A lot of noise going on at the Rivals msg board that Smith has left the team. Has anybody heard anything to support this this claim? Credible poster so it seems legit.
Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
Yeah, unfortunately it seems like it's true. I don't know what's being said on Rivals, but I've heard that he has received his release papers.
Obviously this could change, because I've heard he's wanted to transfer before, but it seems like it's going to happen.
Thanks Tom! I wish Brandon the best of luck. Tom, is there anybody on the recruiting "radar" that you see UM trying to get to fill Smith's spot? When I say "spot" I mean added depth at a position of need.
The 2008 recruiting class was part Carr and part RR, so we've seen a lot of attrition out of that class. It sucks, but I think it's relatively normal.
Another hit to our secondary, good luck Brandon Smith.
Uh...Dude, he moved to LB a while ago.
you must not follow the team...the only time he got any action in a meaningful game was at FS against wisc. he started there. second to last week of the season.
Brandon Smith was moved to linebacker at the end of spring practice. He played there the entire season, EXCEPT when it got to Wisconsin week and our free safeties hadn't been getting the job done. The coaches moved him to FS to help in run support for that one week. That's it.
And the hits keep coming
When it rains it pours. Dammit!
he wasnt going to fill an important role next year? he was still young, bounced around, but he saw the field against wiscy and alot of us actually thought he played well (could have been played well relatively to who he replaced)
either way this hurts a defense already thin.
Although for this specific situation I agree with you, there are always exceptions to the rule. See Ryan Mallett or Sam McGuffie.
so, yes, you couldn't say it was unexpected.
Maybe Sheridan can play his position.
surely some good news has to come for this athletic department soon. this is getting depressing.
was he the one involved in the sexual case earlier this season?
It was an 18 year old freshman.
any chance that this has to do with him not having a "true" postion, or because he has been buried on the depth chart???
I would not have much confidence in a group that can't find a spot for you. The kid only had one game against an oversized line at Wisky so I am not really sure what he is fully capable of. I wish we had been able to find out a bit more.
I heard about this on another blog.
I guess he has been talking to Toney Clemons.
with the fbook comments that the site you linked to posted, it sounds like a huge case of "they don't respect my skill so i'm gettin the fuck out." aka "i'm better than being on a depth chart" - not exactly a team attitude
why do these guys keep leaving?
what do they think is going to be so much better somewhere else?
Man, this sucks. I just saw him a few days ago with Martavious and Brandin Hawthorne at the diag party store. They all seemed like they were having a good time. I thought he could have been an impact player.
Red shirt freshman, he played one season and now he wants to leave. He could have made an impact in 2010, anything would have helped. Maybe he didn't like the idea of us going after 6 DB's and possibly 2 or 3 more committing by Feb? Added to his positioning on our roster this past season.
Well great, who needs scholarship players on defense anyways?
Apparently wanted safety but not in the cards....Will really miss his special teams effort. Go Blue!
Depth is a good thing, especially on defense - Smith leaving will hurt this depth.
That being said, I know sources close to the team (who partake in practice, not gonna say whether they are players, managers or coaches) that say Smith has always been a bit of a quandry. Don't know what to do with him.
His running style is weird - he expends alot of energy and isn't very fast. One source said "I wouldn't be surprised if he ran a 5.5 forty"
Not knocking the kid, but his size may not translate into excellence on the field
He played well up close to the line of scrimmage against Wisconsin. If you can knock blockers back you're in business. Stevie Brown is gone, and I'm pretty sure Smith would have been good in his position.
Well, that's disappointing.
he didnt seem to fast..i hate how kids think that they dont need to work and practice hard to start or play minutes.but i hope its not true we need depth. maybe this is the reason they picked up ray
but from what i understand smith thinks he's a safety, he's obviously not fast enough to play safety. he doesn't wanna play LB so how good is he gonna become at it? this is probably the best move for him
Robocop please punch me in the face and wake me up when this is over...
This is really too bad. He was just starting to get on the field and he seemed like he might develop into a good player for us (I don't really know, but I was at least hopeful). It sucks that we can't even replace him this year.
One technical question about signing I have is if you're currently under the number of scholarships and there are limits on the number of guys you can take in one year, how do you ever catch up to the maximum? I'm sure this is obvious, but I'll admit I'm a little slow.
we can get Larry Foote to moonlight at LB next season?
Please report to the equipment manager to switch out your reciever's pads for linebacker's pads.
There have been rumors over at Scout from their insiders that Cam Gordon has already been moved to linebacker.
Thanks for passing that on.
A quick look at the roster shows Gordon is listed at 6-2 208. That's probably not ideal size for a Will or Mike in our system, but an off-season of weights might see him get up to 220 without losing speed.
It's not that big of a deal. He had all the potential in the world. But how often does production ever match potential really? Fact of the matter is...
...He was behind walk-on soph Kevin Leach at WLB (his probable long-term position).
...He was behind walk-on frosh Floyd Simmins at SLB.
...He was behind walk-on frosh Jordan Kovacs at FS.
How many all-americans do you know that couldn't beat out at least 1 of 3 walk-ons of relatively the same age? I can't think of any. So long and best of luck.
I really hope your observations are as accurate as they are encouraging.
Because I'm completely confused by the "new recruiting rule" conversations swirling about, forgive me when I ask, "Doesn't this open up another scholly for us this year?"
No. We had room to take 25 players. This transfer will probably leave us one short of the 85 limit next year.
along with JT Floyd & Cissoko on Thursday. Now this wouldn't be so unusual if the football bust wasn't that day, what time was the bust? They were definitely there Thursday evening at 6pm
Is Cissoko still enrolled in school?
and these players were at the ccrb at or around the time of the bust, that means that jt floyd wasnt at the bust either?
cissoko would make sense since hes not with the team anymore, smith would make sense since apparently he's leaving, but jt floyd?
edit: the bust was at 6 pm
This isn't second hand info, I saw this with my own eyes in person. They left around 6:30pm with gym gear on, so I'm assuming they weren't in route to the bust, and they didn't appear to be in a huge hurry either.
Cissoko is still in school, and there is a chance he could be back on the football team next year. A slight chance, but still a chance. He hasn't transferred yet, (I believe the deadline is January 1st) and he is still in school.
I'm hoping for some kind of rule change that allows us to replace players that transferred this year. I have no idea how many scholarships players transferred this year, but being able to replace those players to the 25 we are "allowed" to sign would be nice. Either way loosing Smith hurts.
I think it is called the walk on program. Definitely not a talent for talent swap though.
...but you come out ahead on desire and work ethic, for what those are worth.
You also may come out ahead on football aptitude. Some of these higher ranked athletes are obviously missing that.
Smith is quick but due to his funny running style, he lacks that all important closing speed. This will not be a loss for the defense. However, his special teams play was admirable and that part of his game may be missed.
This is a diferent era, and kids have a lot more information and instant contact with other players all over the country without running up unaffordable phone bills. Also, this generation of players seems to be a lot less patient about playing time than others have been. I think a lot of it could also be their parents telling them they are "better" than they really are, and pressuring them to leave any situation they deem "unacceptable."
It's not just UM, but it's pretty much everywhere now. Kids who don't get what they want right now go to the next place that tells them they will get what they want. Usually, they still don't get what they want at the next place, but by then they apparently either don't want to go through the BS again or they mature and become humbled by finally percieving their own limitations. The difference at UM is that it is harder to accept transfer students than it is at other universities, so the out/in ratio gets skewed compared to other schools.
Anyway, stuff happens. UM will be fine. As for Smith, I'm neutral. I don't wish him ill, but I don't wish him good luck, either. I would rather save my wishes for players who play at UM.
If he creates a shitstorm on the way out, though, I reserve the right to wish bad things for him.
I would also throw in the higher profile recruiting has taken on in recent years. Not only do these kids have coaches blowing smoke up their ass for, in some cases, a few years before they get on campus, but they also have people from the five different websites covering each of the teams they are considering calling them constantly and hanging on their every word. They all probably think they deserve more than they are getting when the reality of playing in a top-notch D-1 program hits home.
Emmanuel Moody stands out to me as a prime example of this. He left USC despite getting carries early in his career because they had a big group of highly touted tailbacks, then he transferred to Florida where he has probably seen the field even less. There are probably tons of other examples, too, but I think you are right on with respect to how many players react when the reality of college football doesn't meet their pre-signing day expectations.
Mustain was a pretty highly touted QB who went to Arkansas, transferred to USC and is now holding a clipboard as a third stringer at USC.
Meanwhile, Mallett is putting up HUGE numbers at Arkansas in Bobby Petrino's pass happy offense.
Of course, the ultimate "transfer at the first sign of adversity" guy has got to be Steve Threet. GA Tech, UM, now ASU. I'd be willing to bet that he transfers at least one more time. What's odd is that he keeps transferring to other BCS schools. You'd think he'd realize that he needs to drop down to FCS or even Div II if he wants a shot at seeing the field.
I think his issue had more to do with Arkansas hiring his high school coach (Malzahn) to get him and his teammates to come play for the Razorbacks, then canning him halfway through their freshman season. With the success Gus has had since leaving Arkansas, I don't think you can blame him and Williams (who has been a stud receiver at SC) for leaving.
I was more referring to guys who think they deserve to be "the man" no matter what, only to find out that there is tough competition for playing time at any big-time football program.
LB/S Brandon Smith will go home for the holidays and determine his future at Michigan. Hope the kid stays, if not . The issue is Smith wants to play S and Michigan saying he outgrew the position and is now a LB.