Mark Hollis had good intentions-but made a mistake. Not appropriate to tweet one of our student-athletes. Won't happen again. End of story.
Brandon pimp hands Hollis
Yeah I'm sure he had good intentions.
Good intentions of trying to lure Trey to the NBA cause Hollis is scared about Blue domination next year!
Big brother stepping in and putting little bro in his place.
I can't stop laughing right now.
Looks like big brother just stuck little brother's head in the toilet.
Did Hoke hack Brandon's Twitter account again?
I don't speak twitter but if you read in between the lines of Brandon's comment it reads like this. "I told that second rate bitch that he better not step out of line again. He will not and from now on he will sit whenever he pees."
It's more comfortable. When you get up at night you don't have to turn the light on and wake up. And you get to read. While you're peeing all over your shoes, I'm learning something.
Larry David sits down when he pees. Then again, he also happens to enjoy wearing women's panties...
Yes but it's purely for comfort.
Sitting while you pee is pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
I've never been able to read in the dark.
But I thought you sit on the toilet facing the back, so you have that nice little shelf for your comic book and your chocolate milk? Because then you have the flusher right here. No? Jeez, that's embarassing.
Skapanza, I was reading the posts in this thread and while I found them entertaining, I then saw yours and starting laughing my ass off! Thanks for the giggle dude!
Thanks, all credit goes to South Park though. Butters at his best.
Talk about public rebuke. Brandon just made Hollis look childish, to be sure.
Man if this is all real, what an embarassment for Sparty.
It is. And it is.
Totally agree. I'm pretty sure he was just trying to give some friendly advice, but it was out of line professionally.
Naturally Hollis, being a Sparty, doesn't grasp the difference between "is" and "are." What a yokel. Probably drank too much shine tonight.
...that any conversation was merely a friendly reminder...
As Jim Rome would say Twitter is a loaded gun that will go off at some point apparently Hollis didn't get the memo
I still don't get why he even Tweeted that in the first place? Only at MSU
Pimp handing than I do...
You're a real grump today.
and boom goes the dynamite
Maybe I misunderstood something, but I thought Hollis just encouraged Trey to follow his own heart. I thought it was a sign of respect from Hollis that he tweeted at all, especially given the #respect. But Brandon has to control the universe, so I'm sure the emperor feels better that he has announced to world that he is back in control again. I know I feel safer again.
What good could possibly come from allowing rival AD's to contact our athletes? Actually, Hollis committed an NCAA violation when he Tweeted Burke, nothing major, but it was against the rules.
Beyond the weirdness of it (can you imagine Brandon Tweeting Draymond Green?), Hollis should be the last person offering Burke advice, any advice.
I think there is room for that in the universe. But i agree it was wierd, probably shouldn't have happened, esp. if it violates the sacred NCAA edicts. So ultimately, I agree with you, it's just that i'm more irritated by the emperor's need to dominate every effing aspect of life. Did he really need to assure all the little people that it won't happen again? PHEW!! Thanks Dave, for responding so thoroughly to the bat-call!! Martial law by Brandon is like a warm blanket.
I'm thinking that was directed more at Hollis personally. Either way, Brandon is paid (in part) to play guardian to, what, 500+ athletes? I'd be overly defensive at something like this if I was in his shoes, as well. Given the disparity in status (student-athlete vs. high ranking university executive), Burke can't very well say anything, and it's Brandon's job to intervene.
I think Brandon did a great job handling this. There's nothing MSU can say publicly other than agree, and he's made it clear that he won't overlook behavior like this from his peers.
Well said and reasoned.
There is also the possibility that Brandon was receiving many (dozens? hundreds?) of complaints from concerned UM students, alumni, fans, etc. Maybe he felt the need to publicly respond given all the complaints he got?
But I guess you don't need to consider that possibility when it seems you have such direct & inside access to Dave Brandon's psyche, and therefore know all his motives.
...that anyone is taking exception to the sentiment, or the content of the advice. In question is the appropriateness of an AD reaching out to Burke at all, and of course the grammar... Fergodsakes.
If you ever read Hollis' twitter eed, the guy is an absolute child with that thing. It often veers way into mouthbreathing-fan territory when, realistically, this guy is the professional face of a major D-1 athletic department. It's about time he acted like it. You'd think he'd have figured out the gravity of his position, you know, the second he took the job.
Your name is Mark Hollis
Hollis is just communicating with his audience haha
Our AD knows how to spell as well... so proud. Brandon = UM Grad. Hollis... you guessed it.
Hollis apologize not Brandon apologizing for him.
But this will never happen.
Boom! Well there u go.
Hollis has done a few things now that make me think he isn't up to the job of being AD for a major university. When you screw up bad enough that your colleagues from a rival institution call you on it, you know you screwed up.
And let's hope for everyone's sake that he never ends up at a major university.
We need a "Oh Snap" moderation tag
Oh yeah! That just happened......
I still can't for the life of me see how he thought this was a good idea. He had to be drinking or something. He is an AD at a somewhat major University :) and you just can't make mistakes like this. This makes him look really, really bad. Dave Brandon on the other hand.....looks like the man.
Now go to your room Mark
they always have to follow Michigan events, games, issues. Will you ever see at Michigan coach or AD making a similar comment about sparty. I only watch sparty when they play us. Seems like they are obsessed with following Michigan and commenting about Michigan. I guess they should be... since we are Michigan.
It seems that Mark Hollis is stupid, drinks, or both. I wonder how many drunken phone calls lil bro made to uninterested girls as an undergrad.
Why are you qualifying this with "as an undergrad?"
Sparty co-eds beware...Ole Mark has got a couple Natty Lites in um and he's lookin 2 score.
especially those in the public eye, but one would think that the athletic director of a BCS conference school would have more important and pressing matters at hand than to do this. Nevertheless, I can't stop laughing at everyone's reactions.
Brandon-> almost everyone else -> Hollis -----------------------> and then Gene Smith
Hollis' tweet was weird but harmless. I don't think it was an NCAA violation. The whole thing is overblown.
Hollis and Brandon are friends. They talked about it over the phone and brandon didn't mind. Also, Hollis and Burke know each other personally. More than the hundreds of Michigan fans tweeting at him trying to give him "advice"
How/why would Burke know the AD at MSU personally, and how could you possibly know this?
Hollis may be a good friend of Burke but that really isn't relevant. As someone who is truly thoughtful about the kid, the situation, and how to be a classy professional, you do not tweet him. Write him an email or text. Maybe send a handwritten note like an adult. Hollis needs to be smart enough to understand what is acceptable behavior of a professional AD and also what is in the best interest of his friend. A newsworthy story can only be a distraction for both people. You would think Hollis would know better.
To be fair, an Email or Text looks a lot more suspicious to the NCAA (Even though it isn't a violation) than a public tweet. The tweet is there for everyone to see so nothing is hidden, whereas in an email or text he could be telling him anything privately.
is a violation, without Dave Brandon's written consent. Period.
Hollis and Brandon play golf once a year and DB does his best to play nice while Hollis seems as if he's a half-in-the-bag fan most of the time. Friends? I don't know. DB just gave him a public bitch-slapping via tweet. Hollis may consider finding the sort of friend around whom he doesn't seem like an intellectually underequipped puppy.
For Sparty maybe..but NOBODY else..Looks like MSU understands that the UM program is growing each and every year and he will stop at nothing to quash that..Including trying to lure our star to the NBA early...SHAME on him and MSU
trying to decide what to eat for lunch and hollis just came out of nowhere screaming "you is the decider!" at me...please advice on what to do from here
DB will order for you.
Is anyone else annoyed by Brandon's general demeanor? I don't like the "end of story" statement at all. Who the f-ck is he to tell people they should stop talking about something they obviously care about? His attitude smacks of "my sh-t don't smell" and it comes out in all of his public dealings.
From my reading of it, he would have been better off putting a comma between "won't happen again" and "end of story". I don't think he was trying to say we shouldn't talk about it, just that another AD wouldn't Tweet a M student athlete again.
What would you have preferred him to have said here?
It implies that Hollis is his puppet and it just oozes with arrogance. Jeez, show a bit more respect to Hollis, there's no need for DB to try to show he's in such ultimate control of the universe. I actually suspect the man is insecure, go figure.
I thought Brandon was more than charitable here. He could have condemned Hollis for acting in a completely inappropriate fashion. I read that last line as saying, "We'll leave this alone, but if you do this again, we'll report you to the NCAA." If Hollis wants more "respect" than that, he should show some himself.
I just have a jaded view of DB
I read it as Brandon telling all those that are complaining/contacting him about it to leave him alone. As in "I've already responded to Hollis so stop bothering me about it because I'm not going to respond further."
This is an ongoing thing for me, so I understand it's the lens through which I tend to see DB most of the time, and it may distort my vision. That said, my view is that the man's ego is just too big.
DB is a DB but he's our DB.
I interpreted the "end of story" as a message to the public, including M fans, to not fret about the now dead issue.
Hollis herp derped and failed to adhere to a rule. David Brandon could have called for some sort of action, but chose not to with the understanding that the intent wasn't bad in nature. Now MSU's AD is aware of his gaffe, which hopefully will prevent him from making the same mistake twice.
Nothing to see here.