It is known.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
It is known.
It is known.
How did we ever doubt this man?
Your Napoleon Avatar makes me want to play Stratego
Secretary of the U.S. Navy and founder of the Michigan football Decatur Clan.
The fanatical faction of Michigan fandom, named for Capt. Stephen Decatur of the U.S. Navy who famously said, "Our Country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be in the right; but right or wrong, our country!" Basically "I love the guy in charge, no matter who it is today. Go Blue!".
This is Napoleon:
But bottom line...
Yes, we must play Stratego at once.
Damn, never knew about Decataur Jack, now I want to play Battleship.
ill wait and see how many of these kids pan out
"6 hours 17 min ago more of a reason to laugh at
more of a reason to laugh at you when he chooses Auburn"
Internet never forgets.
Why would i feel stupid? I wasn't going to get my hopes up, and it was a post just to mess with the guy since he made a snark remark to the guy above him.
How did our last 5 star RB pan out?
You remind me of BRCE
good thing i don't live on this forum then, and could care less who he is
Your combination of joined date and point total would suggest otherwise.
according to Rivals was Kevin Grady. He had an uphill battle before he even got to campus. He was playing behind a guy from New York that went on to set all-time Michigan rushing records for carries and yards in a career, and is fourth all-time in touchdowns.
I think that Grady did a good job in his role at Michigan, other than getting in trouble with the law a few times. Grady was a risk before he stepped on campus but dont tell anybody that Lloyd Carr recruited players with character issues though, they will deny it to their death.
That said, comparing Grady to Green is not even cose to the same.
Even if he didn't get Green.
Well, the national media is taking notice. @simandel today noted with some astonishment that despite the SEC's run of dominance, UM and OSU have the top two classes in the country.
So OSU is right there. The best rivalry of all time will be so recognized once again.
Link. Per SI we had the #2 class, which was pretty close to what I remember as the consensus (for whatever that's worth).
BlueCE actually posted this here in a 2011 thread.
Replied to the wrong post, but that's okay. The article is very interesting.
Notable: Miami was ranked way down in the teens, and they don't mention familliar players, but by 2000 the Canes were absolutely loaded and setting themselves up for dominance.
Of course, a lot of the teams at the top of the list underperformed. UCLA and Michigan both had flashes of quality, but the classes were underwhelming. Retrospectively, though, our WR haul was even better than the #2 and #3 recruits in the country.
How in god's name was Cato June the #3 rated DB?!??!?!?
I was wondering when (or if) someone would make note of Hoke's work over the past year... It was a long road, but he and his staff, did a great job filling in the 2013 class, which will go down as one of the greatest.
Not to be a debbie downer, but we still dont know what the future of Poggi brings... does his trip to Alabama change anything?
Mgosadface. I noticed Poggi is not prominent in the OP chart--on purpose?
Still a great class regardless.
The only thing that's missing are speed gamebreakers on the edge--a top receiver or something. I'm concerned about it, but today's bump makes me feel a lot better about the offense going forward.
No anti Poggi bias here. I thing Poggi is higher rated by Rivals. I was just making another of the already numerous lists I've made this weekend, and Poggi ended up where he ended up. SImple as that.
Fair enough. I hadn't meant that you were trying to dog on Poggi, just that perhaps you were mentally preparing yourself for disappointment, but your explanation is sensible.
The "fergodsake" at the end.
Brady Hoke recruits like a Boss.
Jesus looking at that guard haul, plus Green and Smith, we will have a formidable interior running game in a few years. Wow
That's what jumped out at me, too. 3 of the top 7 guards, that's insane.
why Chuck Norris WISHES he was Brady Hoke. In fact, there are several reasons...
If Brady Hoke were to punch you in the face, you would have to fight off the urge to thank him.
His business card simply says “I’ll call you.”
If he were to mail a letter without postage, it would still get there.
But look at our WR's! Hoke can't bring in elite talent!!!!!
Hoke has done a great job recruiting and bringing in a staff that can get it done as well.
But between the guys we have and Darboh and Chesson. I'd bet my life savings we'll have an All-Time type Michigan WR in the group. Someone making people clamour for the #1 jersey again.
Based on what? On how when we had a horrible recieving game to the point where we had to add our back up quaterback to the corps and they (freshman wideouts) still didn't make an impact?
Look, I think we can win with who we have but lets not act like we have anything particularily special in the pantry.
It is what it is bro.
They were true freshmen. Frosh wideouts don't see the field if they can't block, which is why a lot of them don't play.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I won't pretend to know a whole lot about all the assistants, but I've read really good things about Coach Montgomery. And of course, there's Greg Mattison. Urb himself called GM the best recruiter he'd ever seen. Some here like to bag on Urb, but when he says something like that, I'm paying attention.
Oh, and yes, Coach Hoke is pure badass.
One of the other things that really is remarkable about this class and probably puts it in some rarified air is that the average star ranking per Scout is 3.8 (I think it was around 3.6 last year). The average position ranking, has moved up seven spots from 27 to 20, which I imagine is pretty difficult to do given the competition for some of the top recruits at various positions. It's an excellent trend and indeed evidence of awesome recruiting by Hoke and the staff.
I agree Brady Hoke is a great recruiter, but I think his coaching and how quickly he got everyone to buy in when he arrived is what sets him apart.
I can't wait until we get back to when everyone in the entire stadium knows we're going to run the ball, and then we run it for at least 5 yards anyway.
I don't know, guys. Why couldn't he find a LS that was nationally ranked? That really puts a damper on the class for me.
/s....before I have people tell me that Scout doesn't rank the LS.
I would be, and am, critcal of the longsnapper scholarship considering that we signed 4 linemen last year and 6 this year; I would imagine one of them could specialize in long snapping; its not like longsnapping is an inate skill that some people are born with and others are not; I'd like to think that one or two of the new guys could focus on specializing in long snapping...
I will now step off my soapbox to the roar of the crowd!
That we're turning away because of a lack of scholarships? Since we're not, does it matter?
Long snapping has become, more or less, its own specialty and to the point that the NFL drafts guys who are simply long snappers and places them on far smaller rosters than Hoke and Michigan are managing.
The role is critical and you can see this with Lions long snapper Don Mulbach being most recently named to the Pro Bowl.
The idea that you should just take a player "coach em up" and have them in critical spots for snapping is just not smart. Rather, have the kid work with the kickers and special teams all of the time and enjoy success.
They call it evolution of the game.
I don't believe the hype. But, there are decent arguements in your favor so we can all just see how it works out...
Thread title wins the internet.
Well, it's just tremendous.
Wellllllll, it's about those seniors. Those 115 guys. They're like our sons. And we as coaches, we gotta do a better job. But we're getting there. Because it's Michigan, for God sakes.
God I love Brady Hoke.
Regarding the OP's question, could someone with Knowledge shed light on how good the '98 class was? I remember at the time being astonished at how many great players were in it, and coming off of '97 it looked like Michigan was set up for a fantastic run of excellence. Never quite materialized, but the class was good. How good was it?
I'm really excited about Green going Blue. Not only because he's a great prospect but I think this solidifies Hoke's recruiting prowess. Back to back top 10 classes and pulling the #1 back in the country away from the SEC definitely puts us in a position to start being mentioned again as a national recruiting powerhouse, now we just need the wins!
We'll have to wait and see of course how this recruiting class pans out over the next 4-5 years but there are few really exciting prospects in this class (Shane, Dymonte, Derrick, the whole damn o-line). As for the '98 class it was only comprised of 19 recruits total. But of the 19 a whopping 12 of them were drafted or signed as a free agent in the NFL, no particular order:
I don't know what this Knowledge thing you speak of is, but whatever it is, I'm certain I don't have it.
but in 2012 Hoke was filling his first class true class and could use playing time and renewal of the program as a selling point. For 2013 we got out in front early and alot of commits came onin the midst/immediately after an 11-2 Sugar Bowl season. We got off to a very early start in filling these classes as well.
Hoke has more than proven himself as a top notch recruiter but 2014 will really test his resolve. With Urban coming off a 12-0 season at OSU and Mich coming only winning 8 games, we'll really see if this can sustain itself. If Brady can pull in the 5-15 range in 2014 I'll be more impressed than the top 5 classes of 2012 and 2013.
Anyway.... great day to be a wolverine
the man is absolutely massive in this shot and can hardly be recognized if you only saw him at today's size
If you're worried about how Hoke & Co. will recruit for 2014, just wait until mid-February or so. #rememberlastfebruary
He's got the mf'ing eye of the tiger.
Damn i get giddy thinking about our offensive line and backfield when I look at this post. Then, I remember the haul we had in 2012 and my joy cannot be contained.
Out there still question the hiring of Hoke?
Thanks Mr. Brandon, job well done.
I loved the Rich Rod hire and was on the fence about Hoke. However, Hoke's opening press conference was a piece of art, and I've been hooked ever since.
Hoke won a lot of us over that day. He is quite good.
I love how the OSU trash still think that we've just gotten all the recruits Meyer didn't want. I'd find it hard to believe they wouldn't want Dymonte, Bosch, Kugler, Dawson, Poggi, Green, McCray, and a whole host of others. The talent level of this class speaks for itself.
I don't know if I would say Michigan has gotten the scraps that Meyer didn't want but when you run two different style of offenses Pro vs. Spread and defense, you're going to aquire talent on different ends to fit the system you want. Some players fit that philisophy and others don't. I'm not sure if Michigan is recruiting for speed either but that also seems to be a huge factor in what Meyer is going for as well. Some student athletes get recruited by one team but if they were recruited by both OSU & UM and one gets the best of each other, remain calm and recruit on! Ratings and stars don't mean nearly as much as coaching does (see Wisconsin) since that is a huge factor of success. I respect what Hoke has done and who he has recruited but in no way should one be envious of who committs where and the players one team gets.
Happy happy joy joy
are great recruiters
Very good point the assistants play a major role in recruiting and Coach Hecklinski is the recruiting coordinator, so alot falls on him. If anything is true of our last two classes, it's that the assistants have done an outstanding job, and Coach Hoke has done a great job surrounding himself with a capable and dedicated staff.
How many scholarships does Michigan still have to offer recruits before signing day arrives?
Michigan might be able to bring in one more guy, but no more than that.
I wonder if this will be the TE from TX or will there be a big signing day surprise, like a WR?
Overall Hoke and his coaches have done a fantastic job over these past two years. Wow, if he keeps recruiting like this we will soon be one of the top teams in the land!
I don't think Smythe is going to come to Michigan.
Much agreed. It's incredible and anyone who disagrees imo is blind.