I agree with Brian that we could certainly have the best group of starting linemen in the conference. Just please stay healthy guys!
Brian and TomVH in NYC - a review
It's close with Wisconsin as both have a hole to fill. Phil Steele thinks Dan Voltz is starting for UW at guard. Michigan State would also be up there, at least before the news on Treadwell came out. Now, they got a hole in the interior.
Michigan wins hands down on the tackles; I don't see anyone slated at right tackle in the B1G I'd rather have than Schofield.
An interesting team in a year or 2 will be Minnesota. I think they're scheduled to start 4 sophomores (or something like that).
No way on Sparty. Just because you return a bunch of starters doesn't make a unit good. Their OL was pretty bad last year, and although they return four of five starters, the one they lost was their best. I expect it to be better than last year (with Treadwell) but not one of the best in the conference.
If Treadwell is still out for our game, which seems unlikely, they will have a tough time with us.
Word on MSU. They were a good team because of their defense. They were a run first team that was 78th in the nation running the ball.
MSU was reminiscent of some of the later Carr teams. They insisted on being a run-first team despite clearly being better at passing than running. They needed Cousins to convert a lot of 3rd and longs. I think they're going to miss him.
Agreed, and not just Cousins. The relied on Keyshawn Martin making something out of nothing or BJ Cunnngham out muscling DBs for third down conversions. Without those three they'll have a much tougher time.
SI decides to rank MSU above U of M...
That all sounds pretty good...I'm also glad to see Brian say that 9 wins is reasonable and that you agree. I've been a little worried that people are going to freak out if/when Michigan's 11-2 record of last year and '12-'13 recruiting success don't mean a ten-plus win season this year. This year's schedule is rough.
They should come to D.C. in the future. Huge alumni base who usually turns out for events like these.
Agreed, and you sound like just the guy to coordinate it!
Sure, I'd be happy to. Who should I contact? Brian, Seth, Lloyd Brady?
DC always packs events. And I live here. Come to DC next year, guys.
Come to LA! Tons of alumni here as well, and most of us miss out on a lot of the in-person stuff, so we get psyched about it when it happens. Plus, it's LA. You guys can go to the beach or your wives can see celebrities or something.
we got about 25 hardcore fans. and it's paradise!
I'll come talk out there.
...There are at least 4 1/2 fans here!
Plust, the homestead of the One Who Wears 21. (And the one who used to wear 20.)
To go to Ohio. Haven't loved too many of my trips there. How about we get a fund together for the whole Trotwood "Alumni Club" to come up here to Ann Arbor going?
I can't walk 2 city blocks in this town without seeing a Michigan shirt or a license plate with "Michigan Alumni" on it. If half the people who came to B-Bill's for game watching showed up to the event it would be a massive success.
Saw two people in Michigan gear at a Nationals game last weekend
Mattison keeping opposing offenses under wraps whatever the personnel shortages on D =
good good news.
Despite my own and others' trepidation about Alabama, I don't think we've got a lot to lose. A win by us kicks the season off memorably for the entire country and makes for stratospheric excitement here; a loss gets written off as expected.
Plus, the team will have measured themselves against the country's very best semi-professionals, carry the lessons into the rest of the season.
and maybe even ND, and win the B1G and get back to the Rose Bowl (at the least).
Appreciate the recap. I can't usually make Chicago Alumni Association Events due to my work schedule/other factors, but if they brought Brian in that'd be must-see. Instead they're bringing Gerry Dinardo to talk... which I will be missing.
I'll be around the Wrigley during weekend of the Alabama game. Any suggestions on a good place to watch the game?
The Michigan bars in that area are Moe's in Wrigleyville, Duffy's in Lincoln Park and Rockit Bar and Grill in River North. Duffy's and Rockit usually get pretty packed.
I would pay a good amount of money to be at Duffy's for the Bama game. It's by far the best place I've been to watch a game outside the Big House, and that's including Ann Arbor bars. Definitely a younger crowd, though.
Duffy's. Get there early.
Check out the map from this post. Duffy's isn't too far away and seems to be the most cited UM bar in town. For better or worse, it has a college atmosphere (packed with drunk young people and all the sights, sounds and odors they come with). Rockit is actually in Wrigleyville and although I haven't been there on game day it might be a little easier to find a seat and actually watch the game. Sorta depends what you're looking for.
rockit burger bar is right at wrigley. not far from wrigley is a great newer michigan bar "the diag"- they were jack's bar and grill and just renamed themselves "the diag" due to their michigan sponsorship. they even duplicated the block m from the diag in their beer garden patio. they typically have give aways as well. it's between diversey and wellington on southport about a mile south of wrigley and 1/4 mile west.
duffy's owners like to get michigan alumni money but don't give anything to ann arbor or the local alumni.
The Diag is another option: http://www.diagchicago.com/
Often events that the UM Club of Chicago runs will be held there. In fact, they will be running buses from The Diag to South Bend for the Mich-ND game on Sept 22: http://www.sportspowerweekends.com/support-michigan-on-the-road-against-...
Thanks for all the options. I know the Cubs are in town that weekend so it should be a good time that day.
did they also hire a translator?
IMO it was a poor job of planning by the NYC AA. The last few weeks in August (if not the whole month) is prime vacation time for Wall St. Unless they move the location to the Hamptons...you're simply not going to get a great turn out.
So you would prefer that they fly in Brian and Tom to preview the already started season in September? Or in June or July before camp has started, they don't have as much information and pre-season excitement/hype isn't as great? This was the third or fourth time Brian has come and I've been to each. They all were scheduled in August. The previous turnouts were better. While I don't expect people to schedule their vacations around this event, I seriously doubt that August vacations was the primary reason for the low turnout.
This would be intersting to find out why turnout was so low. I am on vacation in Vegas, so I am actually not in town. August is a fairly dead month in the city and most people I know are going on vacation this week. But, this event has been held in aug before, right?
i should probably refrain from jumping in on this convo, but what the hell here goes. we are of course aware that august is vacation time for alot of NY'ers. that said, it is a football kickoff event, and is usually held right before football season starts for a reason. as ish points out, if we did it in september the season has already started and previews are pointless. too early in the summer and the info wont be as useful/relevant since fall camp hasn't started.
event last night was about 100ppl, and to be honest i dont think previous crowds at the kickoff event were even that large.
exact timing of the event had to do with coordinating schedules and venue availability.
Hm. So all NYC alumni/ae work on Wall Street?
I learn something new every day.
OK, but really it's a bad time for a lot of people. It's one of the last weeks/weekends where the weather is nice, before football starts, and before kids start school, so it's a very popular time to travel.
But yes, a lot of UM alumni in NY work in finance.
You don't need the /ae, alumni refers to both genders.
Crap. Now it's TWO things for today, and I'll have to be super careful to avoid learning anything tomorrow.
I am sorry, I do.
To be honest, I think this is fairly true. I am a recent Michigan grad living in NYC and the other Michigan people here I know all have finance/consulting jobs. That's the reason they come to NYC; if you are looking for different types of jobs you probably wouldn't move to the most expensive city in the country. Not that I think this is cool or a good thing, I fucking hate NYC and the corporate atmosphere here for those of us working in those kind of jobs.
The other types of jobs here (retail/artsy/random stuff) seem to be all manned by people who graduated from good, but not great, schools which are regional to NYC, at least from my personal perspective. These are people who have basically lived in or near NYC their whole lives and love it. I'm assuming most of the Michigan people who do these jobs would just do it in Chicago/other Midwestern cities.
from Michigan and educated at Michigan, there are many of us in New York. But many of us in the arts rarely went to games because of our own extra-curricular commitments or simple lack of interest, and at least one of us is now living out what she missed in her collegiate youth.
Definetely not a job. I do not work in finance and transfered with my company from Chicago. After living there for five years, I LOVE Chicago and could spend my whole life there. I've been here over a year now and don't want to spend one more day in NYC. I miss Chicago. (sigh)
I hope the girl is working out. Chicago was a great town, I had alot of fun there and most of my friends from there, love it. I just found it to be sort of small. NYC can be too big and different at times. People get lost in the day to day.
That's what I loved about it. I would work downtown and come back to my neighborhood which was like a small town. There are millions of people in Chicago, but when you come home, people know your name. I loved that. I miss talking about B1G football with coworkers as there is only one person in my entire office that watched college football at all. He says he grew up with Mike Hart too.
I miss the clean streets and the fresh air. I miss the beautiful tree lined streets. I miss walks on the lakefront at night. Those things don't exist in NY. Living in NY is stressful as hell too.
Fortunately, the girl is working out. :)
There are millions of people in Chicago, but when you come home, people know your name.
You want to be where you can see,
Our troubles are all the same
You want to be where everybody knows your name.
You want to go where people know,
People are all the same,
You want to go where everybody knows...
I managed to make it out after a friend of mine notified me. It was great to hear in person all the great things I read on the blog. And have my questions answered.
And of course Great to see the heavyweights in Person!... Welcome to NYC TomVH. Glad you made it out!. And hope to see you both again soon!
BTW .... I was 2 #s away from winning the raffle! I think it was rigged!
Did Tom actually say "Hoke's magic poop"? Because if so, that would be awesome.
Have to disagree with you on your characterization of NYC alums. We've had really good turnout for a lot of events. In particular the coach series talk and the Desmond talk were completely packed and filled to the brim.
I personally didn't know of the event until earlier this week. I'm not sure I'd characterize the publicizing of the event as all that great. I'm sure an email or two were sent out, but I remember hearing about the Hoke/Desmond events well in advance.
I think there are a couple of factors that could explain the turnout:
- It wasn't as well publicized as other events have been. Like I said, I didn't know about it until Monday. It's possible that I just didn't read the emails sent out.
- Not sure where they had it this year, but the location the last time I went (at Brother Jimmy's) I thought was difficult for this event. Brian had his powerpoint and it was difficult seeing in the cramped backroom that everyone was in.
- A lot of the alums in NY are older and aren't familiar with MgoBlog or either or those guys. Yeah, obviously there are tons of new alums (just go to Prof. Thoms on a game Saturday), but a lot of the alums aren't recent grads. While myself and a lot of my friends are obsessed with all things Michigan, the majority of people I went to school with have no idea what Mgoblog is.
- The year I did go see Brian speak, he was going over his presentation and then having a Q&A. While I enjoyed myself, I remember being a bit disappointed in that I already new everything he was saying and his responses from reading the blog.
It is unfortunate that it wasn't better attended. Seems as though Brian and Tom were gracious enough to visit and it would have been great if more people had come out. I would have stopped by myself, if my schedule had permitted. However, it's a bit unfair to rush to judgment on this for the aforementioned reasons.
for Brian and Tom as for Hoke and Desmond, either. Give it a few more years.
i'm 34, so most of my friends also don't know much about mgoblog. but this isn't the first time this event has taken place, the advance notice and method of informing alums of the event was the same as has been used in the past, the event was at the same time of year as in the past, and yet the turnout was lower. there are thousands of NYC UM alums. i'm not judging anyone. i'm just disappointed that i saw only about 100 people. and i'm asking more people to go in the future so we can continue to support this terriffic event.
How many showed up in the past?
i'm not involved in the planning, so i don't have raw numbers. but i'd guess twice as many. maybe 200.
also, i think one time brian wore a suit. now he dresses as you would expect brian to dress.
I am sorry I missed it. I wil clear next Aug. It just seems that many families plan vacation for kids this week. But that really is no reason at all. Although, Wall Street is gearing up for another round of layoffs. That may be a worry.
I live in NYC, am an alum, AND am on this blog mostly everyday and this is the first time I've heard of it. Keep in mind, I don't read every single thread either (especially for the sole purpose of writing a comment, like some people here...(you know who you are...))
Let the judging commence!!!
info was posted on mgoblog earlier this week, but that was also the day of the mgobrownout.... perhap start following the club on twitter? https://twitter.com/UMichAlumsNYC you can also visit http://nyc.umclubs.com/ to sign up for the weekly emails which will make sure you hear about all upcoming events. can also like 'em on facebook too...www.facebook.com/umalumniclubofnyc
there's always next year... no doubt brian and tom will be back in town.
The GF wants me to start doing alum events but when it comes time to watch games, I'd rather watch the important ones at home. That way I can control the volume, the bathroom, and if need be, cry with dignity.
and I assumed that had to do with Brian's surgery. Although the turn-out was lighter than previous years, I thought it was a very nice-sized crowd. And I selfishly preferred it, because I could actually hear what Brian & Tom had to say. The vast crowd at Brother Jimmy's a couple years ago had so many people there for meeting and mingling and clinking glasses and food platters, that we die-hard info geeks missed a lot. I suspect last night's group was heavily MGoBloggers. The questions betrayed knowledge of what's on and has been on the site, and everyone actually paid attention to the answers.
Thanks to both of them for coming out [EDIT: meaning Brian & Tom]. And good news for Chris Wormley if his surgery is in fact being done by Brian's surgeon. He made it to New York, seemed comfortable standing and in very good spirits.
stankoniaks - curious... outside of publicizing it on weekly club emails, facebook, club website, twitter, mgoblog, and wolverinenation forums, where else would you want to see the club publicize future events?
FYI I think the event was sent out via the NYC AA emails I think a few months out. I have gotten several of them, and it seemed they increased in frequency as we got closer.
I think y'all should do one of these in the rural Southwest VA region. Us fans down there want info too. I'm sure we could rent out a couple of booths in a Waffle House and have them packed.
Surprised by the news that the turnout was bad... I've attended to Brian's previous NYC trips before I moved to Cali last year and they were always packed...
Sounds like a great event. Thanks for the recap. That's great of them to make the trip out to NYC.
If they're willing to make it out to DC, I am sure the club can setup a similar event.
Being a former New Yorker, I can confidently agree that mid to late August is kind of a dead-zone in Manhattan. The weather tends to be brutal, and has been especially so this year. Those who can afford to leave the city do. (And it stands to reason that many M alums can afford to take some sort of summer vacation.) Those who remain tend to stick near their ACs.
Brian and TVH ought to consider scheduling their next NYC visit for sometime before July 4th or after Labor Day. I realize the latter may be impractical, given their in-season workloads. But they'd definitely draw much better then.
So I assume Brian and Tom are on good terms? I was wondering about that after Tom left for ESPN.
but I imagine you'd be very hard pressed to hear either of them say anything negative about each other even if there was bad blood. They both seem too classy for that.
but leaving for ESPN seems like a legit career move for anyone.
Their interaction seemed like that of very, very good friends.
i was going to go, but the rain was extremely heavy (randomly) so just decided to head home.
also, august is the slowest month of the year for NYC. only tourists in town and all the NYCers are out on vaca.
Devin at WR more then we expected? Hopefully this translates to a better passing game. He is a big target who will be difficult for cbs to drag down, I just hope his hands don't let us all down.