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January 18th, 2010 at 6:00 PM
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Brian against Rushing the Court

Brian's on WTKA today (you're all listening, right?) and when the rushing the court was brought up, he was against it. He thought the program shouldn't have to rush the court when beating just the #15 team in the country. He made sure to point out that it wasn't a big deal that they did (not to the level of say, piped in music), but he wouldn't have rushed the court if he was there. He wondered what the students could do if they beat MSU this week after having already playing the 'rush the court' card.

He also liked Verne doing the telecast, FWIW.

So, there was a lot of negging going back and forth over this yesterday. Hot words, in both directions. This change anyone's opinion, one way or another? Anyone want to call say "Ah HA", or call Brian a doody head?

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:05 PM | OMG Brian thinks they (Score:1)
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OMG Brian thinks they shouldn't have rushed the court!!!!!!111!!!

January 18th, 2010 at 6:23 PM | Don't know why you got negged (Score:1)
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Don't know why you got negged because I like your response so I +'d you back to zero...lol.

 Robinson also packed snow into a plastic bag for his return flight.
"Melted on the plane," he said.
 


 

January 18th, 2010 at 6:52 PM | Didn't see it, but wouldn't be able to figure it out either (Score:1)
M-Wolverine
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I thought it was hilarious.

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January 18th, 2010 at 8:03 PM | You seem to have recovered (Score:1)
GVBlue_is_still_blue
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You seem to have recovered nicely. Guess I should have waited before tauting my generosity ;).

 Robinson also packed snow into a plastic bag for his return flight.
"Melted on the plane," he said.
 


 

January 18th, 2010 at 9:40 PM | heh! Who spilled Brian's Chardonnay on the way by? (Score:1)
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Brian would also like you to get the hell off his lawn.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:08 PM | Brian's a doody head (Score:1)
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When we get to the point of making the NCAA five years out of six and consistently are at the top of the Big Ten and beat MSU as often as not, then we can consider ourselves "above" rushing the court after beating a #15 team. That so many people seem to assume that we've already taken a spot among the top teams in the country so therefore rushing the court is inappropriate is just bizarre to me. It's a level of cognitive dissonance that's pretty remarkable. This program has been in the absolute crapper for 10 years or more, but one single solitary appearance in the NCAA has evidently erased all of that decade-long suck for some folks.

I have no problem with people who themselves don't feel like rushing the court; it's purely an individual thing. What I don't get is that so many believe it was so contemptible to do it.


January 18th, 2010 at 6:25 PM | It isn't that we are above (Score:1)
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It isn't that we are above rushing the court after beating the #15 team in the country. It is that we should carry ourselves like a fanbase that is above rushing the court against the #15 team in the country. At least, that's what I think Brian was trying to say.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:43 PM | Ticket Structure (Score:1)
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If you're a non-student, you may or may not be aware, but they did student tickets differently for the UConn and State games this year. Normally, it's general admission, encouraging kids to get to the gate early. But these two games reward kids who had perfect attendance through the first five games, giving them better odds at getting a draw in the bleacher section. If you got selected for the bleachers (not everyone with perfect attendance did, btw), you were to pick up your tickets before getting to Crisler. It's a somewhat strange system, although it makes sense if they didn't want kids camping out for hours before tip.

My point: I still believe this was an important game, and I rushed the court along with all of my peers. But maybe we were led to believe that the game was bigger than it was with the ticket structure and all.

Oh well. It was a great time.

January 18th, 2010 at 6:46 PM | Nothing you say is untrue (Score:1)
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But I'm guessing they set up the game that way before the season even began when they thought that U-Conn was the Final Four type substance team they were last year, and this would be a big game because we'd be a ranked good team, and they'd be a juggernaut that we'd be using to make seeding hay out of. Not a team struggling to make the NIT vs. a team losing 3 in a row.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:49 PM | Subject line (Score:1)
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Good to see someone took me up on my offer...

And is taking the thread with the level of seriousness it deserves. ;-)

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January 19th, 2010 at 1:01 AM | +1 Don... (Score:1)
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...for "cognitive dissonance." Well-played.

 

 

 

January 18th, 2010 at 6:10 PM | I would normally be against (Score:1)
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I would normally be against rushing the court after beating #15, but the students/team were looking for a reason to celebrate in the midst of an otherwise lackluster season.

If rushing the court can reinvigorate fans and students about UMBB, why not?

January 18th, 2010 at 8:10 PM | Plus, (Score:1)
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as a student here, we're just happy to get a good win. I wasn't at the game (I had to work), but I think it's easy to see how hungry our students are for wins.

I'm sure in the future we will compete frequently for Big Ten Championships in both football and basketball, but in the meanwhile we'll take what we can get.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:11 PM | Rush the court. If the (Score:1)
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Rush the court. If the students are excited enough about the game, they should do it. Why try to limit the atmosphere. The students should err on the side of more fun instead of less fun.

There have been a thousand posts about getting people more involved at football games, while this refers to basketball, it is the same principle.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:27 PM | I love it when you talk all (Score:1)
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I love it when you talk all sexy like.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:49 PM | Hear hear! (Score:1)
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People bitch and moan about how no one cheers, no one stands, no one cares. Now they complain because a segment of the Maize Rage cared maybe a bit too much and OMG! rushed the court. Manny and Darius Morris admitted on the record that they liked it, and photos showed Brandon Graham and Devin Gardner on the court and looking as if THEY liked it. Current student athletes outrank Brian as opinion leaders in this matter for me.

You don't wanna rush the floor, don't, but good lord shut up about it. How many threads do we need on this?

January 18th, 2010 at 6:18 PM | I suppose the optimal outcome (Score:1)
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would have been for the students to slowly file onto the court and shake hands with one another. But no high fives please. (Fist bumps pushing it, but permissible.)


January 18th, 2010 at 6:26 PM | Indeed. Act like you've been there, routinely. (Score:1)
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After all the kerfuffle, I have been thinking that we should just make it a tradition to rush the court after every win, in a quick but measured way. I was thinking more along the lines of a spirited fan/player party, but I really like this hand-shaking idea. Everyone could bring monocles and pipes and equip them as the horn sounds. The students could pair off and perform an actual Victors Waltz. Pip-pip, cheerio.

January 18th, 2010 at 6:41 PM | They suggested that too (Score:1)
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New Michigan tradition...rush the court after every win. Beat IUPUI? Rush the court.

They were kidding, of course.

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January 18th, 2010 at 8:14 PM | IIRC, clemson rushes their (Score:1)
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IIRC, clemson rushes their football field after every game

January 18th, 2010 at 6:19 PM | it was a half-hearted (Score:1)
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it was a half-hearted rushing, at best.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:22 PM | Taking out frustration (Score:1)
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Can you really be angry at students for rushing the court Sunday? While it was not the biggest win in the world and didn't improve our incredibly slim tournament chances all that much, this game was what all of us have been expecting this year, and rushing the court was taking out our frustration on the season and celebrating a big win. It was a split second reaction anyway, and I'm sure most students just followed because those in the first few rows stormed. People are saying "Save it for Sparty". Do you really think we are going to beat State? While I wasn't a huge fan of the court storming, I don't think it was an awful move.

January 18th, 2010 at 6:41 PM | I have crazy respect for (Score:1)
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I have crazy respect for Brian for running this site, but I don't think his opinion is gospel. It doesn't change my view any, which is that complaining about this falls dangerously close to the "Down in front!" complaining. We've complained forever that our fans aren't raucous enough, and now when they show a ton of emotion, that's a bad thing, too?

Who cares if they've "played the rush card" already? If we beat MSU, why not rush again? The most important thing is that our newfound large student section (2,500, compared to 480 last year) enjoys itself at the games and makes Crisler a happening place to go to.

January 18th, 2010 at 8:37 PM | National TV (Score:1)
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Great point about student season tickets.

Plus, this game is was on national TV, this shows anyone who watched Michigan is more than just a football school. It shows that we have passion for all sports and he will be a rising power in the Big Ten for years to come.

I am glad we rushed the court, it shows the students are behind the program and that the program should be considered as a serious contender in the years to come, especially with Beilein behind the helms.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:23 PM | I like the energy of the (Score:1)
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I like the energy of the college game and I think that is part of it. Let the kids enjoy and have fun without picking on them.

January 18th, 2010 at 6:28 PM | Another question: I read (Score:1)
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Another question: I read something on Rivals about Trey Zeigler considering a visit for the game yesterday. Does anyone know if he ended up in attendance?

January 18th, 2010 at 6:43 PM | Also according to them on the radio (Score:1)
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He didn't make it. There was some other commitment he had. And Brian didn't sound really confident that there would be A commitment coming.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:34 PM | I remember (Score:1)
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after the Wisconsin game in '08, Brian said he heard someone, leaving the game, complaining about the missed 2 point conversion or something to that effect. He said something to the effect that, "These people must lead really depressing lives if they can find something to complain about after that game." Well, I say that everyone who is on this DON'T RUSH THE COURT EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR UNLESS WE BEAT KANSAS-KENTUCKY-TEXAS DURING THE SAME GAME kick, leads a terrible life. Do you really have to find something negative in everything? This is the perfect example of why our fan base gets such a negative rap. I'm sorry for all of the toes I'm sure I just stepped on, but I really had to say something.

January 18th, 2010 at 6:36 PM | I was wondering (Score:1)
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why they rushed the court after beating #15 UConn but failed to do so after previously beating then #15 Ohio State?

January 18th, 2010 at 6:41 PM | Circumstances. (Score:1)
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Circumstances.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:44 PM | Elaborate? :-) (Score:1)
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Elaborate? :-)

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January 18th, 2010 at 7:36 PM | Sure (Score:1)
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The desperate need for a good OOC win, the fact that we seemed to have it in hand but still had the uneasy feeling it would slip away, and finally with the outcome resting on a few free-throws. It makes for an exciting ending. Also, wasn't OSU on a weekday?

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January 18th, 2010 at 7:41 PM | OSU (Score:1)
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OSU was a Sunday, but it was the Sunday before winter break ended so it was not a full Maize Rage.

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January 18th, 2010 at 7:48 PM | Ah, thanks. (Score:1)
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Ah, thanks.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:44 PM | I don't think it was about (Score:1)
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I don't think it was about the ranking, per se. UConn is a marquee program and beating them makes national headlines. OSU is merely a good program (and in their current state, without Evan Turner, they're just average).

January 18th, 2010 at 6:45 PM | Well in football it'd be like (Score:1)
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Well in football it'd be like the difference between beating a #15 Florida/USC team or beating a #15 Illinois or Penn State. Hope that answers your question

January 18th, 2010 at 6:48 PM | Not really (Score:1)
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Because I wouldn't rush the field after either...

But then, in football, we're at least SUPPOSED to be good.

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January 18th, 2010 at 7:02 PM | I suppose you are right. Poor (Score:1)
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I suppose you are right. Poor analogy on my part

January 18th, 2010 at 7:22 PM | But then, in football, we're (Score:1)
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But then, in football, we're at least SUPPOSED to be good.

FWIW I think this might be part of the reason why there is so much "Get off my lawn!" sentiment going on over this. While most of the current students barely remember the last time Michigan made the tournament prior to last year, older fans remember when beating the #15 team wasn't such a rare thing (and seriously, I'm not even 30, I'm not talking that much older). So I think the grumblers are annoyed that lots of people would think the basketball team isn't supposed to be good too. We'd like to pretend that last decade was an aberration, rushing the court against the #15 team doesn't help.

January 18th, 2010 at 10:12 PM | I was at UM from 84-91. (Score:1)
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(Seven years--might as well join the peace corps) Those were great times for the basketball team and no one would have rushed the court for a win like this. HOWEVER, we have not had that kind of success in what seems like forever. Truth be told, the basketball crowd was pretty complacent even when we were good.
I can't wait for the day that we are above rushing the court for a win like this. But I had my fun and until that day comes, I say rush if you feel like rushing.

January 19th, 2010 at 9:27 PM | Well, historically (Score:1)
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The last decade IS the aberration.

We just have some perspective.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:42 PM | Say it isn't so Joe! (Score:1)
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Say it isn't so Joe!

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:43 PM | I am a student. I was (Score:1)
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I am a student. I was sitting in the bleachers. I did not rush the court (there were only a few of us). But if it created a better atmosphere for the many recruits attending, then I wont complain a single word.

Look at it this way. Less than 600 students purchased student tickets last year when we beat Duke and rushed the court (justifiably). Close to 2500 students bought tickets this year, and I'm willing to guess that most of those on the court were not present for last season's Duke game. It looked cool on TV last year so when they got the chance to do the same, they took it.

Lets not take anything away from how amazing the atmosphere was at Crisler Sunday afternoon.

January 18th, 2010 at 6:44 PM | Also, if we beat MSU, I will (Score:1)
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Also, if we beat MSU, I will most definitely be on the court.

January 18th, 2010 at 6:48 PM | This does not change my viewpoint (Score:1)
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I have incredible respect for what Brian does, however I have to disagree with his opinion. I had no problem with the students rushing the court.

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January 18th, 2010 at 6:51 PM | Have you change the way you (Score:1)
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Have you change the way you worded this post like 3 times? LMAO!

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January 18th, 2010 at 7:03 PM | yeah (Score:1)
MH20
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I added on to what I originally wrote then changed a word or two.

What can I say, I tend to be a perfectionist about some things.

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January 18th, 2010 at 8:49 PM | So I hear you have been (Score:1)
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So I hear you have been banging some girl named "MGoJen"........ Started with an MGoBlindDate at the game?

January 18th, 2010 at 9:06 PM | Definitely (Score:1)
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Not cool.

Probably just a joke, but still, not cool.

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January 18th, 2010 at 9:14 PM | Haha, not as pleasing to the (Score:1)
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Haha, not as pleasing to the eye as expected?

(of course I am joking)

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