I wonder how much that cost?
brady hoke has a new job title
Thanks. Clearly I didn't read it
Only a 10 million dollar donation. I volunteer to change my name for a 1 million dollar donation.
That is sickening.
from having the Edward J. Frey Dean and Stephen M. Ross Professor of Business lead the business school, or the Joan and Sanford Weill Dean of Public Policy lead the public policy school?
A classier way would be the "Anonymous Head Football Coach"
Or maybe "Anonymous and Anonymous Head Football Coach" so the wife doesn't feel left out.
It doesn't blow my hair back, but if these two want to pony up ten million to have their names before Hoke's on MGoBlue and Wikipedia I don't see the big deal, especially since it's not out of the ordinary in higher education.
You don't think it sounds completely unnecessary and a ridiculous place to put a sponsership ?
I don't see the difference between this, the Donald R Shepherd Director of Athletics, the Stephen M Ross School of Business, or the endowed titles I posted above for the Deans at Ford and Ross.
I suppose it could be worse, at least these two are apparently alumni and not a corporation, but what type of egomaniac gathers $10 million to put their name before a college head coach? I would love to see how big Nick Saban would handle a situation like this.
Hell yeah. This is as ridiculous as it gets. What the hell kind of title is that? On the other hand, as long as it is an endowed position - why don't we call him the endowed Michigan Football coach?
I bet if I offered to pay you $100 you'd change your username to "The jtmc33 sponsored writings of formerlyanonymous"
I would then parlay that deal into ""The jtmc33 sponsored writings of formerlyanonymous, brought to you my Miller Lite and Sprint" and at least triple my investment.
Business, man, Businessman.
Make it $200 and it's sold!!
Why? Professors carry those titles all the time, and it's not like Michigan is the first school to bring those titles to their athletic coaches.
Harris's have a lot of money and want to leave lots of leagacies behind. I would rather have a name before Hoke's title than to have higher ticket prices.
If you think this is going to have one scintilla's worth of restraint on ticket prices, I've got a fantastic investment advisor that I'd like to introduce you to. His name is Madoff.
Was it Michigan or another school that did this for the AD position?
Many schools (including Michigan) have endowed their AD position. We did it back when Goss was the AD, I believe.
"Donald R. Shepherd Director of Athletics."
Endowiong a staff position is common all over the University, particularly in academics. Most of the academic units at most major campuses have not only some kind of endowed chair for their Dean but also for high level professors too.
That $10 million will sit in an account and the 4.5% interest the University will allow out annually will go towards paying a large part of Hoke's salary. The concept both here an on academic campus is to take the staff member's salary off the balance sheet and free up that money for other things (or in many cases on academic side with all of its funding cuts, provide that money to retain a professor we would otherwise lose to another University that is offering more).
I guess my only knock is that the athletic department simply doesn't need the money. That would do much more good elsewhere. Football is so deeply in the black off of PSD's all this does is take them another few hundred thousand into overage.
MORE MONEY FOR SKYWRITING!!!!
David Brandon has no goddamned shame
This man will sponsor your effing children
he just sponsored the crap he took. The Dave Brandon My Turd smells like a Rose Turd.
EDIT: Oh wow, not joking.
What the hell is going on?
Nicki with an I?? Wtf
be ready to embrace the honor.
I can't imagine the ego involved in saying "we'll only give the program money if you name the head coaching job after us."
At least when schools name their shiny new buildings after donors, those are actual new, physical things that the donor made possible.
to endow something at Michigan that isn't named after me -- like an academic chair named after one of my professors at Michigan that really shaped my career.
Exactly, something meaningful. I hate that this will sound all holier-than-thou, but if I donated a shit-ton of money to my school for a purpose of some kind I'd choose a meaningful name for it and stipulate as part of the donation that it could never be changed. Not "Me Hall" or the "Look At Me Chair Of Teaching Stuff."
How does a shit ton of money compare to a crap ton?
My coworkers and I recently had a very similar debate and our consensus was:
butt load < crap load < ass load < shit load.
Maybe this sounds crazy to some, but donating large (or very very large) sums of money is a very honorable and respected thing to do. Sure, some people do it anonymously. And if they don't want any gratitude for their donation, that's their prerogative. But if someone wants recognition for doing something great, why is that a bad thing?
Stuff in this world costs money. In order to get money, you have to give something in return. I don't see what's wrong with this.
But what happens when the "big, shiny thing" you made possible isn't tangible like a building? You gave the university a bunch of money, which will make a lot of stuff possible that may not have been otherwise. The willingness to do that is one of the big things that enables Michigan to be different than everyone else.
"Welcome to the University of Michigan... where we create our own headlines before The Onion does it for us"
It rolls off the tongue.
I'm not sure I get the negative reaction.
In medicine, it's an honor to be given an endowed title.
Plus, this means that his salary is being paid by the proceed of some rich family's donation to the athletic department rather than student tuition or tax dollars.
That works for me.
for a named chair to be prestigious.
But individual faculty members aren't as individuals representatives of the University the way that high-profile administrators are (the president, the provost) or coaches. I think that's the reason for the negative reaction.
But it's becoming increasingly common and unavoidable. Better that our head coach is named after a donor than a corporation.
So says Mitt Romney and the Supreme Court.
I'm sure others have done it also. Regardless, Don Canham was hailed for being innovative at finding new sources of revenue. Personally I think this is going overboard but if someone wasn't to give me $10 million, I'll rename my kids to whatever you want.
You do know his position has not been paid by student tuition or tax dollars, right. The athletic department is a separate financial entity from the University as a whole. His salary has been paid by PSDs, ticket sales, donations and merchandising.
We could start a Kickstarter. I suggest we name the position the 'Mike "Big Brother" Hart' head football coach at Michigan State University.
because they are the little brother?
It's J. Ira and Nicki Harris Head Football Coach. How dare you leave out the "J".
You shouldn't post their pictures! Now you're just encouraging them!
I appreciate the contribution, but is that really the most pleasant expression that Ira was willing to give?
pleasant don't get you rich
How do you know which one is Ira?
Darling Nikki's the one in the hotel lobby. With the magazine. Uhm, that's "making her own fun".
(Couldn't find a copy of the original on YouTube, but for any of you that missed 1984, here's the reference.)
Those two remind me of the fucking Bluths, man. That picture is an instant classic.
I'd personally like to see J. Ira added to the Lloyd Brady Photoshop Pantheon.
He's been known to put his "testicles" all over you.
Personally, I commend Ira for saving up to his $10 million dollar donation by shopping at The Men's Warehouse.
Looks like the old lady has had at least $5M in work done. He on the other hand should find a quiet place to relieve his constipation.
drawer at the last second when the photographer suggested it needed something. That curl on his lip is from the smell of 7,000 perfume samples collected over the years from Cosmo and other magazines by his better half.
This is exactly how I picture Section 1. Open mouth and everything.
palm a softball. My 9 year old has bigger paws than that.
That has to be some sort of weird angle photography thing. Because that is hilarious! Those are tiny!!
She's not in it for the loot.
Hail fellows well met, the cream of society, your social betters, swells wearing purple velvet slippers or going full-out in drag:
Kappa Beta Phi membership list here: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/02/revealed-members-of-kappa-b...
I thought his new title is nations most expensive cheerleader
I liked it. I dont care what anybody says.
Endowed positions are a popular way to get rich people who like to own things to pony up more money than otherwise. Orchestras use this to get donors to cover the cost of individual musicians. That way once a person retires from taking credit for other people's work they can still vicariously take credit for the endowed person's work.
Doing things Stanford does. Sounds like an awful idea to me.
Will the donation help fund a headset?
The LSA Aught One official sleeve endowment has his arms covered...quite literally.
After getting money from a west coast donor they are called '' Beats by Dre Audio Receivers.''
But this phenomenon has been around for a while in the form of endowed professorships.
EDIT: Shit, late to the party. Spen too much time looking for a list of endowed professorships at UM before hitting the save button.
I think this is a good idea. Who cares if the title is different? This is a good way for Michigan to bring in a donation and help be certain they can afford top-level coaches for years to come. I have no problem with this at all.
Think about it this way: would you rather the goofy title, or higher ticket prices?
Title doesn't really matter, but I would rather have neither, because the program isn't even close to needing the cash.
The football program is doing great; so is men's basketball. But the rest of the athletic department and the university as a whole BADLY need the cash.
Organizations like Michigan should be looking for creative ways to get big gifts. I used to raise money for a non-profit, and a goofy title is well worth $10 million.
I don't doubt that other sports could use a little stimulus package, but I don't think the university as a whole needs cash, given our almost 9 billion dollar endowment.
At "non-profit" institution if you wait to get the cash for when you need it, it's too late.
I'm not a big fan of the tuition increases, PSL's, higher ticket prices, etc. I also think the college system is broken with 90+% of students receiving financial aid just so they can attend a four year institution.
That said, when it comes to endowments, grants, etc. schools need to bring in the money as soon as possible so you can start putting it to work for you. Schools who can not or do not do this fall behind quickly.
so ticket prices won't be going up anymore? . . . THATS FUCKING FANTASTIC!!!
OMG, this solves everthing!
Why the hell did no one think of donating money to the AD years ago?
So really, all we need is for someone ELSE to donate some money and ticket prices will start going back down?
This is dumb.
A lot of other universities already do this. Most of the Ivy League schools have endowed positions on coaching staffs. And not just for football. Dartmouth's Head Squash Coach is an endowed position, and Cornell's Lacrosse Coach is as well, to name a couple. Amongst non-Ivie's, one that comes to mind is Stanford. Its Offensive Coordinator is actually titled the 'Andrew Luck Directorship of Offense" after an anonymous donor endowed the position.
Michigan is slacking, we need someone to endow Nuss as a Legate or any number of titles inspired by crazed dictators throughout history or something, at least. Anything to get a promotion from coordinator, right?
As others have mentioned, this is a growing trend really and a lot of schools actually have - if the position is not already endowed - open offers out there for endowing the position at an average price tag around $5 million or so, as I recall. Texas Tech wanted $2 million for football, but donors could endow any of the head coaching positions aside from that for $750,000. Duke and Rutgers have similar open offers, I believe. All of the Ivy League schools but Brown have endowed coaching positions for football as well, and it is reasonably common among smaller schools too.
I don't see the issue. Most universities have endowed chairs for professors and researchers. Yeah, it's a bit weird to some, but this isn't that uncommon in academic circles and it seems like a trend for college teams.
next year do they ride off into the sunset with Brady?
They probably have as much influence as anyone who gives the university millions of dollars: more than me and you, less than Brandon and the President.
Influence is unlikely. What they likely get is access. When old J. Ira wants to bring his golfing buddies by the athletic department to meet the coach and see his name on his door, Brandon will have a small legion of employees, interns, student greeters and maybe the band ready to receive them.
AD position has been the Donald H. Shepherd Director of Athletics.
Does anyone remember Stanford's OC position being named the Andrew Luck Director of Offense?
How much to rename the school? Could generate a lot of "stability" when it's the Frank and Staci Kapmann-Smith University of Michigan, brought to you by AT&T..
Yale and Purdue, too. Those are named after founders, though, or in honor of patriarchs.
So I get why the school does it and I don't really have a problem with this but I do have a question. What do the donors get out of this? Because almost no one will know this title a year from now. They better get free box seats for life or something. Is this just a side perk to giving a lot of money?
I know nothing about this topic, but charitable giving is deductible, correct?
Is this real life? This program has really turned into something else.
Now we can all say Brady Hoke is well endowed.
(I'll see myself out)
It sure seems like it. Like others have mentioned, it is quite common for such titles to be had for any number of positions in academia, non-profits, thinks tanks, etc.. A void existed and by fulfilling such a void, the potential of the organization is being maximized.
you would do a lot worse things for ten million dollars.
I love Michigan Football, but if I had $10M to donate, it would go nowhere near the program.
It would actually all go to inner-city schools/disadvantaged students of some kind, but regardless, there's many many better places to donate $10M to.
I'm sure he donates elsewhere.
He needs to take a dump.
Dave Brandon gonna brand.
I've always tried to imagine just how much money you'd have to have to decide you didnt need 10 million of it. And how do you arrive at that number anyways? Was their a negottation that went on? "For 2 Million you can name the hockey coach, for 5 Milion you get basketball and for 10 million you get the crown jewel - football?" And do the offer a package deal - buy all three for only 15 million - it's like getting hockey for free!"
The mind reels.
I am willing to change my name for $10,000, as long as its nothing embarrassing. I'll change my username for a $100 dollar donation to a worthy cause.
The Human Fund thanks you, Mr. Dick Fuck Jibbly Butts.
Still love Ass Shit McButt-Fart.
That is $10 million less that the athletic department needs to fleece from the unwashed average alum/ticket holder like me! My wallet thanks you.
They will still take that too
While I find this a little strange, I'm not against it. But when Dave Brandon offers an explanation, I want to hear him say "imma not a business man, imma business, mannnnn." Then cackle gleefully.
Let him handle his business, damn.
"I am not running the Michigan football program."
If I was the one donating millions, when they asked my name, I would say "Anonymous."
Hasn't Stanford had there head football coach endowed since the 90s? Don't see the big deal with this.
and I have a horrible feeling that the worst is yet to come. . .I can't even imagine what it is, but it's coming. . .
That's crazy! I have a great feeling the best is yet to come. I can't imagine what it is, but it's coming.
What's becoming absurd is all the hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing that goes on around here.
I'm failing to see why this matters. Like at all.
If all this shit meant cheaper tickets, I'd be all for it. Sadly, the opposite will probably happen.
This is my issue. I'd love to see that the "extra" 10 million (or at least the interest off it that the AD no longer needs) go back to the UM general fund or for scholarships.
Signs of the apocalypse, this....
"We are (Taco Bell Grande) Michigan."
They can call him the Wizard of freaking Oz as long as he starts beating Sparty and OSU.
Aren't these honors usually for people that have earned them (research, teaching, advancing the profession, etc)? Does a football coach seem to fall into that category? Serious question and I am not being critical. We say that being head coach at this university is prestigious and an honor, but is it the same level as people in academia and medicine? Just odd, but I do not care either way. Looking for more info and perspective.
Yes. It is. If you think about the amount of time/work/dedication to your work that it takes to become head coach at Michigan vs what it would take to become head surgeon at UM medical center, or something like that, they are about the same
shit that will make me cancel my football tickets.
who ever said "this is Michigan fergodsakes"? If this happens, that statement will be translated to the language of Brandon to mean "we are a bunch of whores".
I plan to endow a drinking fountain in Schembechler Hall if I can scrape up enough cash.
This thread is proof that some people will find a reason to bitch about anything.
I can't wait for an Ohio State alum to give more for the Woody Hayes head football coach.
Could DB turn that down?
Now are the TV announcers, the ESPN talking heads, the Doug Karsh's of the world obligated to say that before they mention Brady Hoke? Please no. No.
How many times have you heard Dave Brandon referred to as the "Donald R Shepherd Director of Athletics, Dave Brandon?
Many times, in fact.
Why does they're always have to be stipulations from the rich to get their money? Make the monkeys dance for their dollars.
To me, I just find really cheesy and don't really see what it's purpose is other than to whore out for more cash. It's stories like this that give me a sick feeling about where college athletics are and where they are headed. Next thing will be some donors name on the backs of the jerseys instead of the players.
I'm pumped for Fred Jackson to be the "Coke Zero Running Backs Coach Brought To You By Buffalo Wild Wings And Stephen Ross" a few years down the road.
If Hoke takes care of business against Stae, Ohio and the Domers next year can we all agree he was well endowed?
of this great university. It's an absolute joke to name a football coach anything but a football coach. Keep your stupid money. You've got enough of mine to cover expenses without me wanting my name plastered all over everything. Who sits around and thinks this stuff up. I can't wait for the first broadcaster to use this title when talking about Hoke and thus making Michigan the laughing stock of college football. It's bad enough to do this if we were 11-2 but after what we've endured the last few years this is pitiful. One step closer to having advertising in the stadium. Maybe the Michigan GoBlue Club banner will have names on it after this. I can't believe I'm reading this. Someone at the University has to say no to the money bags regardless of their requests or get Brandon under control if this was his idea. Either way this is a joke.
List of BCS conference teams with endowed coaching positions:
- Boston College
Actively seeking someone to endow the position:
- Michigan State
- Texas Tech
As stated above, pretty much every Ivy League football job is endowed (and the lone holdout is Brown after removing Joe Paterno from the title) and so are many of their coaches in other sports.
The over/under for this getting mentioned on a broadcast after 2014 is in the range of one time per year.
Why let facts get in the way if a good narrative? Brandon could cure cancer, AIDS, solve world hunger, and stop the use of child soldiers and people on this blog would still complain. This being endowed means the money freed up can be used for other sports. It's a good thing.
I am fairly sure that those not happy with him for this decision would be pretty thrilled if he cured cancer.
I don't give a shit if Stanford does it. This is ridiculous.
I believe that the official title of the OC at Stanford is The Andrew Luck Director of Offense or something similar to that. Michigan is not the first school to do this.
Eagerly soliciting millions of dollars from creepy uber-wealthy people who look like they're out of a "Law & Order" episode so that they can attach their name like a parasitic remora to the same position that Yost, Crisler, and Schembechler occupied is apparently totally fine and not at all humiliating and is a smart exploitation of a business opportunity.
Yet having a mascot is a horrible, tradition-sodomizing atrocity that will drain the very life and meaning and manly-juices out of Michigan football because tradition.
to my alma mater without demanding that their name be plastered all over the fucking building and letterhead is the first time I'll truly be impressed by their generosity.
we should all get together, do a kickstarter (but use other people's passwords), and buy some position coaches..
how bout the Snoopy and Woodstock offensive lineman... or the Ultimate Warrior memorial linebackers coach...
I realize that other institutions do it (Stanford), but uh its still lame as hell.
Also, conspiracy hats and secret society coats on: