But...smoke.... and ...fire....? Could the anonymous people on the internets be wrong?
Brandon: No Monday Announcement.
They've never been wrong before, right? right? Oh.
Just ask coaches Greg Schiano and Les Miles...
I just heard Mike Valenti comment about this. He read the Brandon Tweet on the air, and announced that it had been put out to quell "rumors in Ann Arbor." As though rumors just spring up in Ann Arbor. No mention of Lynn Henning's having made an ass of himself, and then making an even bigger ass of himself thanks to Jason Smilovitz's fine reporting for the Daily, insisting that he still thought it would happen, in his "opinion," not "based on any information."
Then, with no other insult to fall back on, Valenti asks, "Who uses a word like 'rubbish'? The Duke of Yorkshire?"
This is such a craptastic example of Mike Valenti's stunted shitheadedness. There is no "Duke of Yorkshire," Mike. It's the "Duke of York." But rest easy, knowing that your collection of mouth-breather listeners will never, ever know the difference.
Please stop listening to 97.1.
You are only bringing attention to the talent deprived.
- First, Lynn Henning capitalizes on David Brandon's offer to do a personal interview during OSU week.
- Next, Henning's Detroit News column relating to the interview gets him an interview on E. Lansing radio (where Henning went to school and where he worked before Detroit).
- During the radio interview, Henning inexplicably pops off, with a prediction that Rich Rodriguez would be fired. And not just at some time in the future -- but next Monday.
- Henning's recklessness causes a firestorm; people naturally think that an old reporter and columnist, having just been given interview access to a key source, must know something, right?
- So Michigan Daily reporter Jason Smilovitz interviews Henning; asking him how does he know what is going to happen on Monday?
- Henning responds, incredibly, that he really doesn't know, that it's just his opinion, and that it "wasn't based on any information." (What a statement from a newspaper reporter!)
- But the hungry anti-Rodriguez press is still simmering the story, with Kirk Herbstriet, who has basically never gotten anything right with respect to coaching rumors at Michigan, pops off with a confession that he has no idea what might happen to Rodriguez, but if he were to be removed, well then Jim Harbaugh would probably jump at the opportunity. Herbie has not interviewed Brandon, or Rodriguez, or Harbaugh, on the subject.
- David Brandon kills the simmering rumor decisively with a Tweet: The Monday rumor is "rubbish," Brandon writes.
- But that is not enough for our friends at the Detroit Free Press, in their never-ever-freaking-ending campaign to try to drive Rich Rodriguez out of Ann Arbor. Tonight they publish a Mark Snyder story, headlined "Two National Experts Think Rodriguez Might be Out." And all that it was intended to do was to rehash what Herbstriet and another football wirter did not know about. They knew less than Lynn Henning, who had just interviewed Brandon.
- So, instead of the headline being, "Brandon Ends Rumor Started Lynn Henning," the story becomes, once again, an anti-Rodriguez story. Not merely without any good basis in fact; but actively concealing the malfeaseance of another sportswriter.
So that's how it works at the Detroit Free Press.
In the past, I have suggested that Mark Snyder is just a pathetic pawn and a stooge of Michael Rosenberg. My opinion has changed. Mark Snyder is a malicious thug, actively trying to cause harm to the Michigan football program.
Why in Gods name are you reading the Freep. You are like the censor who views porn on the sly, then rails about it in public.
...and you're right; the Free Press is a kind of veracity-pornography.
btw, I wanted to add this to the preceding post but your reply prevented it. In this case, the Freep is not a complete bystander. I think that it is quite reasonable to presume, based on the clear timing, that our Athletic Director's Tweet was occasioned by the Free Press story hitting Freep.com. In minutes, Brandon was shooting down the Freep story, which was edited to reflect what Brandon added. This continues the series of pr punches thrown by Dave Brandon in the direction of the Free Press; leaking the NCAA-results story to the AP ahead of the Freep, giving the OSU-week interview to the News, etc. Good job, Dave.
Media-savvy AND a pimp hand? Wow.
Why does anybody trust anything that comes out of Detroit? Detroit is a failed city - it was once one of America's great cities, and spent nearly 50 years failing itself into oblivian (Bolivian-style, of course).
Detroit is home to the Lions, one of the most miserable franchises in professional sports history. Hundreds of thousands of idiots follow these idiots every weekend. They haven't been reliably good since Barry Sanders quit, 12 years ago.
The Pistons have had some high points, including a championship, and the Tigers at times have shown something to cheer about, but overall, it's a miserable place for sports, and its a miserable, failed city.
There is no reason to think that Detroit is going to attract anything but the most pathetic, miserable, and self-loathing idiots of sportswriters. I am so sick of giving any attention to these motherfuckers. If you're a decent, respectable sportswriter, and you're given the choice between Detroit and Spokane, Washington, you catch the bus out west. Fuck these motherfuckers.
Just fuck you. Leave.
And never come back. I know I won't miss you.
before this malicious group of liars loses their press passes?
But the hungry anti-Rodriguez press is still simmering the story, with Kirk Herbstriet, who has basically never gotten anything right with respect to coaching rumors at Michigan, pops off with a confession that he has no idea what might happen to Rodriguez, but if he were to be removed, well then Jim Harbaugh would probably jump at the opportunity. Herbie has not interviewed Brandon, or Rodriguez, or Harbaugh, on the subject.
Herbstriet is still mad about getting knocked out in THE GAME, back in the day. I don't care what that douche bag has to say.
1. How do you do that arrow thing? Awesome.
2. LOL his name is LYNN? that's a girl's name.
3. Contrary to #2, ad hominem attack is still a fallacy. Also, I've said the word rubbish before. Would they prefer we use the word "bull shit?" No, because that would cause a media shit-storm. I mean rubbish-storm. So the options of calling your reporting "bullshit" are pretty limited.
Could Lynn Henning be wrong?? If he is, you'll never hear him admit it.
Or maybe Tuesday would be better. Let him hold his breath all day on Monday.
"Oh sweet baby Jesus" when i saw this thread... though it could have been added to the one below on RR being around for the next month
Is there a better title I should use? "Boom goes the pimp hand," maybe?
I helped. You can neg me back if you want.
Here are your points back.
Same here. I'm almost wishing for the offseason so the board can get back to discussing bloody puss coming out of dogs' asses.
I don't want the dog thing blamed on me.
I'm a bottom.
Who posted about my dog's ass?
and in this case it is important, but not in that it makes me want to hurl my guac any less.
Damn, I just clocked myself in the bean with my bag of diseased cocks.
were to take a handful of diseased cocks and form them into a brick-shaped thing...
would it be called a cockblock?
If you can't take the word straight from the horse's mouth, does that mean you're the horse's @$$?
Christ almight, give it a rest people.
by rubbish pile, DB means that he is adding it to the list of rumors that are true. it's conditional you know. if we punt at all in the first half, dave brandon will be announcing on monday that harbaugh will be riding into ann arbor that night on a chariot made of dreams
comes out to call the rumor "rubbish." Your response? "Maybe it's not a rumor!"
You are the dumbest person alive. Please ban this fucking idiot.
How long are we going to give Ed Shuttlesworth to prove that he can be a quality contributor? At some point, his terrible posts must be someone's responsibility and he must stop passing the buck. Etcetera.
agreed.. he shouldn't have the ability to post if every post is a joke and how RR will probably be fired
His username is a slander to the great Ed Shuttlesworth.
"You bounce like a cork big Shuttlesworth", isn't that what Bo says on the CD?
About 20 people and 10 topics should have been banned/taken down this week. There has been next to no action. Blows my mind.
But at least we can all talk about Jim Harbaugh TEN FUCKING SEPARATE TIMES AS IF THERE IS ANY NEWS WHATSOEVER the week of the OSU game. Thanks to those who made it all possible!
including your bottom comment about a lack of troll hunting
Man, I wish I was able to get factual inside information from the Athletic Department like you! You must be a pretty big deal.
You're no longer worth negging.
But I will cherish the thought of the real Ed Shuttlesworth hitting you so hard that you lay twitching on the ground, unable to reach your keyboard.
Made me smile e
It is times like this I wish I knew how to embed a video.
Never mind, not worth my time.
And I like just about everyone.
Based on your asshat logic, if the right conditions occur then I am sure the entire top ten of Rivals will sign with Michigan this year. Those conditions may not occur. Therefore, this post may be "rubbish".
I'll give Brandon his due. He needed to quash this ASAP, and he did. No matter what his thoughts are toward RR, he owes it to him to not have this hanging over RR's head before this game.
I have it on good sorcery that the announcement been moved to Tuesday. Brandon is slick!!!
Well played, Brandon. Well played.
It doesn't matter—Brandon could reanimate Bo's rotting corpse to explain to people that the review won't happen until after the bowl game, and there will be a good percentage who will still say "Eh, Brandon's just being a crafty CEO who's keeping things close to his vest, he doesn't really mean that, I heard that RR has already started cleaning out his desk, and a real estate agent I know at the gym says she's already listing some of the assistants homes for sale."
I hope your real estate agent is right and those assistants are from defense, but that is a totally different topic.
Hopefully, it quiets the pot-stirrers a little bit.
Unfortunately, I seriously doubt it. It would be nice, but the chances are slim to none.
Can we please just stop and agree that if a change is made, it won't be until after the bowl game?
No. I can't agree to this. Nothing in there said that. All he said is not Monday. I don't care if he stays or goes, but I think it would be terribly detrimental to drag this out past the next couple of weeks and into January. I simply believe that is a mistake. I would love nothing more than some day next week for Brandon to sit day and say "Well I made up my mind it's RR's job. Deal with it." And let's move on. But draggin out the uncertainty into January, I firmly believe is a mistake.
Which is why he won't he won't do that. Said it before, and I'll say it again: How the team does at a third empty neutral field in late December against some unranked opponent, isn't going to decide this.
If we get some of these players back from injury and the defense plays well, I think it definitely could have an impact.
You create your own uncertainty, reading whatever you want into every statement. WTF is wrong with you? You have no control over the situation anyway, just sit back and enjoy the Holiday.
by "I create my own uncertainty." Are you suggesting that the thought of RR not being back next year is a figment of my imagination?
And all I said was that the coaching situation whether he stays or goes needs to be addressed before January.
Accountability. Brandon has it. Brandon has said repeatedly what he is going to do and when, open your fucking ears and get a clue. Brandon is not coming out with anything Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. Is that clear enough for you!!!
probably calm down and relax a bit. I didn't realize I was allowed to disagree with a decision made by Brandon or engage in a discussion about it. Sorry to offend your sensibilities.
You did offend my sensibilities, because what you suggest is indesensible. Your inablility to take Brandon at his word is mind boggling, especially since Brandon has delivered the same message over and over again. Why in the fuck would you think that Brandon is going to do an about face, and make an announcement on Tuesday? Why?
Don't know why you're bein negged here.
Maybe Tuesday? Wednesday? This is how these things roll.
It all depends on Harbaugh. He is the game changer. Frankly no one really knows if he even is available for the job except for him and maybe Brandon.
If he is available, if that matters to Michigan, and if they have talked, anything is possible. All "ifs" that no one has first hand knowledge of.
Keep in mind, there isn't been a high profile coaching switch in recent college football history where someone involved in the process wasn't guilty of some level of trickery in the lead up to the actual announcement.
I don't understand how you say it depends on Harbaugh. It's not his decision. It depends on DB and what he thinks is the right thing for the program, not whether or not Harbaugh is available and up to the challenge.
Harbaugh is no panacea either. He's going to run into some significant problems too.
Exactly. I love how everyone that wants RR to be fired and Harbaugh to come in think that he is going to make UM a top program again overnight. He will be stuck with the same defense and we will be no farther along than what we are now, if not a little behind.
A better defensive staff is the only thing that's going to improve this disaster relatively quickly. Personally, Harbaugh isn't even the best choice. Outside of his connection to the program, I'd prefer Dan Mullen as a spread coach that wouldn't try to stuff Denard into the pro-style passing mold. Also, Miss St has a mean defense this season (just sayin').
First off, RR is staying, and there will most likely be a new defensive coaching staff. Secondly, if Harbaugh were to come, Denard wouldn't be stuffed into pro-style passing mode, he'd be moved to RB/WR/DB, and Devin would move to starting QB IME. So thank god RR will be here.
You're getting way ahead of yourself, buddy.
Yeah I agree. GERG and / or the defensive scheme needs to go.
I guess I never thought of Mullen. Not a bad choice right there. But yeah, putting Denard into a pro-style defense doesn't allow him to do what he does as much and that's run. Plus, he sure as hell does not seem like a pro-style QB. But then again, I'm sure he would adjust and do pretty decent. You never know.
Yeah, true, you never do know. Thank god we won't need to find out.
exactly.. Bringing in Harbaugh a less accomplished coach than RR was coming into michigan and somehow he is gonna turn us into Big Ten contenders? Why? Cause he's a so called michigan man? Bullshit.. the whole michigan man thing about how our coach has to have michigan ties to win somehow in the big ten? Give me a break..
Harbaugh's big bad Defense still got completely shit on by a spread offense..
I don't know why everyone thinks he is gonna magically turn our 18 year old freshman on D into a solid big ten defense..
The only thing he would inherit is that they are a year older and finally have a year of expierience under their belt.
If anything changes i would have to say Gerg is probably gone, and possibly the whole D staff. Everyone says RR won't part with his friends, but if it means his job he will send his friends packing.
How is Harbaugh a game changer? You realize it took him 3 full seasons to get where he is right now, right?
Harbaugh improved Stanford by three games in his first year on the job, and pulled off a massive upset of USC (the largest upset in history, according to the betting spread). That's pretty impressive, given that many coaches struggle in their first season and have their program backslide in year one.
He took a team that was 1-11 the year before to 4-8. Sure, an improvement, but they gave up 55 points to Oregon. In fact, in 3 of 4 seasons, Stanford under Harbaugh has given up more than 50 points to Oregon (2010: 52; 2009: 51; 2007: 55) and has never beaten Oregon.
It's not surprising that a team that went 1-11 the prior season would experience a meltdown game or two. I don't think that's a particularly valid metric for evaluating the guy.
But I liked you better when your avatar was your face and not a hot chick on the beach. Sorry, but it had to be said. It was just eating me up inside. I'm sure it's not the avatar's fault, but that's how my mind makes sense of it all.
You'd rather see NateVolk's giant, up close mugshot as an avatar over a hot chick on the beach?
Magnus, along with myself, take issue with this.
If a head coaching change is made, it will be immediately to try and salvage the recruiting class. Michigan would have to get slaughtered while Rodriguez was snorting coke off GERG's ass to get fired after the bowl game.
Staff changes would come after the bowl game, IMO.
Or off of GERG's beaver. Oh, dear, I've said too much.
There's a filthy joke in there somewhere...
No matter how you feel about the coaching situation, it is great to see Brandon openly addressing the rumor. I am surprised that now people think it is Tuesday or Wednesday or whatever. I would take Brandon for his word, he is going to evaluate after the post season.
I am looking at his twitter page right now...and there is no such post.
and only lets you see posts 8 hours old and later (somewhere around that time frame) unless you have a Twitter account
You're blind. Or something. I'm looking at it right now, and I also had it retweeted to me about ten times.
I could be blind, or experiencing exhaustion induced system failure...either way, thanks.
and have a Happy Thanksgiving.
After Michigan beats O-State on Saturday, this will all go away.
You're saying that RR shouldn't be fired if we win on Saturday? Ludicrous!
I'm glad it isn't my decision to make. In addition to this, I'm glad David Brandon is in charge of the Athletic Department. These two simple facts will make Turkey taste better tomorrow.
...Brandon only said that there wouldn't be an announcement on Monday. If Michigan was going to let RR go it *has* to be before the bowl game as that's the only way to do it that wouldn't muck up recruiting.
Firing RR would muck up everything!
RR is not getting fired on Monday. Whatever it is, it's something else.
There is NO announcement on Monday. It's not something else.
Rodriguez isn't resigning, and he isn't getting fired Monday even if we do "get whacked." The athletic director -- the guy who makes the decision -- just said there's no announcement Monday.
Stop being a moron.
It's a good thing you are making decisions on behalf of michigans football program. Where would we be without you..
OSU team you think he resigns? Eat some turkey and lay off the haterade, it's mixing with the delusion juice, and what's coming out of your mouth (fingers?) is pretty rank.
I'm pretty sure buyout plays no role, maybe a very insignificant role at best. What matters is consistent improvement, which both RR and Harbaugh have displayed. And, since RR is currently our coach, why would we exchange him for Harbaugh? Only two reasons I can think of is the violations, and RR not being a "Michigan Man" (whatever that really means). Do those really cause for a coaching change? Doubtful.
Ohhhh, the irony...
But at least these people are never banned despite being obvious trolls. To take two examples, I fundamentally disagree with jmblue and Bando 90% of the time (near 100% with Bando). But they are not trolls. They have rational opinions with reasons and thought backing them up. I just don't like those opinions, and that's fine.
Why Spoof and Ed and the 100 other names (probably just 10 people) that post the same nonsense over and over and over have survived all week despite constant negging and blatant trolling is beyond me.
But does anyone else think that Spoof and Ed know eachother? Or, crazier still that they are the SAME PERSON? Either way, they work well as a team, I guess, if the goal is to get awesomely low point totals and create as many fail-posts as possible.
What a great tweet!
Still Wanted: DC that will play a four man front in the Big Ten and not play with stuffed animals!
to tell us about the "announcement", or the thought of DB being manipulated by the media. Regardless, I enjoy ending my workday with a good laugh.
This isn't directed at the OP, that would not make me laugh. I am speaking of the lemmings and their various and sundry minions.
Are we really parsing what Brandon tweeted, which seems pretty obvious - to me, anyway - that there is not an imminent change at the helm of the program, into a "Wait! It could mean that he'll do it Tuesday!" Or some equally B.S., paranoid schizophrenia?
..... what the fuck did I just say ??????
Go Blue !
...is that Lynn Henning is a moron?
"Add it to the rumor rubbish pile! Happy Thanksgiving!"
I wonder if Brandon would consider adopting a middle-aged alum and football fan? If so, I'd like to volunteer myself for that experiment.
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Aside: Who's going to volunteer to metaphorically shove that tweet up Lynn Henning's backside?
I would like to think that they're actively pursuing defensive staff right now, and if a good one was ready to sign on, we would nab him before the bowl so we could benefit from improved coaching until then, and give the guy more time to recruit, rather than drop bombs and not give the school time to replace players recruited by outgoing coaches.
if we would get the RR effect we had in the Florida game in a defensive form... that'd be epic
Oh never mind.....I guess I never stopped.
Let me admit that I am not a very objective or critical fan. Since I was 6 I have demonstrated the ability with UM football to ignore any and all problems and be somewhat mystified when, whatever their record, their not voted #1 or invited to the BCS championship game. Maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit.
But here's kind of what I think/hope/expect re RichRod (keeping in mind I'm unable to be too critical of the team).
I think that RichRod is an offensive genius.
I hope that the failures of the defense this year will have scared him to death, as he realizes that he could actually be fired for a bad defense.
I expect that next year, and for every year thereafter, he will not overlook the defense, or overlook the necessity of having the right defensive staff/personnel/recruiting, and our defense will never be this bad again.
Twitter was the perfect venue for this. Having a press conference a la the 20th century would have just blown up the story even more.
that with all the rumors circulating that it's not Dave Brandon who will make the decision, but Rodriguez who just says the heck with it all and takes a hike.
Good point ChalmersE, he's had to put up with so much sh!t since he's been here, he might just pack it in and who can blame him. I really admire him for all he's had to take.
He knew the expectations coming in, and is a very competitive person. I don't think quitting is in his vocabulary.
As his mother said when he took the job and visited UM. "You could literally put 3 WVU's inside UM. This is where Rich belongs. He's had problems everywhere he's been, but only temporary and they've made him stronger. His whole focus will be on returning Michigan back to where it belongs, and that's on top of the football world. And he'll be successful in doing that." I believe moms, and his definitely.
" It's not as simple as win-loss records. It's just not. People want to try to make it that simple, but there are so many things you have to look at when you measure the strength of a program. You've got to look at your pipeline of recruits, your academic performance of recruits as well as your current student-athletes. You have to look at the staff; how the staff's performing and working together.
I'm going in those locker rooms before the game, during the game and after the game and practices, seeing how the team responds in difficult situations. Going over the game films and finding out exactly where the breakdowns occur and why they occur. I do that.
There's a lot to play for, and hey, this team's playing for respect. They have been since the beginning of the season. If you look at the three losses we've had, Michigan State we just played poorly.
Those other two losses, we went down by three touchdowns in each of those games and came back in the fourth quarter and were literally a possession away from being able to win those games back after being three touchdowns down. That doesn't sound like a team that gives up or lacks confidence. That's a team that can score quickly and always believes they're competing. I like that about this team. "
DB wanted to announce the MNF game will be terrible, my poor niners suck. Troy Smith is the QB, for crying out loud. Lets see Alex Smith sucks, David Carr sucks! Nate Davis has learning problems. I should just root for the lions :s least they have Shaun Hill ex-niner. sucky!