Let's say we beat Purdue and go 6-6. And MSU goes 6-6. I assume one would be taken for the Little Caesars Bowl and the other not going to a bowl. I'd have to think Michigan would get it, but does MSU beating us matter? Who'd get it? If we go 6-6, is there any way we don't make a bowl?
REMATCH. LITTLE CAESARS BOWL.
that the PizzaPizza Bowl generates...for all the money he has made for Little C's over the years. In fact, they should ditch the little Roman dude and have Gittleson holding a spear with pizza skewered on it.
And it makes me ill to think abut the possibility
Both teams will need to beat Purdue to make it to a bowl. Ironic given the expectations for both these teams at some points during the season.
The Pizza Pizza Bowl gets to choose from any remaining Big Ten team after the top 6. They'd most likely pick us since we have the larger local and national fanbase... if we're 6-6, we will make a bowl.
If they chose us, they would get a bigger payday...Ya might say they would make "crazy bread".
We're going to soundly beat Purdue Saturday.
And, Drob is going to ignite for OSU and show Terrelle Pryor what speed really is. Michigan ends 7-5. Goes to the Poulan Weed Eater Bowl.
Do they still have that one?
We need to make a bowl just for the extra practice time. This team could use the extra practice.
With 6 weeks of preparation and Minor finally healthy, I think this team would whip any team they play in a bowl if they are 7-5 or 6-6. That will also add some much needed confidence.
7-5? I'm not so sure.. at 7-5 we could end up playing in the Alamo vs Texas Tech......
Wow.. that'd be a long day..
We could actually make any of the bottom three Big Ten bowls at 6-6 as they all are free to choose any remaining bowl eligible team from the conference. But even if all three passed on us, the name recognition would probably be enough to get us into a bowl with no cachet.
game and performed well, it would be a huge positive lift for the football team. Just finishing out on a positive note would be incredibly beneficial in so many ways.
D'ton has 4 wins now. They've got Western which should be a lock. But, honestly, you never know. They already lost to Central at home. But, I'll give 'em Western.
Then State's at Purdue. That game could go either way. If I had even money, I'd choose Purdue at home, though.
Then State's home vs. Penn State. My money has Penn State as the best team in the big 10. State could beat them, but frankly, I'd be shocked if they did. PSU will be favored by more than a touchdown, and will be playing for a BCS bowl berth. Joe Pa and Jay Pa won't can't possibly lose that game.
I like our chances at winning 2 of 3 more than theirs winning 2 of 3. We get two wins and we go somewhere other than Detroit, I think. Of course, if State doesn't win 2 they're not bowl eligible.
You like our chances of winning two of three against Purdue, Wisconsin, and OSU more than MSU against WMU, Purdue, and PSU.
MSU has one virtually guaranteed win there. We have none.
that's kind of what I was thinking. IIRC didn't Central paste Western earlier this year. Seems like they won by like 30 points.
Mich 67 (behind Duke, uggh)
WMU 112 (behind Buffalo)
EMU 177 (behind Brown but just ahead of 186 Delaware State)
Comparing CMU to WMU underappreciates a good CMU team. (For disclosure, I get annoyed at a similar discounting of #44 2007 Appalachian State. Mich finished #21 in 2007 and a loss by a #21 team to a #44 team is fairly common.)
Double uggh, so we've beaten
# 21 ND
# 95 Ind
and have lost to #102 Illinois
the Pizza Pizza Bowl would shy away from a CMU/MSU rematch.....seems like CMu should win the MAC.
So yes you would think Michigan would be in a better position.
The fact that we're even discussing this prospect bothers me in places of my soul I didn't know existed.
A 6-6 MSU would have 3 conference wins on a 6-6 M. Thus, any bowl with a big ten tie in has to pick them first. Assuming the big ten sends 2 to the BCS, MSU will go to the insight bowl and M would go to the Pizza Pizza. If we only get one in, M could go anywhere, probably somewhere strange.
I'm not certain of this, but I don't think conference record matters at all. IIRC, overall record is the main criterion, and teams are allowed to be picked over others than are one game better than them (but no more than that) overall.
a 6-6 team, according to Wikipedia*
Also, bowls picking at-large may not pass over an at-large 7-5 team to grab an at-large 6-6 team.
A win over Purdue knocks the Boilers out of bowl elgibility (eight left), MSU may not make it to 6-6 from 4-6 (pizza-pizza, here we come), and it's unlikely for NW will make it to 7-5 from 5-4 @Iowa, @Ill, Wiscy (hello, Insight).
So if we win this Sat, we should at least get to the Insight Bowl in Tempe.
*Reader beware--do your own checking if it's really important.
If it's between us and MSU, which seems to be a pretty likely scenario, two immediate and contradictory issues come to mind:
1. They beat us. I don't know how they could pick us over MSU based on the head-to-head matchup.
on the other hand...
2. MSU has had issues selling out their own stadium all year. They're a notoriously fickle fanbase when it comes to underachieving football teams ("When does basketball season start? Now? OK. Who wants to buy my 8 football tickets? I'm done with them."), so I don't see them being as big of a draw as Michigan would be if we're looking at ticket sales.
The Motor City Bowl/Pizza Pizza Whatever has been clamoring for a matchup with local ties that would actually make them a hot ticket. Michigan/random MAC team, even as bad as we are and as unenthusiastic as our fanbase will be if we manage to get soundly torched by both Wisconsin and OSU, is more attractive than MSU playing someone they've already played.
It's late. I hope that made sense.
Head-to-head doesn't really matter. In 1999 UM and MSU finished the season 9-2 (6-2), and we went to the Orange Bowl over them anyway. If we are tied in overall record with MSU, we will most likely get chosen by a better bowl.
That was a BCS situation, as opposed to Big 10, so it's a little different because they can generally choose whoever the hell they want as long as they meet the various ranking/conference limit requirements. but the point is still valid: head to head doesn't mean anything and the B10 bowls can choose who they want as long as the team records are within 1 game (as mentioned earlier).
Just beat Purdue next week and then we can talk of a bowl. I hate that I have to feel this way on November 1st, especially after September.
Beautiful. We are debating the merits of the Pizza bowl vs. MSU.
Are you gonna cry in every thread? Life will go on. I fail against the Turtles every episode but my life goes on. Suck it up.
One day, when you attack those turtle boys actually will cut you some slack.
Well done. Also, the poster above you is reaching the Craven Morehead level of annoying.
You just need a couple new side kicks. B-bop and Rock Steady just aren't pulling their weight. They are fat and slow so can't possiby match up well against the agility of the Turtles. Keep the faith and hope for a better recruiting class this year. Try Florida, I hear they have a lot of speed down there.
Yeah, you should probably go cry yourself to sleep over this. I mean, life is over! We're not going to the Rose Bowl, we might as well all kill ourselves :(
I would be happy to see M in the Pizza Pizza bowl... but I guess beggers can't be choosers.
Even if MSU was selected for the pizza pizza bowl, UM is going to be an attractive at-large bid. The Pizza Pizza might be the least attractive of the other possibilities anyway, maybe you guys will go to Hawaii this year.
If M is going to go to a terrible bowl at 6-6 I would selfishly want them at the Motor City/ Pizza Pizza/ Hot n Ready/ $5.30 whatever bowl so I could at least walk to the game from my place. I can't watch M play live in Hawaii.
I think they'd pick UM over msu for money reasons. Michigan has a bigger following, which means more people.
Similarly, back in 1993, I had the same decision as the Pizza Man may have:
MSU or Michigan
This decision should be just as easy for the Pizza Man as it was me. MSU is a good plan B at best.
BOWL GAME??????!?!?!??? We need to get ELLIGIBLE for a fucking bowl game before I can even begin to think about which one we might or might not go to. And with the 3 games we have left, there is hardly a foregone conclusion here.
words you misspell.
We MAY finish 6-6. Do we really want to go to a bowl at Ford Field and get pasted by CMU? Finish 6-6 not 6-7.
We're talking about practice. I am sure we all agree that the team needs practice. Lots and lots of practice.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Central would decline the bid to their third straight Pizza Bowl if it was against us. For one, they've been there three years in a row... I'm willing to bet they'd rather go to the Poinsettia Bowl or something as an at large. And the major appeal of the Detroit bowl to them has been the home team feel... if we're in the Pizza Bowl, it will be sold out with Michigan fans.
Wow, I never thought about playing CMU. Could you imagine our secondary facing off against Dan LeFevour? Scary.