Pretty straight forward really; Brady Hoke says Notre Dame is chickening out of the rivalry.
Pretty straight forward really; Brady Hoke says Notre Dame is chickening out of the rivalry.
Still can't believe we'll loose that great rivalry ...
I mean, Purdue and Staee ? Really ?
Hoke is right on that one.
Yeah, I know. I was hoping we'd tighten it up.
I can't upvote you right now but I will say that was hilarious enough to make me laugh out loud...
I don't think I ever saw a negative number that low.
need to learn da English, yah? Oui, Oui!
I'm just like travelling around the country man... I like to take peyote and channel the spirit of Simon Bolivar...
and apparently no politics is a real rule around here... even if you are immensely insightful (not inciteful like magnus)...
ps. the worst part about being sent to boliva is you have to type in a stupid code every time you post... the word verification has been more than enough punishment...
You could be the Anthony Bourdain of Bolivia.
Basically, he said the Newtown shootings were either faked or perpetrated by the government...because it was "too clean" of an event on the media timeline.
Thanks for the info
I do not believe newtown or aurora were faked; people died and that shit is fucked up... I simply don't believe in the quick simple solutions provided by mainstream media and I question how convienent the events were to certain government agendas.
It may be a subtle difference but it is important to me because I still grieve for the innocent people murdered; just because I am a 9/11 truther doesn't mean that I don't feel bad for the victims...
ps. lets hope this doesn't extend my ban... I just wanted to point out a significant difference in my perspective: I may be crazy, but it is my crazy...
I hope it's not that you had the opinion (which I express no opinion about), but that you broke the 'no politics' rules on the board.
Your not crazy, Jdon. I actually share the same beliefs as you, and I have had those beliefs long before 9/11. You should pm me sometime, I would love to chat with you on these things. But at least we can all agree on our love for this great institution, and the maize and blue comes before country for me anyway.lol. God, Family, Michigan, country, in that order.
No one has ever been exiled to the darkest caves of Bolivia's Cave District before. Hope you're a spelunking fan...
"Loose" is a way to describe the change in your pocket
Or the women you've been poking.
But I always lose that change... So it could be both
Your statement flies in the face of the facts. Obviously, a man who mocks Staee can indeed misspell "lose".
That episode was just on. Awesome
What a great rivalry lost - thanks to ND arrogance.
And recent domination by the Maize and Blue.
More accurately, recent mind-numbing series of loses by Notre Dame. Dominance isn't quite the right word given we were probably a total of 40 seconds from being 0 for our last 4 against them
And he is right. Even Notre Dame fans acknowledge that.
to follow your logic train, are you saying that the Domer's AD is making decisions and/or choices that the fan base is not supportive of?
Color me shocked.
Hoke is right. The ONLY reason for ND to stop that game is to cut down on their expected losses. Compared to teams like Purdue and MSU, we provide a more appealing game for their fans, better TV ratings, a better recruiting atmosphere, better strength if schedule, and on and on. The problem? They probably see us as a 50-50 win for the coming future, while they probably see MSU and Purdue as 80-20 or 75-25. They've apparently decided that those extra 5-6 losses over the next 20 years are too high of a cost to justify.
They are. Actually, more like chickenshit wimps.
Enjoy your new rivals in Duke and Wake Forest, losers.
Returning to glory since 1989.
p.s. Rudy was offsides
Can we still use that? I love the phrase but they did just play in the NC game (despite not really belonging there). I mean our MBB team played in the Finals and I took that as returning to our former glory despite not actually winning the title game. Perhaps football and basketball are just too different?
But we haven't been claiming our return to the top ever since then, and Michigan basketball fans don't think
Michigan basketball is God's gift to American athletics like ND football fans feel.
Exactly. You start out 2-0, the world could care less. But in the last 20 years, if you start out 2-0 and you're Notre Dame, you're not only back to glory but you're front runner for the national title. It doesn't help that the media buys into this too soon hype either.
I think you're confusing the national championship with a scrimmage, the national championship this year was Alabama vs Georgia
1) Our basketball team actually belonged in the NC game. We had to win our way in, not be voted in by a compliant adoring media.
2) We have never said anything as stupid as "A strong Notre Dame is good for college football". College football does not have to have a strong Notre Dame (or Alabama or USC or Texas or Florida or Michigan). During the last 25 years, college football has reached unprecedented levels of popularity, and everyone of those progams was weak for some portion of it.
So the difference is A) our basketball team actually did return to glory, and B) when it happened we did not proclaim that the whole sport returned to glory just because we did.
1) Notre Dame did play in the BCS title game, but they looked like they didn't even belong on the same field as Alabama. I might concede the point if it was a close game, but it looked like boys against men out there. They still have yet to win a BCS bowl game, which puts them behind the likes of Boise State and Louisville (hell, they'd probably get spanked by Boise State and Louisville). So no glory yet.
2) Our basketball program is solid, but most reasonable Michigan fans would acknowledge that we're not in the same group as Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, et al. Delusional Notre Dame fans, on the other hand, are under the impression that their program should always be counted amongt the uber elite despite the fact that they've achieved little more than winning two bowl games since the advent of the Internet.
I will take pleasure in every loss, humiliation, and indignity to befall ND until their fanbase sheds its delusion that ND actually deserves some kind of special status among college football programs. They are a glorified mid-major, as acknowledged by one ND fan last season in a rare moment of candor. Until the rest of them agree, to hell with Notre Dame.
Their inside track to the BCS has been extremely annoying to watch. Yay ND went 10-2! They only lost to the 2 ranked teams they actually played in a season, thats Fiesta Bowl worthy! Hopefully the playoffs value quality wins and SOS more than just record and ND gets shut out over and over.
Well it's kind of true. The ACC is daunting enough as it is. Don't want to have to play UM as well.
It's hard to argue otherwise when they're still playing two Big Ten teams per year. Playing Purdue and MSU but not Michigan is pretty lame.
I love Brady Hoke.
To Hell with Notre Dame.
Once the series is over, will give two sh*ts about the place.
Brady Hoke Calls Notre Dame A Chicken
...then proceeds to eat them
State fans probably popped bottles when Swarbrick called it off.
They now are the #2 rival by default. Poop. If Minny kept Glen Mason, who knows? That series was pretty exciting from 2003-2006. They could've been #2 by now.
...should be the very first college football game of EVERY college football season.
It should be tradition. You know CFB is here because Michigan and Notre Dame are playing.
I've said this for years...unfortunately we've gone the opposite direction.
But how cool would it be to start EVERY year with only Michigan and ND? Like the Hall of Fame preseason game in the NFL.
No one listens to me!
Next rant: Michigan vs. MSU should be the first week of the B1G season. ND - first game, MSU - first B1G game (for each team, not for the conference), Ohio - last B1G regular season game (for each team, not for the conference).
Dave Brandon...please make this happen.
Michigan had ND as the first game in 1985-1990, 1992 & 1998-1999.
3-5-1 record. Too much bad juju given the heartbreaking fashion some of those games were.
When the series resumed in the 70s, the plan was for the Michigan v. ND game to be the first game of the season for both teams. However, ND started scheduling a game before the UM game to work out the first-game kinks. Michigan then started doing the same, so the game eventually became the second or third game for each team.
Off the top of my head, 1989 when we were #2 and they were #1, they scheduled a kickoff classic game with Virginia before us while we opened against them.
In 1992, they scheduled Northwestern before us while we opened our season in South Bend. And in 1999, at the very last minute, they threw in a game against Kansas while we had to open against them.
That's when Lloyd finally spoke up and said WTF? The schools had a gentlemans agreement that we would open against each other and Notre Dame keeps ignoring that. Domer fans denied there was ever such an agreement but we never actually heard from their coaching staff or athletic director on the topic. And as we have learned over the last couple decades, Domer fans opinions don't mean crap.
It's this kind of crap that makes me glad we take a break in the series every now and then (1983-84, 1995-96, 2000-01). If Notre Dame wants to pound their chests over beating crappy ACC teams, while technically not being a full fledged member of that conference, go right ahead. Seriously, who else but Notre Dame would sort of/sort of not be a member of a conference?
It gave him something to point to all off-season, and get the guys ready in camp. It got their attention. (For both teams). And if you won it, great, and if you lost it was the first game of the year it didn't hurt you in the Big Ten at all. Then they started trying to get all the first game kinks out before they played us, and it defeated the purpose. And thus "to hell with Notre Dame."
...was it the first game of the entire season?
That's my twist. Let us play on the Saturday before the rest of college football.
Or maybe even make it the Monday before everyone plays that following Saturday.
I don't know or care, I just want it to be the very first game of the entire college football year. I think it fits the rivalry, I think no matter how good (or bad) the teams are, people will watch, I think it would be accepted by most fans since they're the 2 winningest programs.
Almost like how Army/Navy always play that late game in what, December? It's after everyone else, or most everyone else at least. I believe it's when everyone is playing conference championship games.
Start every year with Michigan/ND, end the year with Army/Navy.
Again, DB, stop worrying about the uniforms and make it happen!
...except for that whole "Notre Dame is too chicken to play us" thing, which is, like, the topic of this post.
is just calling em like he see's em!
How many Notre Dame fans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None, they just all stand around waiting for it to return to glory....