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Bracketology Projections Updated

As said in title, Lundardi has his new projections out for March Madness. I would cringe at a match up against Baylor. Their front court scares me.

 

 http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

 

 

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January 8th, 2013 at 4:55 PM | Yeah, (Score:1 Normal)
ijohnb
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that is not exactly a sweetheart of an 8/9 matchup right there.  I would like our prospects if we won that second round game.  Remember one thing, it has served me well in several pools, Syracuse is always overrated. 

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January 8th, 2013 at 4:56 PM | No (Score:1 Normal)
Saint_in_Blue
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Northwestern beat Baylor AT BAYLOR! Michigan>>>>>>Northwestern>Baylor. Case closed.

Walmart Wolverines are OK in my book!

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January 8th, 2013 at 5:04 PM | Baylor beat Kentucky too. (Score:3 Normal)
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I know the wildcats are overrated but one game does not make one team superior to the other.

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January 8th, 2013 at 5:18 PM | I feel like people are pushing the whole (Score:5 Normal)
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"transitive property does not apply" thing a bit too hard right now.

Sports is entirely based on two teams playing against each other at a specific point in time. The transitive property isn't conclusive, but neither is it meaningless.

Formerly 'mgoblaniel.'

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January 8th, 2013 at 6:10 PM | FWIW (Score:5 Normal)
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The Northwestern lineup that played Baylor was quite a bit different than the one Michigan faced.

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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January 8th, 2013 at 5:15 PM | If you are saying Baylor is (Score:2 Normal)
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If you are saying Baylor is better than Northwestern despite that one game, I would agree with you.  More times than not, Baylor beats Northwestern.  However - the fact that they lost at home to Northwestern even if it was a 1 in 10 type of situation illustrates how un-scary Baylor is as a potential Michigan opponent.  Good teams, teams that would be capable of beating Michigan, do not lose to a team by 11 points at home when Michigan stomps that same team by 28 on the road.  If NW beat Baylor by 1 and Michigan beat NW by 3 it's a whole different story. 

As to the OPs weariness about Baylor's size - NW has less size than Michigan and somehow won.  I have no idea how, but they did.  Would love this matchup. 

The swag is back. 

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January 8th, 2013 at 5:20 PM | I'd take that bracket (Score:2 Normal)
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First, I'm looking to avoid a team like Kentucky as an 8 seed (they're currently a 7 seed).  Even teams like UCLA or UNC with lots of elite young talent who could put something together.  You have to play somebody in the second round, and I think we would shred Baylor's d. 

Second, we avoid Kansas as the 2 seed, and UNLV and NCState aren't particularly scary.  I'm not sure we could see this bracket because rematches generally are avoided until the Elite 8, unless I'm mistaken.   

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January 8th, 2013 at 5:33 PM | Okay... (Score:1 Normal)
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I'm really sorry to threadjack, but this would be the kind of OP I'd take down after an hour or so and I'd feel hypocritical making a post like this myself, so I put this into the two MBB-ish threads on the board. I just have a few questions about buying basketball tickets for tomorrow (Nebraska):

  1. What's a fair price for two lower bowl tickets?
  2. What's a fair price to get two people into Crisler?
  3. Will scalpers generally get desprate for this kind of game and unload cheap outside the gate?

I see getting in costs about $25 on Craigslist and StubHub, with the cheapest lower bowl tickets going in the $60 range. Will that hold up until tipoff, or am I better off waiting to pull the trigger? Also, any advice on a good location in the upper bowl would be helpful (if I can get lower, I'm buying regardless of location), even if you don't know about the ticket market.

Go Blue!

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January 8th, 2013 at 5:48 PM | Last four out (Score:4 Normal)
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Last four out is rough on the state of Iowa. Yeesh.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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January 8th, 2013 at 5:52 PM | I echo some other posters:  (Score:3 Normal)
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First off, this is the first Bracketology that has Michigan winning the B1G instead of Indiana.  I'm fine with that.

I echo some other posters:  I'd much rather take a solid, but not-very-intimidating Baylor (or, honestly, a scarier Marquette bunch), than some other 8/9ish teams out there:  UCLA, Kentucky, North Carolina, etc.  I know they're big name programs that are having off years, but they are all still much better than 8/9 seeds.

Granted it's not gonna shake out exactly like this, the Midwest bracket looks the toughest.  UNLV, NC State, VCU, Florida, Davidson, Virginia, Syracuse, Marquette

Hail. 

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January 8th, 2013 at 6:14 PM | Lunardi likes re-matches I see (Score:1)
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Possibly ohio v Duke and M v NCST, with regards to our bracket, FLA & Cuse would cancel each other out before possibly facing us, FLA is dangerous especially with the coach they have.

 

Gonzaga, ND, Creighton and Missou are all too highly seeded IMHO

and Kansas or Ind should be the other 1 seed, not a lucky AZ

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January 8th, 2013 at 6:29 PM | Wouldn't (Score:2 Normal)
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"cringe" about any potential match up.  I'm not afraid to say it - I think we're the best team in the country.

"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman

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January 8th, 2013 at 6:44 PM | I was just thinking how I'd (Score:2)
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I was just thinking how I'd love to see this team get a shot at Blake Griffin and the Oklahoma squad that eliminated us in our return to the tourney 4 years ago.  Going into that game, there was an obvious sense amongst fans that Michigan was outgunned - not a team in the country that would give me that feeling right now. 

But as we all know basketball is a funny game and off nights lead to losses you wouldn't expect.  Just hoping we can be hot at the right time, in the tourney. 

The swag is back. 

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January 8th, 2013 at 6:53 PM | Like the locations for (Score:1)
aiglick
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Like the locations for Michigan in this bracket. Would probably rather them be in the Midwest and get a little home court advantage then have an easier bracket out West.

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

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January 8th, 2013 at 7:00 PM | That's going to be a fun (Score:2 Normal)
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That's going to be a fun weekend should they play at the Palace.

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January 8th, 2013 at 7:21 PM | Interesting Exercise... (Score:2 Informative)
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Every now and again,  they simulate the season at TeamRankings and project the probabilities of various position for all Division I teams. By their figuring, here is how the Big Ten looks right now:

 



Team Any #1 Top 4 Sweet 16 Final 4 Champ%
Indiana 100% 56% 96% 80% 44% 19.70%
Michigan 99% 19% 78% 57% 17% 3.70%
Minnesota 99% 7% 59% 48% 12% 2.30%
Ohio State 90% 1% 18% 36% 10% 2.00%
Illinois 80% 0% 13% 16% 2% 0.20%
Michigan St 82% 0% 10% 21% 4% 0.50%
Wisconsin 75% 0% 7% 22% 5% 0.80%
Iowa 13% 0% 0% 1% 0% 0.00%
Northwestern 1% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.00%
Purdue 1% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.00%
Penn State 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.00%
Nebraska 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.00%

"Any" is basically the projected  odds of making the tournament at all, and of course, "#1" and "Top 4" are basically the projected odds of being a 1-seed or in the top 4 based on their model. 

I think they do this weekly, so it will be interesting to  revisit these periodically. I am curious as to what their model takes into consideration, however, but I tend to agree with the teams that would have a better than 80% chance of making it right now. 

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