,
The rank is but the guinea's stamp,
The man's the gowd for a' that.
Our toils obscure an' a' that,
The rank is but the guinea's stamp,
The man's the gowd for a' that.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:16 PM |
Not tough enough. People seem
Not tough enough. People seem
Not tough enough. People seem to think it's okay to let them off the hook just because Pryor and Tressel are gone.
They need a penalty equivalent to that of USC. Period. There's no other explanation. Postseason ban. Just because you pretend last season doesn't happen doesn't mean you can excuse cheating like this.
If the NCAA turns a blind eye, they're a total sham of a body.
August 9th, 2011 at 12:14 AM |
You are a very leniant person then
You are a very leniant person then
If that's a hard hammer, then what do you call what USC got?
Tressel being let go was an inevitability, but it should not be a substitute for real NCAA punishment like scholarship reductions or postseason bans. OSU fricking played an entire season with ineligible players on the field! I don't care who's responsible, the football program deserves harsh punishment for that alone...even IF it's only Tressel's fault...well, he was the one employed in a position of power, his actions represent his university, and if he did something wrong not only is he punished but the university he represented should be punished. I mean, if only for the fact that there was clearly inadequate oversight on the coach and his program (backed up by the dumb "i hope he doesn't fire me!" line that Gee sputtered).
I'm not a lunatic. Seriously, i'm not.
Ok, maybe just a little bit.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:37 PM |
The OSU fanbase keeps playing
The OSU fanbase keeps playing
The OSU fanbase keeps playing victim to ESPN "bad journalism". Sick and tired of it. I know ESPN is a despicable journalistic institution, but OSU really should receive more scrutiny and punishment for their actions.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:39 PM |
the funny thing is
the funny thing is
If you go over to 11W they act like its all over. I even saw a commment today predicting that they would win the NC. It reminds me of this scene from Back to School:
Dr Barbay ...now, not withstanding Mr. Melon's input. The next question for us is where to build our factory?
Thornton Melon: how 'bout fantasyland?
edited: The Laugavulin is not helping my spelling.
And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!
August 9th, 2011 at 9:41 AM |
My biggest issue with the
My biggest issue with the
My biggest issue with the whole case is the plain flat out lying to the NCAA to let the Tat 5 play in the bowl game and it worked (b/c the NCAA saw the $$ going down the tube if they didnt) but my god that is straight up smacking the NCAA in the face and at this point they have still are like like oh no big.
Blue is Faster
August 9th, 2011 at 11:46 AM |
The head coach lied
The head coach lied
The head coach lied repeatedly and knowingly played ineligible players to the tune of a Big10 title and BCS game. If that doesn't warrant something more than vacated wins and a resignation, er retirement, then the NCAA has been hoodwinked by their long-time friend Gene Smith.
It's also funny to read OSU fans take on the Stonum situation. They honestly feel Hoke took the easy way out on Stonum and in fact did him and the program a favor. They are criticizing Hoke for his lack of real discipline yet feel Tressel WAY overpaid for his little white lie.
Irony can be pretty ironic.
"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
August 9th, 2011 at 5:05 PM |
The decision the NCAA makes
The decision the NCAA makes
The decision the NCAA makes regarding this sends a message to the entire college football system. If they come down hard it sets the tone for the future. If they let Ohio State deal with it itself, then what does that say about the NCAA's willingness to deal with cheating?
They both laid a pretty solid case on why OSU should get hammered.
Despite what the other guy calls himself, my name actually is Magnus.