Sorry guys... Here's the hit you guys all know I was referring to.
Breakout Defensive Player Predictions
...that is all.
That was the first name that came to mind.
James Mutha Phukin Ross
True Dat. Ross is going to be a star.
Need him to be more than just a rotational guy.
I think we definitely need more from him and can't let him slip to Will Campbell territory.
I'd like to submit, for the MGoCommunitiy's consideration, a breakout player at each of the three main areas of the defense; line, LBs and DB.
Pipkins, Ross and Countess are my three breakout players.
I think Taco is going to be the our Stud Freshman so my pick is Taco.
I only have a few.
Plus one more no one is expecting
Mario Ojemudia. Book it.
A close friend of mine was a counselor of his in high school and said he's a real quality kid, so I've been hoping he'll do well since he showed up. Hope it happens this year.
Scaring opposing offenses with that death stare, no doubt.
Just hope he's put on some serious weight this offseason.
And the reason I'm going with him isn't necessarily because he's going to take a huge step forward and suddenly be the best NT ever. But the B1G had a ton of DT talent the last couple years, and Washington has been consistent, but over shadowed. I think people start to recognize him more now that some of those other guys are gone.
Also my pick
I will go with someone who nobody seems to be mentioning in Chris Wormley
Wormley probably won't even start.
Johnny Manziel wasn't a starter at this time last year either, no reason Wormley can't breakout and be an unexpected contributor.
Yes, I realize that. But Johnny Manziel started. What I'm saying is that Wormley probably won't start, which is why I said that Wormley probably won't even start.
That last sentence makes my top 5 sentences ever on this blog:
What I'm saying is that Wormley probably won't start, which is why I said that Wormley probably won't even start.
and the unknown unknowns?
Ok, I get what you're saying is that Wormley probably won't start, which is why you said that Wormley probably won't even start; but you also have to admit that Wormley probably will start if it's probable that Wormley starts, at which point you'd have to say Wormley will probably start.
Also, yeah, bringing up Johnny Manziel in comparison to a 3-tech DT being a breakout player is probably a little bit of a reach.
If you are suggesting Wormley get busted with a fake ID after a bar fight so that the staff can cover it up, I will have to disagree.
Not saying there is any comparison between a quarterback and a 3 tech, but to state there is no way he could be a breakout player is ignorant. My point is every year there are breakout Sara in college football who the previous year no one had heard of, and many times were fighting for a starting spot entering fall camp. Wormley is no different than anyone on the defense in regards to his ability to make an impact this season. Who thought Desmond Morgan would have the impact that he did in 2011 as a true freshman? Was he "probably going to start"?
"to state there is no way he could be a breakout player is ignorant."
I agree wholeheartedly!!! Now tell me who said that there's no way he could be a breakout player. Find that quote, and I'll join your side! Let's string that guy up!
You are right. As others have also said, the fact that so many players have been mentioned is a great sign for the future. Very excited about this upcoming season.
I guess I could pick James Ross or Blake Countess like everyone else but that doesn't seem to add much to the conversation.
But fine. James Ross
I mean, I think the question was asking who the breakout player would be. If you think James Ross is the guy, go for it. If you think Wormley is the guy, stick to your guns.
I could pick Richard Ash and then seem like a genius if he breaks out, but chances are very slim that it actually happens.
People above mentioned Joe Bolden, Taco, Ondre Pipkins, and Mario Ojemudia. All four of these players probably won't start either.
Wormley is a workout warrior, and has just as much of an opportunity to rotate in as all the other guys and become a starter/breakout player.
That being said, my pick is Dymonte Thomas. Kid is going to make plays. Wouldn't be shocked if he saw some offensive snaps as well. People forget, this kid was our Jabrill Peppers before we got Jabrill Peppers.
For the sake of all of our sanity it better be Jarrod Wilson
If we get the insane pass rush Coach Swagison is aiming for we won't need a break-out D-back.
Wouldn't that be swell (swooning)
But a good secondary is also able to give pass rushers the extra second for them to reach the qb.
Note: the competition may not be that fierce.
With the leaps and bounds he made last year I can't wait to see him play this year.
Never heard of him.
I'm more curious about Raymon than this Raymond fella.
Raymond is Ann Arbor's local State Farm insurance agent.
Raymond is a well-known point guard for the proud Owls of Florida Atlantic.
5'6", 145 lbs.? He must have been a Rodriguez recruit.
There are so many 4/5 stars to pick from. I don't even know who to take.
Just reading through the comments and seeing 10 different guys listed, and actually believing that there is merit in all of the arguments is a great feeling.
I would hope to see Cam Gordon breakout and mostly fill the JMFR-sized gap in the defense. Pipkins, Clark, Ross and Wilson as well.
He has a jake Ryan type of motor at a position that is set up for TFLs.
Throwing hat in with the James Ross crowd. Frank Clark based on "camp whispers" but James Ross based on what I saw with my own eyes last year.
We'll have approx. 16 breakout players on defence imho. I love how the coaches keep rewarding great weeks of practice with starts. One player has a hot week, the coaches give him a chance to go off on Saturday. I'm betting on several of our upperclassmen "getting it" and putting everything together consistently next year.My guess for every week standouts would be Clark, Washington, Black, Ross, Thomas at Nickel, Gordon at SS, and Countess.
I'm gonna pick a freshman from each group. Taco, Gedeon, Lewis, and D. Thomas. I don't expect any to start, but they should all see the field a little bit and gain some experience.
I would hope all but Thomas gets a redshirt. I don't think that any of the other guys really need to get playing time right now, which is a great thing to say after years of having no choice but to play true/rs freshman.
I'm just assuming a few will play due to injury and rotating guys in. If the coaches want the best athletes on the field, they may have to burn a few redshirts.
I don't see Taco redshirting. Just my opinion obviously, but I think he plays.
Of the names I listed, I think Taco and Dymonte are 2 of those players that are too good to keep off the field. I don't see either redshirting.
James Ross...... I think he'll do well enough to be considered as our top defensive player, as Jake Ryan is out.
Pipkins will blow shit up
I like this one too.
I'll go with James Ross.
Dark horse pick? Drew Dileo.
Holy crap! There goes the secondary.
If by, "Holy crap! There goes the secondary!" you mean, "Holy crap! The other team will never complete a pass to anyone other than Drew Dileo!" then yes, I agree.
NEVER DOUBT THE THREAT.
He probably won't even start.
Johnny Manziel wasn't supposed to start last year either so...
because he's a great kid and I'd like to see a local product do well. After shuffling positions for the good of the team, any playing time is considered a "breakout" to me. Now that Kovacs is gone, Gant is my local player hero.
And yes, Magnus - I know he won't start. :)
They are both from the Toledo area.
If I had to pick one, its definitely Ross. That kid is going to be an animal this year. But there's a few guys who I think have the potential to blow up.
Pip's got the ability to turn into a mammoth run stuffer this year, Countess can definitely have a bounce-back year, hopefully AP style, and potentially Clark. I'm a tad skeptical of all the hype he's been getting coming out of spring camp, simply because I haven't seen anything for myself yet. But I'm hoping he gets on the field this Fall and makes me look like an idiot.
I'll go with a local product, Joe Bolden. He good decent playing time last year and I look for better things this year.
I interpret the term "breakout player" to mean someone who really hasn't even seen the field very much, if at all, and additionally, one who will get a good amount of attention/press.
Thus, I have to go with Taco Charlton. Not only is he a bit of a physical freak, but he enrolled early, which could give him a bit of an edge over any other guys who haven't seen the field yet. Also, he will be playing DE, possibly only in passing situations, so he may be able to get a number of sacks, "pressures" or "hurries", which are some of the few stats/highlights for a DL. These plays tend to get a lot of attention from announcers and even casual fans, as most have their eyes on the ball, and the QB has the ball almost every snap.
It can be hard for the big dudes on the interior of the DL to get a lot of love from the media and fans, as they just don't pile up a lot of highlights or well-known stats while they do their invaluable dirty work in the trenches.
The LB corps should be very good, but the guys there have played enough to be fairly well-known commodities among us fans, and to me, an all-conference type year from any one of them wouldn't surprise me.
we need Taco to put on some pressure especially while Jake Ryan is out...
He showed he's got great potential last year, and I think if teams try to stay away from Countess' side of the field (ytbd), Raymon's probably going to get a chance to make a lot of huge plays
He wasn't 100% for spring ball, but I think he emerges as the SDE out of fall. My #2 would be Jerrod Wilson, he gained some experience last year and played well other than freshman mistakes, this year he'll make a giant leap.
I really want to see Pipkins terrorizing the interior this year.
I would have to choose Jarod Wilson. Dude played pretty well but just made a ton of mental mistakes when he came in the game. If he can limit those then he will be solid this year.
I am so stinkin excited for this year I am like a giddy little school girl.
Clark because our DE pass rush has been almost non-existant the pass few years and Gordon might have to replace some of what Ryan did as a playmaker.
Jibreel Black. It's his second year at 3-tech and he has one hell of a motor.
I would also add Raymon Taylor since he got a lot of good experience last year and I think the d-line will be at least as good as it was in 2011, so he could make some plays if the front four is better at getting pressure.
James Ross seems like he already broke out, but I can see why so many people would have him here.
JR only seems like he broke out because everyone is so high on him. He was a solid back-up last year, that's all.
Obvious is obvious--James Ross will be the breakout player in '13. But here's a list of guys I expect to take big steps forward:
- Clark -- If he doesn't, we won't win the conference
- Heitzman/Wormley -- Whoever wins the SDE job needs to be at least as good as Roh was. I think one of these guys will do it by the time B1G play starts
- Gordon -- The SLB is key to this defense's success; I think Gordon shows that he's not a big downgrade from JMFR.
- Thomas -- This kid is going to be very, very good from day one.
- Gordon -- It will be Gordon's play--not Wilson's--that will determine who well our back end holds up. Wilson is going to make some dumb mistakes; all young safeties do. If Gordon plays to an All-B1G level (even HM), then we'll be fine.
If any of the above predictions don't come true, it's unlikely we win the division. If they all do, it's unlikely we lose the division. If they all come true and the O-line gels, we have a chance at running the table.
I heard that Godin played a lot of time at SDE with the 1st team this spring so I wouldn't count him out there.
countess already broke out as a true freshman CB in 2011
and obvious Frank Clark is obvious
i think our dline will have a very high variance. Q Wash could be one of the best DLs in the big ten, or he could slip. Pipkens could destroy things, or he could bust. the DE starters arent even for sure yet, and its possible charlton could start there as well. they could tear up opponents, or they could fold in most games. thankfully our LBs and DBs are good enough to keep us at a high level in either scenario.
really good or really bad DL, no middle ground or average games?
Hmmm should be crazy season then
I think his technique catches up with his strength and motor.
this guy will be all over the field....
should be able to break out of his spot on the sidelines and get another play on special teams. Possibly more, depending on how well the team plays against Akron.
He probably won't even start.
is most LIKELY to break out as a star on defense, definitely Ross. If we're picking who we'd most WANT to break out as a star, then someone on the Dline, probably Pipkins. If you've got a stud DT that draws a lot of double teams, that opens up all kinds of avenues for other players who are not as good to make an impact.
Exciting to think if Pipkins can demand double teams how much space that would open up for Ross to roam. With no lineman getting to him the guy could be making 10+ tackles a game.
He's going back to his natural position this year and got rave reviews from the coaching staff. He has the size and athleticism of the prototypical pro middle linebacker.
I think Ross is an obvious choice.... Maybe Clark too - I have little doubt he'll make more big plays this season, but I'm still crossing my fingers on consistency.
I think Countess has the season we thought he would last year before he got hurt. Everyone was anticipating big things out of him then, but he's a forgotten man in most conversations leading into 2013, it seems.
I want to say Pipkins, but honestly I think it might be one more season before he really hits stride. I also desperately want to say Wilson, but if there is one questionable spot on D right now, it's there. If Wilson plays well, this defense is going to be awfully, awfully good. We can't possibly be that lucky, can we?
I'll call Jibreel Black my darkhorse, as I've always thought there was potential there.
The big surprise though? Cam Gordon. He is going to be a good player. I think that by the time Ryan is back, the coaches are looking for ways to play both at the same time.
will work himself into the rotation and consistently be postitive in the UFR's.
Worried a bit about the hype on Taco guys, or your expectations this early in his career. When was the last time a frosh or a redshirt frosh really made a serious impact at DE? Serious question.
Taco is the Real Enchilada...
Cam Gordon will make us almost forget we're missing Jake Ryan for much of the season. Also an obvious choice in James Ross.
Not sure how many of you were at the spring game, and I know that watching an inter-squad "scrimmage" is worlds away from a real game. However, this dude is a freaking beast. He seems relentless to me, and I really think that throughout the first half of the season he will shine with the limited reps he'll get. I also think that buy game 6, the coaches will have to rotate him in more and more to give us the best chance at creating pressure with just 4 guys.
I'm not sold on Clark or Ross being dominant quite yet, and I hope Countess can return to form after his injury. I think Desmond Morgan will have put some more bulk on, and I like his ability to read/react. I predict he will lead the team in tackles this season and be the rock that we need to depend on from our inside linebackers. Can't wait for this season!!! Go Blue!