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Brandon: Game times and Night Games

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:29 PM
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Brandon: Game times and Night Games

http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/brandon/spec-rel/120211aaa.html

 

A blog by Brandon detailing who picks the game times, etc. 

 

Here is the most important quote: (My underlning)

 

Though our media partners have all the power in determining our kickoff times, the schools are allowed some autonomy when it comes to night games and which days of the week the game is played. The conference office and/or the network would have to ask us for permission if they felt a game would be better suited for its needs to be played at night or on another day.

If asked, the answer will be that Michigan regular-season home football games will always be played on Saturday and a night game will only be scheduled if it is a "special game" with significant fan interest. We are not going to schedule a home night game just to play a night game.

In addition, we have no plans to move Michigan State or Ohio State to a night game in Michigan Stadium.

 
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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:34 PM
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*spray paint, incinerate, or

*spray paint, incinerate, or poop in

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:05 PM
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STAEE!

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 PM
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Like Feral Cats

Burning a couch is a sparty marking his domain.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:04 PM
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Queme!!

Queme los sofas!!!

 

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:10 PM
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Indeed

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December 2nd, 2011 at 11:31 PM
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Perles had his men burn their

Perles had his men burn their couches so they were well motivated.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 PM
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Confused

Brandon says that only special games with significant fan interest will be scheduled at night. If Ohio and MSU does not meet those qualifications, what game will? I guess we can expect our next night game in two years when the Domers come to town?

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:44 PM
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Well OSU can't be

The B1G doesn't allow night games in November

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:47 PM
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OSU at night?

Even if they did allow it, it just makes sense not to play the OSU game at night.  Nobody wants a game where kickoff is 3 hours after sunset.  Tailgating in the cold & dark would not improve the atmosphere.  OSU at 3:30 is a different story, and would be just fine if the networks want it.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:45 PM
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your reasoning

is exactly why the B1G doesn't allow it

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:05 PM
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The Game should be played at High Noon.

Period.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:08 PM
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That's right

I forgot about that.

I still thought it was great this year and think one or two every year would not only be nice for those that attend but for recruiting and such as well. I assume that is at least partly why the SEC has all of their games at night.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:59 PM
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This is a myth.

This is a myth.  

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/12592/november-night-games-not-...

The conference doesn't prohibit them, but it doesn't encourage them, either.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:26 PM
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He didn't say they don't meet the qualifications

He only said that there is no plan to move an MSU or OSU game to a night game.  He left himself enough room in that statement that he could change the plan next week, moving next season's MSU game to an 8:00 kick-off.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:37 PM
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he means psu nebraska marquee

he means psu nebraska marquee nonconference lsu, usc, texas, etc. in future

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:25 PM
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Brandon says that only

Brandon says that only special games with significant fan interest will be scheduled at night. If Ohio and MSU does not meet those qualifications, what game will?

The issue is not that those games lack fan interest, but that fans of those schools are drunken louts who can't handle a night kickoff.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:10 PM
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Hey Mr. Brandon ...

If YOU want to have Michigan at home in a NATIONALLY televised game .... then you have no choice but to schedule the MSU game at 8p.

WAKE UP !!!!   Recruits come to expect that Michgan WILL be on national tv.

Geez ..... idiot!

Go Blue!

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December 2nd, 2011 at 10:50 PM
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Yes, because the only time

Yes, because the only time our poor little program ever gets televised is when we play mighty MSU.

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December 3rd, 2011 at 7:35 AM
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Been there; done that.  Tired

Been there; done that.  Tired of the Irish.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 PM
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So....

No night game next year? No complaints. I like keeping it for "special" games. 

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:01 PM
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Or "Throwback" Jersey

Let alone "one-time only "throwback-style" jerseys," personally selected by the Athletic Department's CMO (Chief Marketing Overlord Officer) for his primary customers.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:35 PM
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Nothing says special...

like "The Horror: Part 2"

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:38 PM
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Now that I think about it...

What qualifies as "special?" Law school would certainly teach that "special" is a completely arbitrary term. So is it actually DB who decides what is "special?" Special could mean many different things to many different people. 

The game against Air Force could be "special" for some of the military community. The Horror 2 could be "special" for those of us that were there (AAARRGGHHH) who seek redemption. Not sure how I feel about this standard. 

Or maybe it's just a slow day and I'm really bored and feeling nitpicky. Ya, that's it

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December 2nd, 2011 at 6:26 PM
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you needed law school to

you needed law school to realize that "special" means nothing?

/asshat

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:02 PM
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What was special

What was special about this years Notre Dame game other than the fact that it was a night game at Michigan Stadium? Playing the game at night MAKES it a "special game." 

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:39 PM
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Soooo?

Is it just going to be Notre Dame every year we play them at home? I dont know how I feel about it.  I mean obviously we went how many years without a night game but still itd be nice to have them more often instead of just having those new lights sitting up there collecting dust.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:47 PM
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Yeah I like the idea of it

Yeah I like the idea of it only being for special games in theory, but why did we spend all that money on those lights then...

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:18 PM
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The lights were a 1 time expense

That have already been planned on and used for 2 events (Big Chill, ND). I didn't make every home game this year, but the lights were on at OSU as well despite the noon kick (weather). If we had any other cloudy games (or 3:30 games later in the year) the lights would be on then as well.

I don't know what the giant light trucks cost when we used to bring them in (PSU 2005 comes to mind, 3:30 game late in the year, finished under the lights), but I think the lights have probably come close to paying for themselves, or will soon.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:37 PM
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IIRC, the lights were also

IIRC, the lights were also turned on at some point in the second half for Purdue and Nebraska, both noon kicks.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:16 PM
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Perhaps I had been misled,

Perhaps I had been misled, but I think the networks paid for portable lights.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:16 PM
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Perhaps I had been misled,

Perhaps I had been misled, but I think the networks paid for portable lights.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:22 PM
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Perhaps I had been misled,

Perhaps I had been misled, but I think the networks paid for portable lights.

 

Edit: I must have been REALLY misled. Sorry guys, going to blame the rotator cuff surgery this morning on this one

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December 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 PM
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They used to do that, but

They used to do that, but those lights were pretty crappy.  The new ones are much better.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:48 PM
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Rivals

Apparently DB considers Illinois and Minnesota as the other marquee games.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:44 PM
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Its Michigan

Every game is special fergodsakes

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:45 PM
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Because Brandon has said he

Because Brandon has said he does not plan to schedule any more home and homes, we can only assume our nonconference schedule will be full of cupcakes going forward.

If that's the case, the ONLY possible night game could only possibly be ND, if OSU and MSU are out of the question.  Unless, of course, he decides he wants a B1G game at night, which could get chilly.

These policies aren't lining up for any exciting night game opponents in the future.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:55 PM
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Nebraska

I could see a night game against Nebraska in the future.  They should be a pseudo rival going forward.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:54 PM
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Unfortunately, we play them

Unfortunately, we play them at home the same years as ND. 

We really have to get out of the ND contract. It totally screws up our home scheduling.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:55 PM
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There's still Iowa, Penn

There's still Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin, Nebraska as options....

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:26 PM
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Yeah

I'm assuming ND will probably be a night game most years.  When ND is away, once PSU and/or Wisky hops back on the schedule that could serve as a night game if it's not to late in the year.

Let's face it - next year's home schedule is poop.  If Iowa or Illinois were projected to be pretty good, that might make sense but I kinda of like the idea that we're not going to do a night game just to do a night game. 

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December 2nd, 2011 at 6:02 PM
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Iowa could be good.  Would

Iowa could be good.  Would make a decent night game, if not in Nov.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 9:50 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised at

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Iowa be a night game next year.

Our games against them the past 3 years have all been close nail-biters to a certain degree, although unfortunately we've lost all 3.

So we schedule them at night next year, and get our revenge under the lights.  Could be fun.  (Just as long as we wear our regular home jerseys.  No special ones please.)

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:34 PM
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Just like......

SEC, Boise, Oklahoma, Texas.... Picking up a pattern here?

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December 2nd, 2011 at 3:55 PM
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This is incredibly disappointing as night games could be really fun and I'd hate for Notre Dame to be the only qualifying game, what's wrong with having a night game to have a night game?



That said it would be nice if OSU and MSU fans had the ability to control themselves.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:18 PM
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It Would Be Nice, But...

.....imagine how much the Athletic Department, Public Safety and the AAPD would need to shell out to have the necessary staff control tens of thousands of compulsive arsonists and incontinent people, or worse, both at the same time? YIkes!

 

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:31 PM
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LSU practically has half

LSU practically has half their home games at night games, even if they're not the best opponents.  Don't understand how it's different for us.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:05 PM
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Infrastructure?

Just a guess, but Tiger Stadium is flanked on one side by parking lots and open fields, and on the other by campus. There's little residential near the stadium and lots of open space for tailgating/parking. Our parking situation is 1/3 residential, 1/3 poorly lit golf course, 1/3 university surface parking. I'm sure that getting all the cars out of there in the dark requires substantial effort on the part of the AAPD, and the university and the city are already in a snit about the overtime required during gamedays. Our stadium's just not as well set up for night games as others.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:08 PM
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That's Probably It...

The parking situation around Michigan Stadium compared to other venues is, to say the least, haphazard, traffic control has always been a point of contention between the school and the city, and in any event, there might be sofas and coolers sitting around in west and south side neighborhoods that may tempt certain fanbases.

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December 3rd, 2011 at 9:43 AM
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When you say 'point of contention . . .

Is that the 'point where AA bends over to receive the giant rolled up wad of cash that is being inserted into it's coffers?

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December 3rd, 2011 at 11:20 AM
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Pretty Much

The fight is usually over who signs the check and how much the check amounts to. 

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:34 PM
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It's Hot!

Early season games in the SEC have the potential to be unbearable hot. A night game in the south is not the same as a night game in Michigan in November.

An early season night game is fun every once in a while but why not keep it special? Michigan is not scheduling a home-and-home until it is financially feasible which is to say - never, so you are stuck with Notre Dame every couple years or maybe Nebraska. I don't see the problem with that.

I find it interesting that so many people are complaining that Dave Brandon has taken the conservative...dare I say traditional tack. What if every OOC game was at night but on a Thursday? Boise, VaTech, ect. does it...

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December 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 PM
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Clever

You have displayed amazing intellect. You don't like my opinion so I'm an "idiot"? Clever.

Since we should do more of what is "awesome" let's just schedule Ohio and Notre Dame every other week. That would be awesome! Playing Indiana at night would be awesome! Or maybe it would just be playing Indiana at night...

/s off it wasn't clear enough...

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December 3rd, 2011 at 2:03 AM
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heat has

a lot to do with playing night games anywhere in the South.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:07 PM
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Good thing they spent all that money to have 1 night game every other year.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:17 PM
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If only we saved our ugly unis for once every two years.



Night games are awesome. 1 each year plz.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:21 PM
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maybe arizona really made rr that promise

and we'll get them at night without offering a home and home. that would be awesome (as long as we win).

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:29 PM
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So it can't be Michigan State

So it can't be Michigan State or Ohio State, and Notre Dame has been done. Let's see: rest of the Big Ten schedule not so enticing. Perhaps...could it be......IS HE GOING TO SCHEDULE A REAL HOME AND HOME AGAINST A REAL HONEST TO GOD BCS TEAM?

Pick a Pac 12 team from California: any one. UCLA come on down. USC, let's do something on a year you don't travel to Notre Dame. Hey Berkeley, meet us on the Diag and we'll protest whatever war we're in that year, have a football game, and afterwards we can all go out for Fleetwood. Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaanford.

Remember a night game in Ann Arbor is an afternoon game in California.

Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaanford....

P.S. Mr. Dave Brandon I swear if you make App State at night I'll....

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December 2nd, 2011 at 4:58 PM
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Stanford

Oh, man. Stanford is such a good idea. Big UM alumni base in the Bay Area, good recruiting exposure. 

Too bad it'll never happen.

 

[sigh]

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:23 PM
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Cal or UCLA could work, but USC and Stanford wouldn't do it. Pac-12 teams play nine conference games, and USC and Stanford both have Notre Dame on the schedule. Adding Michigan would make for a tough OOC schedule and probably fewer home games than those schools would like.

More generally, I still have bad memories of Michigan's recent trips west (Oregon, Washington, UCLA, Pasadena, etc.). I'd want SEC before PAC-12.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 PM
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Well USC won't but Stanford

Well USC won't but Stanford might be down for a two-year hiatus from the Domers to play their original Rose Bowl foes.

I think it would be great for both. Michigan has lots of fans in the Bay area, and more people out East these days think of Cal and don't consider Stanford as much.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:28 PM
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Also love the idea of Stanford. Not only would our Night game be an afternoon start for them, when we travel there it would be a prime chance for ESPN night game (3pm west coast)

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December 2nd, 2011 at 6:55 PM
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Hey

You sure you got that West Coast time right? ESPN night games usually start at 7 or 8 PM ET.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:03 PM
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Flyover?

Won't be able to see it?

/s

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:06 PM
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Question Mark, Question Mark, Question Mark

I understand not having the ohio game at night, but state should be a night game!! Being able to ravage the (sp)farties in the dark would be sooooo special. C'mon Dave!!

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:40 PM
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I hate inviting my little

I hate inviting my little brother to my night parties.  He always gets rambunctious and tries to burn my furniture. 

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December 2nd, 2011 at 5:56 PM
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so there's no night game next

so there's no night game next fall?

:(

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December 2nd, 2011 at 6:03 PM
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So basically, night games at

So basically, night games at the Big House will only feature Notre Dame, possibly Nebraska or if we decide to schedule a big name non-conference opponent in a home (which I don't see happening under Brandon anytime soon because we'd have to schedule a home-and-home with big name opponent and he doesn't want to give up the $$$)

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December 2nd, 2011 at 6:07 PM
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I'm sorry, but a night game

I'm sorry, but a night game against OSU or MSU would be epic.  They do it all the time in the SEC among bitter rivals.  Nobody dies.  

Cripes, maybe the other teams are right.  We really are arrogant.  CFB has had night games against rivals for 50+ years, but it can't be done in Ann Arbor because . . . um . . . er . . . because why exactly?

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December 2nd, 2011 at 6:09 PM
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But..But...

Think of the children! Think of the breakables at Selo/Shevel!

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December 2nd, 2011 at 6:45 PM
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October night games against

October night games against Iowa or Nebraska (and their generally well-behaved fans) would be fine, otherwise I'm sure the Brown Jug would look lovely all lit up.

If we don't make a BCS game this year, it will be at least in part due to weak OOC scheduling - perhaps that will be enough to make DB re-think his scheduling strategy.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:07 PM
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Glad DB decided to spend the

Glad DB decided to spend the equivilent of the national defecit for lights that we only use once every two years.

Maybe I'll move to Florida and buy the best snow tires on the market.

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:18 PM
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Hey...it snowed

Hey...it snowed here.....once....in like 1988!

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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:22 PM
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Every 3:30 Game

The lights are used for every 3:30 game and even 12:00 games later in the year. They were on for Ohio and WMU and probably more games.

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December 3rd, 2011 at 7:43 AM
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Fine job

saying was has been said a thousand times already in this thread.

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December 3rd, 2011 at 2:54 AM
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No offense DB but I'll

No offense DB but I'll believe it when I see it.

 

Next on ABC Michigan vs Eastern Northern Sideways A&M at 8:00PM where Michigan will debut their new alternate special home jerseys that feature real Wolverine fur on the collars.  

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December 3rd, 2011 at 11:31 AM
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Wolverine fur! Now that's innovative!

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