Brady Hoke Calls Notre Dame A Chicken

Still can't believe we'll loose that great rivalry ...

I mean, Purdue and Staee ? Really ?

Hoke is right on that one.

What a great rivalry lost - thanks to ND arrogance.

And he is right.  Even Notre Dame fans acknowledge that.

They are. Actually, more like chickenshit wimps. 

Enjoy your new rivals in Duke and Wake Forest, losers. 

Returning to glory since 1989.

p.s. Rudy was offsides

Well it's kind of true. The ACC is daunting enough as it is. Don't want to have to play UM as well.

It's hard to argue otherwise when they're still playing two Big Ten teams per year.  Playing Purdue and MSU but not Michigan is pretty lame. 

I love Brady Hoke.

To Hell with Notre Dame.

Once the series is over, will give two sh*ts about the place. 

Brady Hoke Calls Notre Dame A Chicken

...then proceeds to eat them

State fans probably popped bottles when Swarbrick called it off. 

They now are the #2 rival by default. Poop. If Minny kept Glen Mason, who knows? That series was pretty exciting from 2003-2006. They could've been #2 by now.

...should be the very first college football game of EVERY college football season.

It should be tradition. You know CFB is here because Michigan and Notre Dame are playing.

I've said this for years...unfortunately we've gone the opposite direction.

But how cool would it be to start EVERY year with only Michigan and ND? Like the Hall of Fame preseason game in the NFL.

No one listens to me!

Next rant: Michigan vs. MSU should be the first week of the B1G season. ND - first game, MSU - first B1G game (for each team, not for the conference), Ohio - last B1G regular season game (for each team, not for the conference).

Dave Brandon...please make this happen.

is just calling em like he see's em!

How many Notre Dame fans does it take to screw in a light bulb?

None, they just all stand around waiting for it to return to glory....

I'll call him a chicken fucker!

Chicken Fucker! Buh-GAAAWK!

Didn't we cancel '17 & '18 before they canceled '15 & '16? And we are the ones who just added a new high profile opponent to the years where we were supposed to come off hiatus, essentially closing that door. Not saying ND doesn't hold some of the blame here, but it doesn't seem to me that they are "chickening out."

This was at a luncheon I was at in downtown GR.  He did indeed call them chickens, and seemed confused as to why that illicited so much laughter.

He also said, "I don't know why they won't play us . . . well actually I do."

My cool story bro is that as he left the podium, I snuck out of the room and grabbed him in a back hallway and he kindly paused for a picture even though he was running late to a coaches clinic.  I don't know how to post a pitcture or I would do it.

They can suck a bag of dicks

Strong words. Hoke must be full of confidence after the Charity Bowl win.

He's right. Irish know their only shot at relevance is to go undefeated against the easiest possible schedule. MSU and Purdue don't pose as much of a challenge to that as we do, so they don't want to play us. Chicken.

Dropping the Michigan game only makes sense if you are afraid of losing.  It is a huge game with "game of the week" coverage, more so now that it has become a night game.  "Chicken" is the correct word.

Honestly, [email protected]#$ ND, aside from last year they have been a joke and they will likely go back to being a joke. I hope that we can get a better team on our schedule. We don't need ND to make our schedule look good, nor do we need it for our attention. At the very least we can stop having games that are announced by the shitty NBC announcers. 

I'm just kind of sad that Nebraska is going away to the West.  They would have been an excellent replacement and in conference for even extra hatred.  As long as I'm getting games like VT though, I'm fine.  To hell with Notre Dame (or half assed ACC ties work as well).

And bring someone to the Big House.  I don't know how easy that is (probably not so easy), but a quick look at FBSchedules.com shows that Texas Tech and Louisville both have open dates on 9/6/14.

They'll be talking about this quote in September, calling it bulletin board material and suggesting it gives ND extra motivation.  If we really wanna make it sting, we've got to beat them.  Really rub it in.  If we can do it this year and next in their house, I'm actually happier that we don't get the return trip.  Let that be their lasting memory of this rivalrly, losing the final matchup in front of a home crowd.

losses they can risk incurring going forward if they don't want to just become an afterthought in the national conversation. MSU gives them slightly better odds. 

:)

Hoke never struck me as a very outspoken guy, at least not to the media. Really seems like a man of Fort Schembechler. But he's calling it like he sees it, and I happen to agree with him on this 100%. The fact that Notre Dame scrapped their rivalry with us but chose to keep Purdon't and little brother around is like a direct slap in the face to Michigan. The only reasoning I could see behind their decision is that those other two series have been around longer, and they have, but neither of those schools move the national appeal needle even remotely close to the way that playing Michigan does. Nobody gives a shit when Notre Dame plays Purdue. Why? Because Purdue fucking sucks. MSU as a whole might not suck, at least not now, but they need Notre Dame. They need the national exposure. Notre Dame doesn't need them.



Today's football landscape is about what will make good ratings and a shitload of money. Neither Purdue or MSU offer that like Michigan can. I know Notre Dame doesn't need the exposure, but everyone always needs more money. Notre Dame included. I'd understand cutting Michigan from the schedule only if they cut MSU and Purdue as well. It'd suck, but I could live with that, because it'd show Notre Dame is truly trying to get out of its Midwest roots and make a fully national schedule.



I'm with Hoke. Notre Dame bitched out to play two lesser Big Ten programs, and a bunch of ACC scrubs, minus VaTech, Clemson and FSU. I hope the game at home this year is drama-free: send them out with an ass-kicking they'll remember for a long, long time.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck ....

It is definitely a shame that we'll no longer play this game after next season, and this is the final home game against ND for the forseeable future. I can't wait to go, and if any of you want to join and have access to a private Friday night Big House Tour, let me know!

http://www.sportspowerweekends.com/michigan-vs-notre-dame-weekend-experi...

ND has always been great at cherry-picking a schedule that gives them a lot of teams that look good for the computers, but that an elite team should beat.  They combine these with two or three real games like Michigan or USC, and maybe one other "tough" game per year.  

Now, with the ACC bringing in a few tougher games, and Stanford becoming an elite program again, they are getting rid of Michigan so they have on less possible loss on the schedule every year.  

This is a masterful job of cherry-picking.  They don't play enough ACC teams to experience the grind of a full conference schedule, nor have they ever played enough Big Ten teams to experience it.  Now that Brian Kelly has them good again, getting rid of MIchigan could keep them from one loss too many some years, and give them a better chance of getting into a playoff.  

Personally, I won't miss this rivalry.  I have thought for years that the Big Ten should have refused to play ND until they joined the conference.  If every major conference told them they didn't want to play indies, ND would have to join one of them to get a decent schedule.  

This is one reason that I would still like to see what I will call a "super-division" made of super-conferneces, relegating anyone not in a conference to second-tier status.  Let ND play in a conference, any conference, and have to sustain "the grind" like everyone else does.  

ND fans can't argue with him either after their chicken-shit AD ddn't have the guts to tell David Brandon to his face that they were ending the game series.  I guess they were just getting sick of losing to us constantly.  For ND's sake, Purple Face should keep his mouth shut on this one and not make the whole thing worse for them.  I can't wait until we ass-stomp them this September. 

Isn't Notre Dame Michigan's little brother as well? Michigan taught them the game of football, fergodsakes.

Their rivalry with Sparty has more history.  They're played almost twice as many games against them so it makes sense to keep that game.  And Purdue is an in-state rival, so they can't drop that game.  

But I don't appreciate the dick move to "serve" Brandon right before the game last year.

I do love that this move forced us to show that we're just as much the national program as ND and can play anyone, anywhere and don't need them for our non-conference schedule.

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I think this speaks more about where Michigan is and will be in the future. Dont you guys think there is a reason why ND kept Purdue and MSU? WIth NDs new ACC loaded schedule, I believe they did the right thing. Keep the 2 big ten teams you can beat and drop the one that you cant. I still think Hoke is right for calling them out, because they are a bunch of chicken shit pussies, but Im going to take it as a compliment for UM. ND knows that with the way UM has been recruiting and the great coaches they have, that it is time to pull out of the series now. I know ND has been doing well in those aspects as well, but I think 3-4 years from now, UM will have done better than ND.

Chicken tonight. I'll probably wear a green shirt while I do it.

They have their midwest footprint without really trying.  They know they can't afford a match-up with another national powerhouse if they want to keep getting to the NCG.

Honestly, it is chicken.  But it's also a compliment--they don't want to have another game they have a good chance of losing every year on their schedule.

Honestly, if our schedule was as tough as theirs, I'd probably want to cut one of the great teams too, and cutting Michigan won't hurt their recruiting or national appeal as much as cutting USC or Stanford.

I mean Michigan announced last summer they were canceling the 2018 and 2019 games and than Notre Dame announced later they were canceling the 2017, 2016, and 2015 games.

if they only schedule a bunch of weak opponents for the season?

We'll just play them in January.

Notre Dame is continuing to play Purdue and MSU but not Michigan. Hmm wonder why that is...

"They're still gonna play Michigan State, they're gonna play Purdue, but they don't want to play Michigan," Hoke continued. "I don't know how they made that decision ... I really do ... But anyway, that's a great national rivalry game. It's a great game." - Brady Hoke, in the article

I suppose Notre Dame will always have these two stalwarts of the Big Ten, and to think that they'll be able to add Wake Forest or perhaps Boston College more often now. Maybe they can alternate Purdue and Indiana so they can have a real scare once in a while.  

If there is any interest in these numbers, now that the alliance is in place, ND is 84-32 against the ACC lifetime - the only two teams that they have losing records against are Florida State (2-5) and they lost the only game they played against NC State. In the Big Ten, they have losing records against three teams - Michigan (16-23), Nebraska (7-8, although all those were played when Nebraska was in the Big 12) and Ohio State (2-5). 

PS - I am truly sorry, WolverSwede - your post, hilarious as it was, precipitated an HTML nightmare. Multiple attempts at fixing individual replies weren't working, so I had to delete the post and reply chain to fix the thread. Feel free to post it again though.

I'll miss the lamentation of Lou Holtz. Watching him freak out after the ass whoppings or last minute victories have always been some of my fondest memories. 2006 and 38-0...good bye sweet prince.

What I want to know, is did Hoke tuck his thumbs in his armpits and waggle his elbows up and throw in a few clucks when he said this?

that ND is taking a page out of the Ohio scheduling playbook.  Setting up a season packed with fluffers in the hopes of being in the hunt for a top 4 spot at the end of the year will bring them more money and praise from the fanbase than a win against Michigan every 2-3 years.  Without playing us their odds go up significantly of at least being in the hunt for a playoff spot.

I don't think ND should get the last home game in this series since they are the ones that canceled it. Brandon should tell them to eat a dick and put another team on our 2014 schedule.

I appear to be in the minority but I am more than ok with losing ND.  I'd like to play them 2 or 4x a decade and then use that slot for home and homes with other team - I love the VA Tech matchup and like (not love) the Arkansas matchup.  Anything other than Pac 10 teams which we seem to really have a lot of trouble with in pre Big 10 matchups.  But going to play a Georgia twice a decade or Oklahoma/Texas or Miami or whatever instead of ND year in and year out is a lot more interesting.  Doesnt mean I dont want to ever see ND on the schedule but how many 40-0 blowouts can we watch. ;) 

While popular to whine about this subject I like data rather than easy emotional memes, so I pulled the 2016 schedule for comparison.  Why 2016? You have the full slate of games mostly scheduled with their new conference. Notre Dame has a bunch of TBAs in 2015. 

Keep in mind they play texas in 2019/2020 to replace Michigan's slot so I am not cherry picking a year.

Comparing schedule by strongest team (by reptuation) I see little difference and can see why ND would drop Michigan (even if they did it in a doofus way on the field)

#1

ND v USC

Mich v Ohio

#2 

ND v Texas

Mich v Wisc/Nebraska

#3 

ND v Stanford

Mich v Wisc/Nebraska

#4 

ND v VA Tech

Mich v Northwestern/Sparty

#5

ND v Miami

Mich v Northwestern/Sparty

#6

ND v Sparty

Mich v Iowa/Colorado (being very generous with CO since currently they SUCK)

So is there really any difference?  Not to these eyes.  Yes maybe 2016 is loaded since they have Texas filling up a slot and no equivalent in 2017/2018 but again they play Texas again in 2019/2020.  These are slots Michigan will play the Arkansas and VA Tech's of the world.

Did they chicken out - perhaps.  But the schedule if they kept Michigan on would be absolutely brutal.  Point of this post was not if they chickened out but showing why Michigan was a logical choice and to refute those saying how easy ND has it go forward.  

Remember CFB goes to a playoff system where strength of schedule matters as well.  So playing decent non conference matters esp for teams in (ahem) not so glossy conference likes the ACC and Big 10.

I am going to start this off by saying, stop crying.  ND begged and grovel'd to join the BIG way back in the day and were denied on several fronts.  So now you want us in and we say no and we are playing dirty pool?

Right so 2016 featuring @Texas, Stanford @MSU, Miami, USC, Virginia Tech,  is a cup cake schedule?  As for not playing the top teams in the ACC in the same year, we have FSU and Lousiville in 2014.  Give me a break.

Frankly I'll hate to see this series die because it means a lot to me and my family that are mostly UM fans.

As for recruiting?  Don't think ND is afraid of you there either,  we finished 3rd to your 7th on 247s 2013 rankings.

ND doesn't want to be a regional team.  We play a national schedule.  We recruit nationally.  You recruit MI, OH, IL and PA with a couple of outliers as your 2013 recruit roster indicates.  We signed kids from FLA, CA, TX, OH, MI, MD, NJ, VA, DC, AZ... 

While I would prefer to see UM vs Purdue, there is more history between MSU & Purdue than there is with UM.  Blame whoever but I think UM was the culprit for the long breaks here.

Besides, think of the epic bowl games that will come of this.  Genius.  UM vs ND in the NCG. 

Or you can just accept the reality of college football.  Money.

Sounds like a chicken, acts like a chicken, must be a chicken.

Right?

A guy Tweeted in saying Michigan Marching Band should play "Chicken Dance" when ND takes the field.

got excite.Que the apes....

Espn front page now. This will ruffle some chicken feathers (do chickens have feathers?).

Ever since ND snubbed the Big Ten I've been in favor of all B1G teams dumping them from the schedule.  Let them play MAC schools, Navy and Air Force.

Let's extend the middle finger back and drop them in ALL sports. Red has already said hockey will not play them unless it's in the NCAAs. Already got bigger fish to fry with ND's conference foes BC, BU, UMass-Lowell and UNH all on the schedule this coming season.

Baseball, soccer and every other sport should drop them. 

They already have been ducking us in basketball since Michigan beat them in a home and home in the mid 00s.

Replaced you with Texas.

Pete Sampson and TJ34 confirmed a rumor on Irish Illustrated that Notre Dame and Texas are close to agreeing on a ten year deal. Sampson expects it to he announced in the coming weeks or months with him and TJ agreeing that final sign offs from Texas are all that's left. TJ said it "effectively replaces Michigan, and could be a deal that would get redone in future years depending on how things go quite a bit down the CFB road, obviously. It's a deal both sides want very much. Could see something along the lines of 4 games each home and home, with a couple as "Shamrock Series" equivalents in pro stadiums such as Jerry World (Dallas) and Soldier Field. Something like that TBD."