Per ESPN, Brandon is not moving up his timetable to evaluate RichRod.
Brandon Not Pushing Up Timetable on Rodriguez per ESPN
I think it's more an indication of the state of college athletics that people can't just take him at his word. He said "after the season is over." Then he had to reiterate that that meant after the bowl game. Now he has to reiterate it again, and probably will several more times before the bowl game.
Also, does anyone know when David Brandon will begin evaluating Rodriguez? I know he's said after the bowl game, but I'm wondering if anything has changed since five minutes ago.
Latest I had hear was after the season is over but not sure if that is after the bowl game or not. Never know what to make of all his coded messages and tweets. Not sure if we should take him for his word on this one.
Surely this could help us break his code
BE SURE TO EAT YOUR DOMINO'S
A crummy commercial?
Son of a bitch!
But wait! After this reiteration I still don't believe DB!! Because I just heard from a confident Alum that OSU and Michigan were gonna do a straight head coach swap! RR to OSU and Tressel is coming here!
And then someone on bleacherreport said that Urban Meyer is coming to be our defensive coordinator!
And then I read on someone's twitter account that Mack Brown wants to be our QB coach!!
And I'm just gonna start spreading rumors that Devin Hester is gonna coach Special Teams!
OMFGZ!!!!!! Why does DB keep lying to us?!?!
My favorite movie of the Christmas Season!
That sorta was the decoder ring.
If I had the ability to +1 you, I would!
He made millions of dollars selling pizza that was made with something that wasn't real cheese.
We know he says this but just like everyone else you know the guy has to have an opinion on the subject right here and now. Right or wrong that's what the media is trying to get out of him.
They're trying to get him to slip on something so they can write more speculation articles.
I actually wish he wouldn't be so adamant about the 'after the bowl game' timetable. There is no reason to limit himself just to give the media an answer they can print. If he has no intention of firing RR he should say that and end all of the speculation. If he is open to that possibility, he should leave himself the option to do that whenever the situation presents itself. There is absolutely nothing that he could see in a bowl game that should override the body of work already on film this season. There should be plenty of evidence one way or the other to handle any evaluations. The only reason I can see to wait until the bowl to decide is if one or more of the coaches he would be considering as a replacement have told him that they wouldn't be available openly until after their bowl game, and he learned a little something from the Les Miles fiasco. This is making me lean towards thinking DB has already probably decided. No inside sources, just an educated guess.
after the bowl game, my status will not change until then.
I think it's an indication of the 24/7 news cycle and the race to scoop the story. I don't envy anyone even remotely in the public eye having to deal with that.
The situation swirling around Rodriguez's status might turn into a circus at the team's banquet Thursday night because Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh plans to be there to be honored along with his 1985 teammates.
Dave Brandon has been secretly filming a reality show about this season, and the moment when he announces the switch (RR for Harbaugh) at the bust will be the climax. This guy does have a mind for business.
Headcoaches of Michigan Stadium.
This is quickly becoming the Falcon Crest of college football.
Kinda sorta like "Dallas", but with acting and plot lines that were not as good.
I was just going to post this. I can't imagine that would make for a very comfortable meeting between Harbaugh and RR (assuming he's going).
I have to confess, I LOL'd at "(assuming he's going)".
Oh geez. Can DB be any more clear? These journalists are morons
It's pathetic, the media wants drama that is all they care about and they want to be the first ones to bust the article about RR getting fired.. so everyone is busting brandon's balls non stop.
I wouldn't be able to take it if i was Brandon. He already knows what he is gonna do. There can't be anything that he is waiting to see in the bowl game that he hasn't already seen.
The only reason i can imagine he would wait to fire him is that he would wait till after Jan 1, cause the buyout drops like 1.5 million dollars or some shit. Which would be an incredibly stupid idea because of how it would ruin this whole recruiting class.
Or he doesn't have things lined up for the next guy and doesn't want the circus that we had last time.
I've been thinking about this in those terms. If I were to evaluate one of my subordinates it would be an ongoing process. I think that's why we've seen him on the sidelines so many times this year.
I think no matter what camp you are in, there is no way for RR to recover from the loss of support. This was the pivotal year and he didn't exactly knock it out of the park.
I don't know about a pivotal year.. Unless brandon had very high expectations with such a young team. I think we should of beat MSU this year, but i still couldn't see us beating Wisc or OSU
We were picked by about every publication to go 7-5, and we did. Now if brandon has made the decision, whether to keep RR, or fire Gerg is yet to be seen. Im sure we will know soon enough.
IMHO the AD of any school in the B10 would use B10 wins as a higher criteria than Baby Seal wins. That's where I see the erosion of support coming from.
Personally, I didn't see us beating Wisc or tOSU because we're not there yet. But Iowa, PSU, and MSU were games that we could have won (on paper). Barely beating Illinois & Indiana and a less than stellar output against a Purdue team that fits the definition of decimated even more than our defense got many fans off the fence on RR's future.
So yes, 7-5 was the consensus and I thought 8-4 was within reach but I don't think it will be enough with the tidal wave of negative energy surrounding RR right now. It's a toxic environment that I don't think anyone could recover from. If you're DB and even remotely thinking about pulling the trigger...now is the time because the masses will be more tolerant of a mediocre year under a new coach just like many (the sane ones) excused year 1 under RR.
and the bowl game? Aren't these student athletes, and don't they have grades coming out around the bowl game, and does that factor into the equation for a college football program, or am I just too naive to think it does?
We could do a one hour show on ESPN and call it "The Decision" or something.....
Nahh, it would never work.
People have +1ed you for this quality post. You should take your talents elsewhere....
Good for DB. I'm glad he's sticking to his guns. The Harbaugh thing is concerning though.
As expected, the MSM is looking like a bunch of bears around a beehive.
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In my book, Brandon gets an extra point for every day he stiff-arms those jacka$$es. It wouldn't be the same if he hadn't already said that he'd wait until the end of the season.
I saw somewhere where RichRod has a smaller buyout >=Jan 1st. 2.5 instead of 4.0 million. Maybe this is where it's headed.
Although, I think DB is waiting to see how RichRod handles practices and preparations for the bowl, etc.
Honestly, now I just want the program to return to prominence regardless of the leader. 3 years has worn me out.
The most telling quote for me was when my wife looked at me Saturday and said, "I've never seen Michigan beat Ohio State, so why do you waste your day?". Ouch.....
Sounds like your wife needs to quit watching. She's ruining it for all of us.
or really, really (really) young?
Now to the poster below, this is respectable snark.
What part of Mississippi are you both from?
My wife is from Venezuela and only started watching football when we got married, 7 years ago.
I guess we are reduced to calling out spouses now? Tread softly.
the less round sort of football. My American wife prefers that I watch without her. It's probably best for us both.
I can't help but imagine, when I read your comment, the voice of 'the most interesting man in the world'. Just saying.
michigan_fball Michigan Football
No Monday Press Conference today but we'll hold one once the team learns its bowl fate (likely a week from today). #goblue
10 minutes ago
Just posted on the official michigan football twitter account.
"DaveBrandonAD Dave Brandon
Receiving much advice re: our FB program. Appreciate the passion & interest. Many thanks to @desmond_howard for his confidence & support."
Just posted on Dave Brandon's twitter an hour ago.
is just making sure keeping RR is the right option. Im sure he sees the improvement with the offense. DB has seen the team show progress on defense. IMO DB doesn't want another coaching fiasco that happened three years ago. Possibily he is letting RR look around for a job, until Jan 1st his buyout drops from 4.5 million, to 2.5 million. I can't see why he needs another 4 or 5 weeks to keep everyone in the dark with his decision. Why wait until Randy Shannon gets another job? (defense coordinator for RR) Or until JH or any other possible replacement coaches in their bowl game. Definately be a shorter recruiting period if there were to be a change. I see RR staying, but crossing my fingers for a change to the defensive staff, even promote Bruce Tall to DC.
does the buyout go down January 1, but waiting until after the Bowl games allows Harbaugh to coach Stanford in its BCS bowl, a suiting sendoff for Harbaugh. Of course, it coul impact recruiting, but if you think about it, a decision mid-December wouldn't be much different.
Beat me to it.
This is why I think Brandon is waiting until after the bowl season.
If he is, he's an idiot..
This will complete waste the recruiting year. We could lose a lot of recruits because of this and would only give the new coach less than a month to recruit..? Give me a break tha would be incredibly stupid.. Unless Brandon is so cocky he doesn't think ruining a recruiting class matters
I don't disagree that waiting all the way until after Stanford's bowl would cripple recruiting, but it might be a sacrifice Brandon has to make. If he's got his mind set on Harbaugh, he has to wait. The promise of Harbaugh might outweigh the lost recruits in Brandon's mind.
I agree that waiting isn't necessarily a bad thing. The part that bothers me about waiting is it is just fueling the negativity that is engulfing this program already. I will back whatever they do, whether RR stays or they bring in Harbaugh. I think the silence in not publicly backing RR has to carry some weight...
I just want to know and not have to hear our local media just bash the program for a month which DOES hurt recruiting. We do not have the luxury of depth where an off recruiting class won't set us back.
If we do have to wait on the HC spot, at least ship Gerg & his stuffed beaver out ASAP.
If we do have to wait on the HC spot, at least ship Gerg & his stuffed beaver out ASAP.
hire a defensive coordinator that can differentiate his head from his ars...The D isn't cutting it, hire a big time D Coordinator and let him run his defense with his staff. Let RR concentrate solely on offense.
Dave Brandon waiting until the bowl game is over to make a decision makes a lot of sense from a firing/hiring apsect. It's really a win/win regardless of whether he keeps RR. If he keeps RR he looks like he is being patient and making an informed decision.
However, if he fires RR and waits until after bowl season, he won't put a coach in the position of having to leave his program before the bowl (see Brian Kelly). It creates a lot of uneeded animosity among coaches and former schools.
Just my 2 cents
Maybe he wants to evaluate the whole season. Or maybe he doesn't want a knee jerk decision and wants to contemplate the situation. I think the further away from this season he gets, and the closer to next season, increases the likelihood he keeps Coach Rod. Just my epinion.
If the team comes out and loses and looks just as sloppy as they have the past two weekends, it may not bold well for Rich Rod, however if they win the bowl game in convincing fashion, odds our DB will give Rich Rod one more year.
I think DB keeps RR for one more year. I think (Greg) Robinson will most likely be fired though. I think that the offensive improvement leads RR to be retained, while the defensive decline leads to Robinson's firing. I think that one of the keys to retaining RR is the amount of returning starters on both sides of the ball. The offense returns starters at 9 offensive positions if you count Koger, losing only Schilling and Dorrestein. Their replacements would be Barnum and Huyge, with Lewan at LT. So, basically one new player.
On the defensive side of the ball, only 4 key players are lost to graduation: Banks, Ezeh, Mouton and Rogers. Woolfolk replaces Rogers and that is an upgrade. Ezeh had already lost his job to Demens and Banks usually came off the bench. So, that basically leaves Mouton to be replaced by any number of players from: Jones, Bell, Furman, Fitzgerald, or another younger player (not likely.)
While it is frustrating for us, as fans, I guess that there are positives and negatives of waiting until after Jan 1 to decide. To me, waiting until Jan 1 only has positives if RR is going to be fired, and only has negatives if RR is going to be kept:
1. If RR is fired, the buy-out drops by $1.5 million. This $$ could be used to secure a better coach and DC.
2. If RR is fired, we are not in a Les Miles types position, where possible targets are forced to hold press conferences disclaiming any interest in the job and reaffirming their loyalty to their current schools that are about to play in a BCS Bowl.
1. Allows uncertaintly to hang over the program for a month. If RR is going to be kept, why do this?
2. Negative recruiting - you can bet that the Vest, Dantonio, Kelly and every other coach that is going up against us in a recruiting battle is going to harp on the uncertainty surrounding our program. "Son, do you really want to go to Michigan? You don't even know who you will end up playing for. Hell, they might switch schemes again in 2 more years." Pretty powerful stuff for a kid making the most important decision of his life. Hard to recruit with this hanging out there.
I know that my list is incomplete. Please point out some positives / negatives that contradict my view.
I agree with your points, but you may want to look at it from a different angle. DB is an sharp businessman. Why think about paying a buyout when you may be able to get rid of RR for nothing or even have another college pay you? This could be a NET GAIN of several million $$$ for the Athletic Dept.
Waiting now until after the bowl season has many more postives than negatives. DB is not going to ruin the Team banquet this week by making any moves and disrupting it for the players. Makes sense that their coach ,RR, be there.
It may be a game of cat and mouse we are watching. In a business deal always try and let the person across the table make the first offer. DB has very little to lose by waiting. If he has a coach lined up it takes the heat of that coach until after his bowl game. Keeping the current staff allows continuity and the players to focus on the task of winning a bowl game.
Rumors are rampant as to what is going to happen. I have no idea, but watch what Miami does in the near future. If they don't make any annoucements, maybe RR is their man and they will have to wait on DB's time table or make the first move.
deserves to coach the team in the bowl game, since he led them to it. Maybe he realizes a bowl win would help recruiting (it would), and we have the best chance to win with RR at the helm (we do), since he built our offense.
Either way I agree with the decision to wait. Either way #2, I look forward to setting a new course and getting on with it, whether it be with a new DC or HC. Honestly though, the thing pissing me off the most right now is special teams, and no matter what, the head coach is responsible for the program and all its parts. Corporate guys usually think along these lines too, BTW.
If I had to guess, they're already scheduling to remodel the offices at Schembechler Hall (since they will all be empty the 2nd week of January). Redecorating is so much easier when there's less stuff to move.
I've been a pretty staunch defender of the smooth Pimp Hand for his entire tenure here, but... I just don't understand this. Especially if Brandon is going to continually tease the speculation with tweets about Desmond and the lack of press conferences. It's bizarre.
This whole thing just reeks of a "call me after the bowl game, wink wink" discussion with a certain west-coast coach, because anything else would have had the same "we support our head football coach" line we got from both Bill Martin and Mary Sue Coleman in the past. He's leaving RR out in the wilderness right now, and it just doesn't smell right for a coach that will still be employed come January 1.
I see it more as, the season isn't over yet, and he doesn't want to make a decision and go back on his word. I don't think he ever said he doesn't "support" the coach. He just never said he would not fire him after the season.
Does this mean that there is a press conference today. ;<)
Even with a late start, Harbaugh's recruiting class could be more than decent if he brings some of his better Stanford recruits along. He has put together a good class and they obviously have the academics to get into Michigan.
Thats what I was thinking too, even if richrod were to get fired, and harbaugh were to come in, it may not hurt recruiting too much. If anything possibly could improve it, last I saw he had a pretty good recruiting class going for this year. There is a chance that some of them will follow, and if he can manage to make some the mich recruits stay in the process then we might not get hurt too bad. Not to mention the young talent already on the team. Also, i was wondering, if harbaugh were to be hired lets say this week or something, maybe then Harbaugh makes an appearance at the Big Chill to greet all of the fans, bring some passion back to the football team.
It's the media's job to get an answer out of DB! He's playing this coy, cagey CEO game. You really think DB isn't dealing with this until January -- that right now he's concentrating on volleyball and women's tennis? You really think he doesn't already have a solid opinion about RR? He'd be the only one in Michigan who doesn't. And he's an ex-football player in charge of the football team. Of course he's dealing with this right now. It will be the biggest decision of his career as AD.
Brandon is being non-committal because he's exploring his options and isn't sure what those are. Is Harbaugh available? If not, would it be better to stick with RR? If it's Harbaugh, maybe Harbaugh insists on first coaching his bowl game. Plus, the payout to RR would decrease in January. Plus, DB won't commit to another coach until he knows he's got that coach. Remember how Bill Martin bungled the last search? I'm sure DB doesn't want to put M in a position of looking jilted and desperate. Smart executives plan three steps ahead. If he really doesn't begin mulling options until January, then decides make a change, then goes shopping, he's shopping from a weaker position. And he's got no coach right before recruiting signing-day? He'd be totally hosing this team. He damn sure isn't sitting on his hands.
Again: If DB felt good about RR, he'd say so. Why wouldn't he? Delay only further destabilizes things. It holds RR over a barrel. It freaks out players and recruits. It irritates and divides the fan-base. And the fan-base, in essence, pays his salary.
The media is, of course, deeply flawed in many ways. But it has a great bullshit-detector. It knows DB is giving us CEO-speak. It know he's a spinner. It's the media's duty to press the powers-that-be for candor and action. DB can always say "no comment." But he can't get away with spin.
... DB realizes that you don't fire a coach unless you have a better one lined up.
Plus, a school like Michigan having to rip a coach out of a school pre- conference championship looks lame.
Bill Martin arranged things so we were jilted by Greg Schiano, after the Village Idiot Herbstreit gave Les Miles a quickie raise by LSU.
Unless there is some erosion of trust between RichRod and DB/MSC, this is a hard decision. As disappointing as the last three seasons are, how many coaches are (a) demonstrably better than RichRod and (b) would really move?
The only clear one I see is Jim Harbaugh, and he will likely have the pick of a few NFL openings (beyond the crappy 49ers gig). He is certainly gone if Andrew Luck enters the draft. If there is a draft...
... and please, none of this:
You've got to assume he's basically made up his mind at this point. RR has coached here for 36 games. Is Brandon really going to use game 37 to tip the scales? I doubt it - especially given that most of the prospective bowl matchups are unfavorable. So why do this? If he's planning on keeping RR, this really isn't fair to him or the program - by leaving his coach stewing in the wind another month, that just means more uncertainty. What would RR tell recruits? And if the plan is to retain RR but have him clean house defensively, it'd be better to let him contact prospective assistants sooner, rather than later.
Conversely, if he's leaning toward letting RR go, it's better to do it sooner. It gives you more time to make the new hire, gives the coach more time to assemble a staff, and gives players and recruits more time to decide if the new coach is right for them or not. Waiting until January just compresses the timetable.
The one rationale I can see in which this would make sense is if Harbaugh has informed Brandon that he wants to come here, but not until after he's coached Stanford in the bowl. If the only way we can bring JH here is to wait a month, then okay, I guess you have to do it.
If you're going to fire him do it now. Make Fred Jackson the interim. There would be a lot less negative recruiting. Or announce that RRod will be fired after the bowl game. IMO Brandon is doing the last thing he should be doing. Nothing.
Unless something drastically happens, he stays at this point. He has made improvements, but we are not at the elite status yet.
Every Michigan fan has been spoiled by the Bo/Moeller/Carr era. I would like to see RR succeed with returning starters on both sides of the ball!!!