Edwards said three current receivers have "inquired" about wearing the jersey, though they have not spoken to Edwards directly — Roy Roundtree, Junior Hemingway and Darryl Stonum.
Edwards said three current receivers have "inquired" about wearing the jersey, though they have not spoken to Edwards directly — Roy Roundtree, Junior Hemingway and Darryl Stonum.
Well, Roundtree definitely has the Braylon hands. I kid, I kid (not really).
I think Roundtree is the obvious front-runner, but Hemingway has a legit shot of being a real breakout receiver this year.
and at a glance, I would have put Junior farthest from it. Tree has a lot of catches but a ton of drops, Stonum seems a bit more sure handed plus he's a good returner. Hemingway just seems to be there, his RAC and TD vs UI notwithstanding.
If that is all you remember from Hemingway last year I think you must have slept through most games. He may not have had huge numbers, but he wasn't targeted a lot. He made some great catches and showed the ability to make big plays after the catch on multiple occasions.
I am not necessarily saying he deserves it more than anyone else, just that your comment really shortchanges what he did last year.
Oh, and the fact that Braylon needs to be consulted on this is beyond ridiculous!
Hemingway was, to me, a shining star in an otherwise dreary second half of the season last year.
Also, Braylon clearly enjoys retaining whatever "power" or say he has with respect to the disposition of the #1 jersey. I would be very disappointed if he has any real say in the process.
I didn't say he was worthless. I said "at a glance".
Stonum and obviously Tree had better numbers, plus Stonum's returning ability.
Agreed on the Braylon shouldn't need to be consulted thing.
It's actually debatable whether or not Stonum had better numbers. He caught 17 more passes but for only 40 more yards. Both caught four TDs. Hemingway averaged more yards per game (59.3 to Stonum's 48.7) and much more per catch (18.5 to Stonum's 12.9). Missing three games due to injury kept his raw numbers down a bit, but he was very productive when healthy.
IMO, Hemingway seems the most like a classic #1 with his big-play ability downfield. If Denard can improve his downfield accuracy, Hemingway could have a huge year. There was a stretch in the middle of last year when Denard, possibly hampered by his shoulder issue, simply couldn't connect on the deep ball.
Braylon endowed a scholarship with the understanding that the scholarship and the #1 were to go to a wide receiver.
From this article:
<blockquote>The football endowment is meant to cover the scholarship cost for a wide receiver. The plan is to have the recipient wear Edwards' old, tradition-rich jersey, No. 1, though through the first three years of the scholarship, none of the designated players has yet been deemed worthy of donning it in games. Edwards told ESPN.com that he has no say over who gets to wear No. 1, but when he objected to the number being assigned to a freshman defensive back two seasons ago, then-first-year Michigan head coach Rich Rodriguez took the jersey back.</blockquote>
Just for the record, the $500,000 endowment came about a year before a *different* endowment of $1,000,000 for Cleveland high schoolers to go to college. I would HOPE that the head coach and the athletic department would take into consideration the opinion of someone making that kind of financial commitment to education.
The Braylon Edwards foundation is also running the charity basketball game this Friday and has made many other contributions. Say what you want about his career, but he has definitely given back to his college and the communities where he's played. That merits some respect.
I agree that maybe he's fishing for some media attention. Then again, it is attention for doing a very good thing.
Stonum's definitely a solid player, no doubt. But I see Hemingway as having a higher ceiling, in terms of being a go-to wideout. According to mgoblue.com, Hemingway is slightly shorter than Stonum, but a fair bit heavier. I think he can be more of a "throw it up and let the WR go up and get it" kind of threat, on top of his ability to make plays after the catch. I think being able to fight for the ball over defenders will be huge in the new offense.
I love this quote from Braylon:
"He was asking me about the number," Edwards said of Hoke. "I said, 'You know, coach, for the No. 1 jersey, everyone looks to me, but at the end of the day, it's on you. You feel like someone deserves to wear the number, you feel comfortable, you have my blessing to give it to whoever you want.'"
It seems like we always jump on Braylon's case when it comes to the #1 jersey issues, but it really is the coaches decision.
To be fair, he did freak out and act like a little bitch when Rich Rod gave it away without realizing it's importance. Plus he made a big hubub about endowing the number in some form.
Should the head football coach at Michigan know this (even if he's from WV) and take a little blame? Yes.
Would a phone call from Braylon to Bill Martin or RR (or lone holdover Fred Jackson) have sufficed? Most definitely.
I like the quote, too. Hopefully this is a sign of Braylon growing up.
Has he done anything that helps or reflects positively on our program or school the last 4 years?
What more do you want?
I want our players (past, present, and future) to not get arrested for drunk driving. Maybe that's just me.
Technically within the last 4 years and pretty generous. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2870737
But the reason he did "freak out" was that the jersey went to a defensive player after he had endowed a scholarship with the understanding that the scholarship, and the #1 jersey, would go to a wide receiver.
RR didn't know about the endowment agreement and when he learned about it fixed the mistake. End of story.
What bothers people like me was that Braylon apparently went to the press with the story, or willingly gave himself up to the press, without first making a simple contact with the Athletic Department to make himself heard there. Which might have quickly, quietly and efficiently served the ends that Braylon preferred.
The net result was silly, mostly meaningless press embarassment for the then-new Rodriguez administration. All because of Braylon's apparent petulance. Much like Braylon's arrests, or Braylon's paternity proceedings. And very much like Braylon's other silly and pointless cheap-shot comments aimed at Coach Rodriguez for the remainder of his time in Ann Arbor.
This is the part I disagree with the way Braylon handled things. I don't want former players trashing us in the media when they can just make a phone call to the athletic department or football offices.
I think people get on his case because he seems to feel his "blessing" is required. At least he acknowledged it is up to the coaches. If anyone should be asked for a blessing, it's AC, not Braylon.
Yeah, that is a 180 from the way he treated RR.
But I have this question: Why is Braylon the only former Wolverine in on these discussions? What about AC, David Terrell, Alexander, MCMurtry, etc? They don't get a say in the #1?
IMO: It was Anthony Carter that started this modern era #1 phenom among the WRs at UM. He should get the final say.
I think it's because Braylon donated $1,000,000 for a scholarship in 'honor' of the number 1 jersey, or something like that. Or he donated the money contingent on special treatment of the Jersey...
Or, something like that.
In fact, Mike Martin is the current recipient of the Braylon Edwards Foundation Scholarship for Football. It takes about $500,000 to $1m to endow the thing; all credit and honor to Braylon and the Foundation for having done that.
This does represent a new and slightly improved public-Braylon.
But just a couple of days ago, it was the same old shit, including that unholy alliance of bad-Braylon and Mark Snyder of the Free Press, in yet another opaque, inexplicable, incoherent attack on Rich Rodriguez:
Braylon Edwards, Michigan's all-time leading receiver, says he feels comfortable around the football program again, now that Brady Hoke is coach.
Edwards dropped by Schembechler Hall last weekend and was greeted warmly by Hoke, who spent an hour reminiscing.
"When you leave somewhere, and you've played and given your all -- you don't have to be an All-American -- you want to feel welcome. You want to go back and feel welcome," Edwards said today, in advance of his charity basketball game Friday at Ann Arbor Pioneer, benefiting Mott Children's Hospital and his foundation. "You don't want to feel like it's tight security or ... you can't show your mom around or your cousin who flew in from Beijing. You just want to feel that open vibe, and that's what it's beginning to be again. We're always family."
"I'm excited about the direction he's taking," Edwards said. "His awareness of the O-State game, the Michigan State game, the traditions, what Michigan football is. Not even that, the Big Ten and how Big Ten football is supposed to be played. So I'm pretty excited about what he's doing. I know our program will turn around soon.
"I shied away from going to Michigan the last three or four years. To go up there and get back in the groove with Brady feels good."
Braylon could (and surely should) say nothing about Rich Rodriguez's tenure at Michigan, and simply bask in his deserved adulation as a brilliant pass-catcher and a major donor to the University's Athletic Department (thanks to his NFL income) and Mott Children's Hospital (thanks to the good influence on Braylon by Coach Lloyd Carr).
For the umpteenth time, a tip to all current and former Wolverine athetic heroes: Don't talk to anyone at the Detroit Free Press.
I'm just curious:
what is the purpose of awarding a scholarship to an athlete already on full athletic scholarship?
Martin has a scholly. Why does he need this?
There are a dozen or more endowed football scholarships. The Athletic Department pays -- in full -- the University (College of LS&A, or whatever) for the student-athlete's tuition, room and board, etc.
The endowed scholarships are special funding sources for distinct athletic scholarships.
So, yes, Mike Martin is a scholarship football player. The Athletic Department pays the University for his tuition, etc. And in his case, it is Athletic Department money that came in as an endowment from the Braylon Edwards Foundation.
so he's not really providing the student with anything (that scholarship would be funded regardless), he's basically just donating money to the AD.
Mike Martin would be on scholarhsip no matter what. And assuredly, the payment made to LS&A for Martin's tuition is all part and parcel of every other football player's tution payments by the Athletic Department.
So, yes, the Braylon Foundation is just giving money to the Department.
Here; this is getting confusing, so just have a look at this:
Yes, but if we didn't have any endowed scholarships, it would be considerably more difficult for our AD to pay the bills. Tuition for athletes is one of its biggest expenses (especially since the university makes them pay out-of-state tuition for every scholarship athlete, regardless of where they're from).
I'm not judging it, merely clarifying it in my mind.
This is, essentially, just a $500K donation to the AD.
If you look here, you can see where most athlete's scholarship money comes from, or whatever you want to call it. For instance, Swimmer, Dan Madwed has/had the Absopure Scholarship for Athletics.
Endowments are *really* important when looking at how non-profits work.
An endowment is (theoretically) enough money to pay for something in perpetuity. Say you want to have $10,000 per year, every year. Assuming a 9% return less 3% per year for inflation means you need $10,000/0.06 = $166,667 dollars to fund that expense forever.
Money can either be used immediately (expense) or put into an endowment fund. At the end of one year, money that is spent is gone. But the endowment fund throws off cash every year. Having someone endow a part of your institution means you never (again, theoretically) have to worry about funding that again.
The size of Harvard's endowment ($27.7 billion) vs. Michigan's ($6.6 billion) is one of the reasons Harvard is so much more influential. They have a much larger budget base as their starting point.
Excellent explanation. Was about to type something up but no need. It's the gift that keeps on giving yay!!!! haha
Wherein all the money obviously goes into the same pot. And what you get is a picture of "your" recipient, and a postcard.
Meanwhile, at Michigan, as opposed to Southern Sudan, instead of $50 bucks it costs $500,000. And your "child" weighs 238 lbs. and runs a 4.58 40.
I completely lost all respect for Braylon the first time he described himself as being from "Lloyd Carr's University of Michigan".
you had the same amount of respect for him after the drunk driving as before
I don't agree with the hate toward Edwards. I don't see anything wrong with this statement (disclosure: I was a RR supporter). Maybe, just maybe, what he said has some truth to it. True, he could say nothing, but he wasn't overly negative. Rather, what he said was much more positive about this current staff and Hoke in particular. He talked about RR in comparison to what he feels now. He isn't the only one to say this. I used to not think these things were accurate, but seeing the response towards Hoke by the football alum, I'm starting to believe that there is some truth to these ideas. To what degree? I don't know. Does it mean that RR wasn't a great guy? Of course not. Does it mean he didn't reach out towards the football alum? No, it doesn't. But if I go to your family reunion, it won't look like my family reunion and it won't feel like family - regardless of how nice your family is to me.
It feels like family to Edwards, and not just Edwards. That's a great thing. If that could be communicated a little better without incriminating RR, all the better. But relax a little. Edwards didn't say anything too nasty. He loves the university. He gave $1mllion to help students (and increase the legacy of his number). This is a good thing. He is not a perfect player or man. He is a Michigan alum.
"Lloyd Carr's University of Michigan... [Coach Rodriguez] is beyond the hot seat... President of the Fire Rodriguez Committee..."
Braylon's been dumb (the Number 1 kerfuffle) and he's been dishonest (the pleas of Stan and Braylon, professing no understanding as to how anybody could misinterpret their support!? for Coach Rodriguez).
Braylon's been a great football player, and he's been a generous donor. But he's also been selfish and immature. And to say that he was recklessly disloyal to the Rodriguez program is an understatement. This is yet one more subject which I can scarcely wait to see reported in John U. Bacon's upcoming book.
The family reunion thing is a good analogy. I don't know what it makes me that I throw my support and benefits of the doubt to the guy who thrilled me when he wore the winged helmet and gave $1 million dollars back to the program. I can't think of anything more unbecoming and destructive than eating our own but if that's what it comes down to, I'm not going to start with the one with the deeper roots, success and enduring loyalty.
RR was going to give it to a defensive back when he came in. Clearly that's not what Braylon had in mind. Clearly Hoke is up to speed on that before he got here, whereas RR not so much.
Braylon should've had just called RR, instead of tweeting/complaining in public about it, and RR would've abided to his request either way.
When I think of the #1 I think of guys who are physical freaks who can go up and make unbelievable catches that result in the whole stadium and everybody in the living room going "Ooooooh!!!" on the replay and guys blowing up for 150 yards and 3 td's against a rival and, most importantly, a guy that every rival fan hates (hates hates). I don't know that we currently have anyone like that, but let's hope so.
Indeed. I love these guys, especially Roundtree. But I just don't see them being mentioned in the same breath as previous #1's.
Watch for yourself.
1) Roundtree will never earn the #1 jersey: proof, look at 5:20 of the video. Roundtree would be down at the one yard line. OK, I jest, he has a shot.... but still...
2) Braylon Edwards was the 2nd best WR in UM history behind AC. This video reminded me how much I loved watching him play. I'm glad he was a Wolverine and won't buy into all the hate on these boards. Yes, he has flaws on/off the field. But he's not a terrible guy. And he loves Michigan and gave me a lot of fun Saturdays watching UM.
Well we were in an extremely run-centric spread option offense that distributed the ball quite evenly last year, so you really can't say that at this point. Against ND if I remember correctly we had three WR's close to 100 yards last year.
Stonum might be closest to that athletically.
That's a tough call. Stonum is really really fast with good vision, but Hemingway seems to be a much bigger, stronger receiver to get jump balls.
I think of Tyrone butterfield.
No one on the current roster deserves #1
The #1 jersey should only go to a guy who can take over and win games. No one on the roster deserves it (yet anyway).
we officially moved Denard to WR, but played him at QB (WR in name only), then we'd have a playmaker worthy of it... right?
If Denard could improve his finesse on deep balls, he could just throw it down field to himself. I think he'd have a fair shot at the #1, in that case.
The #1 jersey belongs to AC
It should be retired
Or given to the WR who spends his first years being lazy and then needs the allure of the #1 jersey to motivate himself.
Give it to someone to light a fire under their ass! Junior has all the tools, and it would be a good reason to retire Desmond's number, at the Notre Dame game
The main problem with all of this is when all of the guys who wore #1 started wearing it, they weren't "worthy" of it yet either. They had shown potential but weren't gamebreakers. Seems to me you give it a guy, like Roundtree, who has shown that potential and use it as motivation to justify the #1 jersey. I'm afraid at this rate no one will wear #1 again.
Tyrone Butterfield. Enough said.
can I neg you twice?
the only one who has droppe close to the number that Roundtree has. I'm for AC's UM, not BE's.
So, you support the Michigan program from 1979-82, but not the program from 2001-04? Okay then.
I mean, it was okay for Braylon not to support the 2008-2010 Michigan program, wasn't it?
It's interesting how different all of these guys are that we're talking about.
1: Roundtree- There's nothing physically amazing about him, but he's just somehow always open and has decent speed.
2: Stonum is very athletic and very fast for the deep stuff.
3. Hemingway is really big and strong like more of a Braylon.
Front of me at the airport security line at Metro on Monday.