Brian about to appear on WTKA

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Should be interesting to hear how beat down he is from the week of constant news, and constant site repairs from it blowing up.

Mitch Cumstein

January 6th, 2011 at 11:24 AM ^

I think he would be a great hire, I've brought up his name several times.  I think you run into a similar problem with him as with Fitz though.  Keeler is Mr. Delaware.  Player and coach, he loves it there and is a local hero.  It would be hard for him to give that up to go to a place where people are hating him immediately (b/c he isn't a big name hire).

maznbluwolverine

January 6th, 2011 at 11:01 AM ^

But the main question I have for Brady Hoke is, "Did you see why the masses wanted Lloyd out"?  If Hoke comes in and runs plays like Mike DoBord, it won't work.  And since Brady worked under the old guard, has he changed?

TheMadGrasser

January 6th, 2011 at 11:37 AM ^

I live in SoCal and have watched more than a few games this year because my roomate went to SDSU. That team resembles nothing of a Lloyd Carr Michigan team....just saying. People are way to quick to jump to conclusions about a guy who, in recent years, has quite frankly, kicked ass. Plus, it doesn't hurt that he really has a passion for MICHIGAN, not another dollar in his pocket.

jmblue

January 6th, 2011 at 1:40 PM ^

I would add that the masses were generally content with Lloyd himself, but just wanted him to tweak his staff and approach to the game (take more risks) somewhat.  That's pretty normal coach-criticism.

The Denarding

January 6th, 2011 at 11:05 AM ^

You aren't going to get Mullen.  If Florida can't get Mullen, Michigan won't get Mullen.  

And on the topic of Harbaugh and Hoke.   Harbaugh is not coming here.  The reasons are probably multitudinous but at the end of the day he has a pro football ego.  That is what people have conveniently forgotten.  Jim Harbaugh is one of the most egotistical coaches out there.  This is neither negative or positive - it is realism.  And he wants to prove himself on the biggest stage to say he proved himself on the biggest stage.  I also think that he will not succeed at the level he perceives he will.   You can't pick your players in the pros.  The great pro coaches were great NFL coordinators.  They understand the NFL game AS A COORDINATOR.  Meaning they draw up their own schemes, face constant match ups everyday and understand the speed of the game.  The great thing about college is you can just get whatever talent you want (either recruiting them like Michigan used to do or giving them a used car dealership like Ohio State does).  Harbaugh will miss that decided advantage of impressionable kids that are hand picked listening to his every word.  Oh well - he'll learn.

Bo Pelini is your best bet if you can get him.  Shame we couldn't get Al Golden - he will do very well at Miami,

Hari

The Denarding

January 6th, 2011 at 11:17 AM ^

Gundy want the Texas job if it came open?  Would he want to come to the Midwest where he has no ties whatsoever?  

He is a very underrated coach but I suspect he doesn't want to leave the southwest area

STW P. Brabbs

January 6th, 2011 at 11:47 AM ^

I'll preface this with saying it's not my personal opinion, but I'm pretty sure Gundy would fall into the same 'outsider' column that  Rodriguez landed in with the old guard at Michigan.  Where Rodriguez was seen as a bit corn-pone, Gundy would come across as a Southwestern car salesman.  Not saying that's right, but I guarantee he'd have the same rough ride as Rodriguez.

Also primarily an offensive-minded guy, no? 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

January 6th, 2011 at 12:06 PM ^

His background is offense, yes. I can see how that'd be a turnoff, but I think it'd be a mistake to make that a deal-breaker. Also, there are really only three candidates that would satisfy the "no outsiders" crowd: Harbaugh, who doesn't want the job; Miles, who is sleazy and was reportedly torpedoed as a candidate in 2007 by the old guard; and Hoke, who is mediocre. Confining the search to those three to satisfy "those people" would be a disaster, frankly. Whatever the size and volume of that wing of the fanbase (I'd say it's debatable, but they certainly exist) they should be ignored for thinking that the only thing that can make you a Michigan Man is having worn the colors once before. They're like the redneck father in the old joke who learns that his son's fiancee is a virgin and tells him that "if she ain't good enough for her family she ain't good enough for ours."

ChalmersE

January 6th, 2011 at 2:33 PM ^

Well, whoever comes next will have a big advantage over RR.  He's coming after three abysmal years instead of 40 straight winning seasons.  Also everyone's so tired all but the most fanatic RR supporters will embrace the new coach.  While RR would have been strung up at 7-5 in 2011, the new coach can say 7-5 is just his first year and that now that his system's in place, the sun will come out again tomorrow.   I'm not saying that's right, but that's just the way it is.  You never want to succeed Dean Smith, you want to succeed Dean Smith's successor.

psychomatt

January 6th, 2011 at 11:43 AM ^

Brian might not be happy about it, but Miles is at the top of the list (well, after JH) and it seems he does want the job. Brian at least should be comforted that Brady Hoke is no one's first choice (thank God).

michgoblue

January 6th, 2011 at 12:01 PM ^

I know that Brian and some on this board have listed the "options" but at this point, we don't know who is available.  When we did our 2007 search, NOBODY mentioned RR.  Nobody.  Becuase nobody knew we had a shot to get him.  For all we know, DB might unearth another big name coach that would be willing to leave his stable job to come here. 

EDIT:  Also, When Lloyd took over the team, he was not a "big name" hire and he won a National Championship, several B10 championships and took us to quite a few Rose Bowls. 

jfoust81

January 6th, 2011 at 12:14 PM ^

Ross is not working for Michigan here. He took his CEO of FB operations and his GM with him to meet with Harbaugh. They are out to get Harbaugh to coach Miami in the NFL. Unless Harbaugh has a massive change of heart, he is not coming to Michigan.

elhead

January 6th, 2011 at 12:26 PM ^

Yes people are sounding a little despondent but good part is that I think we've all learned a lot about big league coaching and where our school's program fits - and people are having really intelligent discussions about it.

I like Brandon. Hell, I am hardly a Republican and I probably could not last in the same room as him very long. But he isn't a dummy by any stretch and, given the challenges, he is taking all the key points under consideration in going about his work.

Why Coach Rod did not work out in Ann Arbor is complicated, but from the day Brandon began as AD he has made it his business to understand what was going on with that. He could still really mess this up because there are plenty of ways to do that, but I respect how he is going about things right now.

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January 6th, 2011 at 12:28 PM ^

At best he's a less attractive candidate than Hoke.

At worst he's a mediocre coach doing mediorce things at a mediorce program.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

January 6th, 2011 at 1:18 PM ^

I don't think he's "less attractive" than Hoke at all? I mean, how so? Northwestern is at a severe competitive disadvantage. Probably the worst competitive disadvantage in the whole country outside of Vanderbilt. No history, crippling academic requirements, small alumni base, lousy crowds. I think having a decent winning record there is light years more impressive than one at San Diego State.

mackbru

January 6th, 2011 at 12:47 PM ^

If JH backed out of an informal agreement with us at the last minute, and used us to leverage NFL teams, I will take back my support for him and forever deem him a turd.

mackbru

January 6th, 2011 at 2:05 PM ^

Brandon has shown a propensity to float things in the media. We all agree on this, yes? I think he's floating Hoke. To test the waters. And maybe to set thing up for a bigger name coach. Everyone would then seem pleasantly surprised.