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If you had asked me on Saturday, I'd say he was done for the year. Is this him "getting the wind knocked out"?
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I've seen this before......
Classic "tell". He's totally bluffing!!
If he passed all tests in the
If he passed all tests in the hospital and has been cleared to play I don't see what else there is to do but play him. It's not like he was forced out to keep playing after a concussion, he was taken out of the game, tested, and is now ok. There's nothing wrong with him playing.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with him playing.
But, like a lot of the people saying he maybe shouldn't play, I'm pretty shocked to see that he's okay after that hit and the aftermath. I would have guessed something much more serious based on seeing it happen.
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Football is violent
Every weekend I see many hits where I'm surprised the players walk away. Miller certainly hit the ground hard, but it sounds like they were cautious in taking him to the hospital and performing tests, and it's impossible to criticize the decision to put him back in action without knowing more.
"Not criticizing"
I'm not, at all. I have no issue with him playing if the docs at the hospital say he's fine, I just never would have expected him to be fine.
And sure, I'm surprised anyone can get hit by Mike Martin and live, but most of the time getting off the field isn't as big of a deal as it was with Miller. The whole incident just looked like he was seriously hurt.
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Except he could barely walk.
Except he could barely walk. Anyone else notice him looking like a punch-drunk boxer on the sidelines? Took like 3 people to guide him to the stretcher.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
Unbelievable
1) Body slammed to ground
2) Head thuds on turf
3) Lays near-motionless on ground for a period of time
4) Requires 2 to 3 trainers to "walk under his own power" to bench
5) Taken to hospital by ambulance
6) ???
7) "Everything is fine"
8) "Braxton will play Saturday"
What is the answer to #6?
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6) It is determined that he
6) It is determined that he simply had the wind knocked out of him
By a trained hospital staff
By a trained hospital staff of doctors.
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in Columbus though....
so how reliable can the be?
/s
It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine
People on the internet are probably better
People on the internet are probably much better at diagnosing these things than doctors.
Hot dogs are the devil.
Of course.
When you say doctors you are referring to: Dr. Urban Meyer; Specialist in Football Injuries?
Im glad he is okay to play though. We want him at his best in November.
Even tho I'm sure most
Even tho I'm sure most doctors in columbus don't want to be the guy who doesn't let the star QB play on Saturday, I'm 100% sure no doctor anywhere wants to be the guy who clears a kid to play and his injury is compounded by their bad judgement.
I'm not sure when I saw Braxton tweak his knee a few weeks ago I thought he was done for the season only to return after a series. This week I thought the same thing. He either has a terribly low tolerance for pain, is a huge drama queen or is incredibly resilient. Who knows I'm just glad the kid is ok and able to play.
OSU needs Braxton for them to be undefeated when Michigan rolls into town to spoil their "perfect" season
They're saying he just had
They're saying he just had "whiplash." Just another case of trying to avoid saying, HE HAD A CONCUSSION.
They're saying he just had
Double post... yoops
#6= The Doctors at the
#6= The Doctors at the Hospital found out that nothing serious was wrong with him
Listen, I know we all want to shit on MSU and OSU for "doing whatever it takes to win" regardless of player safety, and maybe the Gholston thing is a little true. But I don't think that's the case here.
OSU fans may be crazy, but these Doctors would be risking a lot more than win/losses for a team if they cleared him when he shouldn't have been cleared.
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
Agreed. The prognosis from
Agreed. The prognosis from team doctors is one thing, where a coach could overrule...but being sent to a hospital and passing a battery of tests is different. My high school coach always said to ask the trainers, not family doctors, about injuries/rehab because the family doctors would err to the side of caution and have you sit out.
If Miller was sent to a hospital and passed tests, he's clear.
"Welllllllll..."
Probably where doctors other
Probably where doctors other than yourself did their job.
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6) Mass Effect 2 style
6) Mass Effect 2 style surgery; Game of Thrones style Gregor Clegane frankenstein surgery deal. Something along those lines are my guesses.
If we're talking OSU
Shouldn't "Profit" be in there somewhere?
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Boo Boo?
Is #6 "a boo boo"?
6) Fish oil, man... Fish oil.
6) You're insane
6) You're insane
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6) Doctors gave him some
6) Doctors gave him some sweetass tats for one signed Buckeye helmet (broken)
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I'm glad he's doing better.
I wish him a long, healthy career, punctuated by four physically painful, humiliating and emotionally-scarring games at the end of each regular season.
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"Regular" is redundant
"Regular" is redundant, at least for this year.
It does seem odd
Or amazing, however you want to look at it. I thought he was severly concussed after that hit. He couldn't even stand on his own. I really hope, for his sake, that there's no Tomfoolery going on with the coaching staff and doctors so they will clear him to play. In all honesty though, it's great he's been cleared as that would indicate that there's nothing wrong. I hate to see those players get hurt, no matter who they play for.
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Good lord man!
I thought he was out for the year for sure. Good for him, get back on the field young man, we want to beat you at full strength.
This doesn't seem right to
This doesn't seem right to me. I just can't believe that he passed all the tests. Were the tests just someone asking Braxton "Are you ready to play?". I keep thinking back to the 2010 Illinois game when RR held out Denard with the game, and his job, on the line even after he was cleared to play, because he wanted to be cautious. But the kid how can't hold himself up is ready to play? It's just un-fucking-believeable.
Totally. Those doctors must be so stupid.
I bet their years of medical training and practice didn't teach them as much as your access to the internet taught you.
Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.
HE CHECKED ON WEBMD. HE
HE CHECKED ON WEBMD. HE KNOWS THAT BRAXTON HAS A BRAIN ANEURYSM. THE SYMPTOMS ARE THERE. THE SYMPTOMS ARE THERE.
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Weird, I checked WebMD and
Weird, I checked WebMD and with those symptoms Miller definitely has Acute Hydrohodgens Insomdria Syndrome. He's got 4 months to live
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
come on.....
First of all he was taken out of a game they were losing, so that speaks to the fact that they are taing it seriously. Second, think of the context of the situation...Why would Meyer risk further injury to his start player in a season that literally means nothing to OSU. It makes no sense.
I'm pretty sure Meyer
I'm pretty sure Meyer wouldn't risk his meal ticket during a year he cannot play in the B1G Championship game or a bowl (much less the MNC) for a win over over Penn State. And as pointed out earlier - this isnt the frightened coaching staff making the call in the middle of the game a-la MSU - this a team of physicians who would face some serious malpractice litigation if they said he was ok and he really wasnt.
If they say he's ok then I believe he's ok.
He left the game for good,
He left the game for good, got taken to the hospital, I'm assuming for a full battery of tests and not just the "how many fingers am I holding up?" test they gave Gholston. Not a lot to be critical of here..
Not everyone responds to concussions the same way. Some people get stone cold knocked out with nothing more than a headache the next day, others have lingering issues over comparatively benign hits
Fingers test
If Ghoston can't count how many fingers the trainer holds up, do they declare him "normal"? This would explain a lot.
He was wobbly
Taylor knocked him on his ass a few times.
On Other Sites...
At least on Yahoo! Sports - here - Meyer is reported as saying that it was whiplash, and still other articles talked about a "whiplash-type" injury. Either way, it didn't look good on Saturday and I imagine he's still pretty sore if that is the case. Glad to hear that it is not nearly as bad as it initially looked though, and hopefully he is pain-free soon.
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Dantonio thinks he should
Dantonio thinks he should have been cleared for the overtime.
I love the posters who think
I love the posters who think they know more than the actual medical staff that evaluated him...did you guys happen to stay at a Holiday Inn last night or something?
You're close. It's not that
You're close. It's not that they know more than an actual medical staff it's that no mater what is said by someone from: OSU, MSU, ND or any SEC not named Vanderbilt they immediately just KNOW they are lying, cheating and generally up to no good. And only through the diligent and watchful eyes of these insightful posters is the world made aware of these schools obvious and continual chincanery.
Not sure
Are you implying that it's an erroneous assumption?
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Honestly, with the way he
Honestly, with the way he landed, the amount of pain he appeared to be in and the way he seemed to be favoring one side, it sounds like an exceptionally bad "stinger"-type injury. Those hurt like a mofo and can cause weakness, but they usually go away within hours (at most) and is certainly something where he'd be cleared to play for next week.
^^This^^ I did not have the
^^This^^ I did not have the benifit of examing him but I do have a medical degree and last week attended a CME lecture on concussions (and stayed at a Holiday Inn Express...boom). How in the world Ghoulson was ever put back in the game a few weeks ago is inexcusable/unexplainable. You literally can diagnose a concussion on the couch in that case. NOT in this one. He went to the hospital, they did the tests. A stinger/whiplash or other temporary nerve stretch irritation is a very plausable and a more likely diagnosis for his injury. He was in obvious, immediate pain, which is actually not normally the biggest symptom of a concussion. I would be not suprised if he was symptom free and practiced today without any struggles if this was the case.
and perhaps
some folks just take themselves too seriously...there's a reason it's called a blog and people post entries. I don't recall anyone making a critical diagnosis in any of the aforementioned posts or threads. I've read a lot of opinions, and many on either side have had good arguments. There are however always a few who have this line of perfection that each word is some truth or critical judgement of right versus wrong instead of taking blogging for what it is, a bunch of computer hacks posting their opinions and making analogy from them. Some of you need to take life a bit easier and not take everything so literal. So what some people were astounded he walked away, so what some people questioned the decision. Welcome to blogging and sharing ideas. This isn't a final exam question, it's called genuine discussion...
personally it looked like one hell of a hit, and very typical with concussion type injury. His reaction/lack of movement/staggering gate after the play sure looked like a more serious injury. Would it be above that program to disguise the reality or take greater chances? I'd say tatgate says otherwise. AFTER full evaluation if they determined he's fine, so be it. Those who said he was fine can put a little gold star on your folder and smuggly laugh at those of us who thought the injury was worse than it was being taken for face value. The video sure looked worse. Glad he's fine. I'd hate to see anyone cut short in their career, regardless of their University.
If he was sent to the
If he was sent to the hospital to be evaluated by a team of medical professionals, and he was clear to play, then he's good to me.
Wish him the best. Penn State isn't going to be easy.
Maybe he won't play, though.
His back-up won the game anyway, and what do they really have to play for this year that is worth the risk? Meyer might show the character that Kelly showed last week by letting his recently injured starter rest for a game. If Meyer is undefeated this year, how does he improve on it for next year?
Glad to hear he is OK
It was a frightening how he was swung down to the turf and landed on his left side of the helmet. He then appeared to be very dizzy and disoriented while walking over to get on the cart. Head injuries are really scary.
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