Even if Ojemudia commits, it might not matter with Burbridge. He reportedly doesn't have the grades to get into UM. Either way, it could still be a big weekend without Burbridge.
Brionte Dunn visiting this weekend
Can everyone stop with the grades thing. Grades are mentioned everytime this kids name comes up, its embarrassing. Plus, he has an entire year before graduation, nothing has been determined yet.
If it is a serious concern, why not bring it up? After RichRod brought in several kids who couldn't qualify, I would like to get back to recruiting "sure things" when it comes to grades. I don't like missing out on other recruits by chasing a kid that may not even qualify. It brings back bad memories of the Dorsey/Parker fiasco.
I feel like grades are a private matter. When a final determination is made as to whether he qualifies, then it might be news. Until then, I think he should have some privacy regarding his grades.
the grade issues have been described as being not that different from Thomas Rawls's. Obviously no one knows the real situation, but Michigan isn't completely unwilling to take borderline academic guys as long as they're actually qualified.
Who are you talking about? The only Parker was Sean Parker and he was an EE at Washington.
that Sean Parker was essentially going to Michigan until a last moment change of heart. (Sam Webb had even offered up his "gut feeling")
If he enrolled early, then Washington's semester starts really late. Parker changed his choice at the very last minute.
He changed "really late" only relative to his decision timeline. He committed to Washington around Christmas and enrolled early in Seattle.
Michigan fans thought they were going to get Parker up until the even of National Signing Day, and Rivals says he committed to UW on February 3, 2010.
Wow, you're totally right. I have no idea how I remembered that so poorly.
Here's my response to that in the other thread:
I added a reference to your post in my OP. Didn't mean to report twice on the FHH players.
do you have a sense of whether Dunn's interest is real? Or do you think he's just looking for backup plans in case the Vest gets the axe?
Yes, his interest is very real. His dad is very interested in what happens with the NCAA stuff, but has said the Michigan coaches have been recruiting him very hard.
I actually just talked to his dad to confirm this and they will be up there on Friday for the day.
If Burbridge commits with the other two the first place I'm going is RCMB (just to watch, not participate).
It will be great entertainment to patrol the RCMB if the other two FHH guys committ. I can't wait!
Btw, how good is this Burbridge kid? I haven't really heard much of him until lately.
He's a four star on scout. Either he or Ross are thought to be the top in-state prospect.
Probably be the best WR we get. Him or Stanford. I don't think we are landing Diggs.
Jenkins-Stone is up there, too.
Magnus, do you know when the Rivals rankings come out? I have been curious about where the current commits will be in their system.
Their Top 100 on Monday, Top 250 on Tuesday.
Thanks to both of you for the response. I'm looking forward to their rankings.
i saw a tweet yesterday from one of the rivals writers saying that their top 100 will be out monday, top 250 tues/wed, and all the 4 stars will be assigned by late next week as well.
i dont remember EXACTLY what he said, but i believe his tag name was "keithrivals" or something similar
He might be the top WR in the state. I'm not sure about Efe Scott-Emukapor but he is Rivals 250 watch guy. At this time he has no offer which is strange for a guy that might be in the top 250.
Burbridge looks like the real deal - Fred Jackson would say: "He's kinda like Mario Manningham but faster and much more physical"..... and I would agree. Check it out:
I'm sold. After watching only the first few minutes of the video I was really impressed. Certain guys are good return men and some are REALLY good. He looks like the latter. He adjusts really well to the ball and makes some difficult catches. If Tom says not to put too much into his grades, then I'm sold for sure.
Yeah, Burbridge would be a huge get if he can stick for Michigan. We really could use an impact wide out with Stones, Hemmingway, and Odoms due to graduate. I think Burbridge could possibly step in right away and make an impact for senior Denard. I would love to have this kid on the team if he can qualify. If he can't, I hate that we put guys who we put in the position to join, but fail. I hope he can make it.
You can have a DE and an RB commit together?
Blasphemy! Wormley's going to commit with Ojemudia, Dunn's going to commit with Keith Marshall, and then Burbridge is going to commit with Dorial Green-Beckham.
Red eye laserz. Do not like. Change to maize eye laserz.
so pike and kiel are a package??
Ha I'm surprised this is the first joke I've read about this "combo package" of Pike and Kiel. I did actually laugh out loud when I read it though. Nice one.
"And the recruits went two by two unto the Program, each with their kind. So sayeth the Hoke."
So sayeth the flock!
So let it be done."
Hoke pointing at naked Denard classical painting style yet...
nobody has mentioned this yet. We have made note that our recruits have been commiting in pairs: 2 OL, 2 LB, 2 TE, and 2 MOAR LB. But has anyone noticed that in each set of 2, there is one from Michigan and one from Ohio, leaving us with a perfect 1:1 ratio between the two states?
I always knew Green-Beckham was the silent commit....even though he plays offense.
I think all the hype around Green-Beckham is funny considering he hasn't even played a single down of college football yet.
Hahaha you hit it on the head.
"I think the hype over (Insert 2012 recruit name here) is funny considering he hasn't played a down in college football" is probably applicable to most of the recruits we're talking about here on the MGoInterwebs...
I think all the hype around Green-Beckham is funny considering he hasn't even played a single down of college football yet.
Things that take your breath away
(1) A beautiful woman
(2) getting sucker punched by a middle linebacker
(3) Michigan's football recruitng season so far this year
regardless of whether they are offense or defense or one of each meet my approval as long as they continue to be 4* or higher.
It's a 3-star in which case he is extremely underrated, considered a "high 3 star," and deserved to be a 4 star.
Dantonio has to be freaking out. So much success last year and they are getting absolutly killed with the instate recruting. Come on Dunn you know you want to be BLUE!!!!!
Getting Dunn would be an unqualified success by Hoke and company. Seriously, he is taking up just about all of the in-state talent - huge gain for us and a direct strike at Sparty.
This weekend could be huge.
Dunn is from ohio and U of M is in Michigan? Dunn is not instate.
Fine one of the top recruits in Michigan and ohio.
Done and Dunn.
I think he was talking about two different things there. I'm not sure though.
I am aware that Dunn is from Ohio. And, I get that Ohio is a separate state from Michigan. I could have been clearer, but I was really making two separate and somewhat unrelated statements:
Statement 1: Dunn would be a good get.
Statement 2: We are cleaning up on in-state recruiting which is a blow to MSU.
However, I must admit, that I do consider "in-state" to include Ohio despite the fact that it is, in fact, its own state. There are several power schools in Ohio that are geographically closer to Michigan and which have been considere Michigan pipelines.
Interesting that he committed to tosu way back in September--and that other than a generic 3 star receiver, no one has committed to tosu since the Tressel scandal broke. As Tatgate drags on and other buckeye targets hesitate to commit, this could turn into a truly mediocre recruiting year for Tressel. If a star like Dunn should switch, that can only exacerbate the situation for Tressel with other recruits.
I believe at least one has committed since and that is Frank Epitropoulos, a 3* WR.
Edit: I apologize I read your post wrong. I believe you are correct then.
He is a legacy recruit that was going to commit anyways. That just goes to show that the scandal might be affecting the recruits. Also at the same time it is too early to tell.
This thread of comments regarding Tatgate affecting OSU commits is very similar to what Duane Long has been writing about...
I enjoy reading his stuff from time to time. It keeps me up to date on what the enemy is up to. He also has good information regarding prospects from ohio.
OSU is also very differenty with their recruiting strategy. They are very selective at first, especially this year with their low number of scholarships available. As guys begin to fall, they begin to send out more offers. UM on the other hand seem to have sent out an offer to every top prospect in the midwest and a large number nationwide and is seeing who is biting.
That could also be the reason that it seems as though we're stealing him from tOSU. Well, other than that we sort of are, since he's committed. But, Hoke&Co. weren't even there back when he committed to tOSU. So I'm sure he heard from RR and clearly preferred tOSU, but enter Hoke (and possibly more importantly interms of recruiting, Mattison) and the message to Bri'Onte changes. Who can blame him for listening to the new coaches, and who can blame him for liking what he hears? The status quo changed with the hiring. I'm not going to say that the imminent NCAA sanctions don't weigh in as a factor, but I honestly wonder how much of Dunn's interest is legit because of the coaches and recruiting pitch, vs. the possible threat to tOSU. I think that if we can get him on campus, there's a good chance we can get him to flip even before the hammer hits OSU. Or at least, that's what I'm hoping.
I've never heard him mention this, but it seems pretty likely to me that the difference in depth charts at OSU and Michigan will play a roll in his recruitment (not that that issue alone will sway him). Both have a lot of RBs, but OSU's were much more highly ranked. The redshirt freshman RB Rod Smith is supposed to be their next star.
This could well end up being a perfect storm for our Midwestern recruiting. this is obvioulsy a huge year for Midwest recruiting with a real bumper crop of talent in the region. We are OWNING the state in respect to head to head competition with Sparty.
As for OHIO . . . here is where it gets interesting.
1. They already have lower scholarships to use in this year of much talent.
2. RR and staff leave and with them their affinity of recruiting out of the Midwset.
3. Hoke comes to AA and re-establishes a Midwestern recruiting focus stating that he will concentrate his efforts in Mich and Ohio.
4. Enter Tressel-Gate and all the problems associated with it. Many OSU leans may rethink investing their skills into a university primed for NCAA Armagedon
5. Due to a multitude of factors the DL and LB position is one of the most needed in AA
6. The 4-star Mafia of LB's decides early on Mich. 2 from the state of Ohio and 1 from Mich that had an Ohio offer.
7. As for the DL there is probably no position more rich in talent this year than DL when it comes to the Midwest. Again enter the extreme need of UM at the postion, and not surprisingly UM could forseeably take up to 6 from the likes of Washington, Pittman, Ojemudia, Strobel, Brown, Wormley, McMullen, among others.
With Dunn now visiting this plants the seed of doubt in other OSU leaning players. All we need is several more high profile visits and watch the fire storm begin baby!!!
To this nice list I would only add:
This softens DMo's departure.
With all the positive news regarding Hoke, Mattison, etc we must have a shot(legitimate) with every recruit.
What is there not to like?
I am pumped about this. Snagging Dunn away from OSU would top any of RRs snake-oil machinations. Add the FHH trio coming in this weekend, and this could be an excellent weekend for recruiting. Please put these three in a room together and drop off a list of current commits entitled "Mega Class". I think they'll see the writing on the wall.
Based on stars I would agree. Although, if Roundtree can reduce his drops this year and stick with his production I would hedge on the proven college player.
Excellent news...I'm hoping to hear some good things from this weekend. Dunn is obviously the big fish, but DE/WR combo from FHH would be very nice as well...Especially considering they're both very talented kids. Makes it much, much sweeter that they grew up sparty fans & are from FHH.
GO BLUE...F*** msu/osu
Right, and it would take the pressure of recruiting the WR/DE combo of Stanford and Washington even if they both *like* Michigan. It's not as big a loss if they go another way.
Can we go from getting same-position recruits two-by-two to getting DE/WR combos two-by-two?
i cant start my own thread, and i havent seen this anywhere else, but I just saw a tweet from wiltfong over at 247 saying Mich offered a 4* DT from illinois.
article is behind a paywall, so anybody know who this is?
Would prefer Jaleel White... but Johnson is pretty good, too.
you are referring, good sir, to Keenan Thompson. Formerly of All That, Keenan and Kel, and Good Burger in addition to his current gig on SNL.
as a child of the 90's, i can proudly say that Keenan Thompson was an integral part of my comedic upbringing, thanks to Nickelodeon
Jaleel is my favorite DT to be honest just from seeing his combine film. He demolished Jordan Diamond and company. I'm glad he finally got an offer. If other players are ahead of him (Godin, since he's instate, and O'Brien, since he's a boss), so be it. But I think Johnson would be a nice player for Michigan. He's a go getter.
On a side note of Brionte Dunn and other Ohio recruits do we think at this point the longer OSU goes on wondering what its penalty will be is more beneficial then when the actual penalty comes out?
It all depends. I personally want to hear the punishment right away. For recruiting I'm not sure which situation is better.
On one hand if the recruits hear the punishment or if jt gets fired now, it might sway kids like Dunn in our facor. On the other hand if it drags out, we can get in on kids that might be waiting for the ruling to come out.
The best thing that could happen for Michigan in terms of "Tatgate" would to have this thing drag along for a while. The unkown is almost always scarier than the known.
Lets say the sanctions come out and Ohio State has a 1 year bowl ban, last season vacated, some scholarships lost for a year or two, and lose a TV game, the recruits can decide whether they negatives outway the positives and some might decide they don't and go to OSU.
But if it just lingers out there and they hear that those might be the sanctions, but then hear also that it could go up to a 2 year bowl ban, losing multiple TV games etc., than the fear of what could be will drive the recruits away from OUS and hopefully towards us.
It would also help if Tressel were to stay around for the next year. The longer he stays, the longer the negative stigma stays around OSU. If he stays, than that might lead some concerned recruits and parents of recruits to think OSU values football over everything else including the well being of their kids, and drive them away. It helps even more if he struggles. Ideally, he stays through the start of the next recrutitng season and puts OSU in a huge hole there. Eventually, I want him gone though, because we just can't beat him.
Overall, lingering=good. I want to here the sanctions as much as everyone else, but the longer it takes, the better.
I am curious what people's thoughts are on comparing Dunn with other high school backs? As a NE ohio guy I think Chris Wells. I see some simalarities, but I think Wells was quicker in and out of his cuts. Dunn's running style, while upright at times, is impressive. They both have good straight line speed and the ability to punish defensive backs. Dunn's competition is much stronger. He is a gifted young man and I hope he has a good visit this weekend and gets any answers to his questions he may have.
Second question, can anyone remember the last time Michigan got a verbal commit to switch from columbus? I don't know the answer, but I love the possibility.
So this may be pretty well known but I was wondering what constitutes the difference between an unofficial and official vist for recruits. If you are on an unofficial visit is the school allowed to pay for anything or is that a NCAA violation? Likewise, what is the extent in expenses that a school can cover on an official visit? Travel? Meals? Is there a limit to these? Just curious.
I agree with the post above as far as TAT-Gate dragging on for as long as possible. For the sake of pure curiousity I would love to know just what will befall our rival to South. However, there is nothing worse in a recruits mind than not knowing what all is going to happen with the current situation. The longer the this goes without some closure the better it is with us. Ohio blogger Dwayne Long references this very thing in one of his latest posts.
We need this one!!!! Pull out the Red(Blue) carpet!!
All I know is that the NCAA allows only 5 official visits in which the university can foot the bill. Unofficial are limitless as the student and family (not recruiting service like Oregon) are responsible for expenses.
It'll be the same, just not the same position.
This weekend ... we're going with -- SAME SCHOOL.