SWAT just showed up. Undetonated bombs in the street; EOD is on the case.
[Boston Terrible Things Open Thread]
Police believe they now have the second suspect in custody.
— Steve (@alertnewengland) April 19, 2013
I'd be careful about trusting that guy. I don't know much, obviously, but people were accusing him of putting out false information before anything even happened tonight. He could be completely legitimate, but information is messy with situations like this.
I didn't know that. I've been following the police scanner too and he seems to match up pretty well. I'll definitely take that into consideration though.
Scanners are indicating that there is not a second suspect in custody at this time.
This is meta, but how do you embed tweets like that? I've copied the code from 'Embed Tweet' on Twitter and switched to plain text editor on here, pasted, but when I post it just shows up as an ordinary blockquote.
The world is going to hell served up on a silver platter......
Been listening to the scanner for a while. Absolutely crazy.
Guy in custody may be mistaken identity, may not be the 2nd suspect.
— Steve (@alertnewengland) April 19, 2013
CNN has it up now.
I'm not sure what scanner you're listening to, but it sure as hell isn't the Boston Police Department.
my post has a stutter
The world dumbest criminals... If I where a criminal the last place on the planet I'd be commiting a crime right now is Boston.
I do not understand what would compel someone to harm innocent lives. Fucking assholes. If you aren't happy with the world then take your own life, not others.
Code Black at a hospital
A hospital in my hometown used code black as a bomb threat . . . I know it varies from place to place though.
I'm fairly certain it's a bomb threat. It is apparently being evacuated at the moment.
Edit: Apparently it is not being evacuated.
What the shit world.
too for live-tweeting. https://twitter.com/sethmnookin
Video of the scene in Watertown:
According to the police scanner: "White male in gray hoodie considered armed and dangerious"
Edit: Also "Police confirm MIT and Bombers are connected"
The police have confirmed that they are looking for the guys from Monday's Boston Marathon Bombing.Guy with white hat still at large.
— Michael Skolnik (@MichaelSkolnik) April 19, 2013
This is getting really weird really quickly.
where was this confirmed? they don't really look alike, particularly if you look at the latest pics of white hat dude.
edit: no point in discussing this on mgoblog :)
He is Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev and his brother of chechan origin
I really hope that you aren't a cop...
... and I really hope that you aren't a journalist.
Tell us more about how this is "confirmed".
From what I have heard, naked man has nothing to do with it. He just picked a horrible time to be running around naked in public.
He wasn't running around naked. The cops made him strip, fearing a bomb strapped to him. He turned out not to be the right guy.
This thread (and its successor) had pretty good info all night:
I know there are a decent number of us Massachusetts Wolverines out here. Stay safe, everyone.
At MIT when stopped. This is insane.
Thats scary if true.
What really scares me if thats true, is the possibility that that's not the first bomb they planted/tried to tonight.
that would seem to be the case/a concern--
they've requested mbta busses to evacute families due to concern regarding "devices."
Be the Boston marathon bombers. These guys may be part of a larger cell. This is straight out of a book.
Police are doing a door to door manhunt for the second suspect. People are being told not to answer the door unless it's clearly police. People are asleep so they aren't going to get this warning. Pray that this doesn't get even worse. If you know anyone in Watertown, warn them now.
(Sorry can't embed tweets from ipad)
Reddit has this on lock, suspect believed to be locked inside an office building and police have him surrounded, they found guns and a knife... Hope those cops are going to be ok, prayers for them.
New Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1co395/live_updates_of_boston_situation_part_2/
Boston Police Commissioner says on Twitter that one suspect is confirmed dead, the second still on the loose.
The police scanners are pretty interesting
Had military training abroad. Explains a lot, certainly.
Brutal exchange of fire in the last ten seconds or so.
I'm going to bed. Hopefully they catch this SoB by the time I wake up.
First of all, there are more of us who are good than there are those who are bad. Don't loose heart.
Secondly, for all those immediately blaming "Muslims" and "Arabs" (fortunately not on this board, but yes, on our public airwaves), go check yourselves.
Thirdly, if your younger kids are getting this information, make sure you talk to them about it. Don't ignore it. Let them know that more people are good and that there are people who help.
AP is reporting they are from Chechnya and have lived here for at least one year.
Jeeze...I go to bed and we are in the middle of a 1970's style cold war with a Eastern European terrorist cell. These two guys are right out of the middle of a 24 plot.
How is this guy still on the run? Appears this guy has completely confused FBI and Boston PD. Is it possible he has some help? SMH
A lot of places to hide in that area but it is possible he has help.
I think it appears you've been watching too many "24" reruns or Superman movies. Catching criminals isn't instantaneous in the real world.
Besides, once the idiots were ID'd in the surveillance videos and the photos were distributed by the LE authorities, they caught up with them pretty damn quickly. Unfortunately, they seem to have been determined to take as many people out as possible with them.
We watch NCIS and CSI. We know how these things work.
It's been 6 hours and he's still nowhere to be found. They better catch this bastard soon
Quad post fail
It's been 6 hours since your post and he's still nowhere to be found. They better catch this bastard soon
11 hours and now it's getting dark on the East Coast. Oh well, back to Superman III
The guy is still on the run cause they want to keep him alive.
I agree with Landry. The want him alive, not dead. They can get a much better idea of why this happened and who else might be involved if he's alive, not so much if dead.
Pretty sure two brothers didn't just wake up on Monday and decided to bomb the Boston Marathon and then strap bombs to themselves.
I second the motion.
Capture him, get your answers, then send him to hell.
What an odd way to wake up at 6 AM this morning. Woke up to the radio report from Mike and Mike about today's events. Hopefully they catch the guy responsible for these heinous acts and throw the book at him.
Standoff occuring right now on a particular house in Watertown...very interesting viewing. Hopefully this F*** is found and he's fearing/pondering the last moments of his life...
Don't "Flamebait" me on this, douchebag. Don't like my opinion on baskeball/football matters, fine, flame away. Nof for this.
One of the towns that is on lockdown. The SWAT guys have a house surrounded in Watertown, the town next to where I live, and they're calling whomever is in the house through loudspeakers with guns drawn.
Any MGoBloggers know Russian/Cyrillic?
Beware of fakes. My buddy was telling me earlier there are a handful of fake FB accounts for this guy. (Your link could be real, Edit: although I doubt changing his profile picture has been top priority over the past 8 hours, but nonetheless).
I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a real Russian-language site and a fake one. My Cyrillic-reading skills are a little rusty, as in non-existent.
in the stolen SUV and drove through the police lines.
Where'd you hear that?
I'm just waking up in California to all this news... holy crap! Wait, so I'm trying to follow the mind of international terrorists... you have 72 hours after a bombing to get to a safe house in Prague, Bolivia, Sana, Lagos, London, or wherever. Instead you stay in greater Boston.
Then, with your pictures out on the airwaves and the entire world looking for you, you decide to head out at 10pm to rob a 7-11 and jack a Mercedes.
What, were they out of smokes or something? This sounds less like sophisticated international terrorists and more like thugs gone wild. I'm glad one of them is on the run and not dead-- his last few hours will be spent in total fear. This is a good morning.
Yeah, that's a good question: why did they go out? I think it makes more sense to try to lay low and wait things out than bolt the country, but if that was their plan, why did they go to the 7-11? I think that's more confusing than why they stayed in the US. If they planned this out this well, you'd think they would have stocked up on enough food/water to last them at least a week.
so instead of knocking off a convenience store, you can just, you know, buy your smokes and Cheetos or whatever instead of pulling a gun on the clerk. Does anyone get the feeling this is some new category of "thrill terrorists"?
What a world. This is why I need Michigan sports as therapy.
Well it could be that they never expected to get out of this alive aka kill as many as they can/suicide by cop.
They went out, knocked off a 7/11 to start another spree, carjacked a guy and bam now they got the whole BPD out to get them. This is the response they wanted and expected so now they go out in a blaze of "glory".
Knocking over the 7/11, carjacking someone, all this suggests to me that they had no plan beyond the initial bombing. If this seems like an action movie, it may be because that's the main influence on their strategy (note: this is not a "violent movies caused this" argument.)
They were laying another bomb from what I've heard/read. Security guard saw them and was shot. Then this whole thing happened.
Great link that has been updated all night and is currently being updated as news comes out (most recently 45 minutes ago when police ordered buses to evacuate neighbors of the house that is surrounded by SWAT).
and flee. But, they must have assumed they wouldn't get caught up with so fast AND had more terrorism plans to carry out. Hopefully they'll find him very quickly. But there's no way he's captured alive at this point.
FYI, the guy who had his legs blown off (you've probably seen his picture by now), apparently helped authorities identify the older brother. Just absolutely crazy. LINK
and there's a terrorist on the loose in Boston who just killed several people less than a week ago. Why don't you understand this is a big deal?
Or would you propose we scour RCMB for more posts titled "ROFL Sparty so dum"?
This is veering into politics...which is a no-no 'round these parts.
I think he is talking about people who rent and live in other people's houses... makes sense to me.
Good thing we have the 3rd Amendment then.
He might have inside info on the bombers. Maybe they were renting their apartment. One can never be too sure about these things.
But I could have sworn that Lanza, McVeigh, Kazynski (sp) Harris, and Klebold were US citizens. There are people that are angry, some that are brainwashed or manipulated, and some that are crazy, or just simply want to see the world burn.
Closing borders, taking guns,or any drastic knee jerk reaction isn't going to fix anything as long as we occupy this planet.
Also, this would somewhat inhibit the millions of non-violent immigrants, visa holders (such as myself) and people contributing international expertise to your economy/society.
FWIW, everyone living in the United States/Canada...all the families came as immigrants.
They're almost as bad as the Dutch.
Don't hate us for our NHL talent, our cultural contibutions (have you had the poutine at Zingerman's?) or our ingenuity (Affleck's movie...that's us who actually pulled that off).
We gave you Yzerman, Pamela Anderson, John Candy, Wayne Gretzky...but also Tom Green (you can keep him).
Close the borders and nobody's drinking in Windsor at 19 either.
Food for thought.
Poutine.... Have you tried Poutini's House of Poutine in T.O.? It's TREMENDOUS.
And my wife is a huge fan of the Murdoch Mysteries (but mostly of Yannick Bisson).
You root for the same team as me.
unless you are being sarcastic. In which case, I am ashamed I didn't catch it.
Why don't we just preemptively lock up every young man between the ages of 18 and 30?
Points return in a month.
To make this easier on people, any post demanding or requesting a specific political or policy solution is going to lose points in addition to claims about specific officials and the usually obvious stuff ("Obama sux", "Obama's teh best", ect.). Abstract discussion only, and even then tread lightly.
Just be happy you weren't sent to Bolivia, as your return would be difficult because we've since shut down the boarders. Or as we say in America, borders.
I give you the pretend upvote.
I hearBolivia opened their borders to you... Stay there
Sure thing, goober. You do realize this is a nation of immigrants?
Watching NBC riveted to TV, while listening to the police scanner.
The scanner is here. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam
What's some of the latest chatter? I'm at work, so can't listen to the scanner. I feel like things have been pretty quiet over the last couple hours, which is odd, since it seemed like they had him surrounded in a house.
They have a suspect in custody. He had a body vest on and something in his hand/pocket. This is a different guy than the one they are looking for. It sounds like they have this area pretty well sealed and they are continuing to check out houses.
That interview with their uncle was pretty amazing.
Everyone keeps asking why they didn't leave. Obviously, these guys are pretty twisted and beyond thinking rationally about anything. Hopefully no one else is injured, these guys seem literally hell bent on destruction.
I hope they can take the younger one in peacefully, maybe we can get a window into why they did this, so that authorities can understand better how to deal with people like this in the future. It has been so long since I have felt safe, I miss that feeling.
ABC News ran an interesting piece on some things that the father of the suspects said - (HERE)
I guess they spoke with Anzor Tsarnaev at his home in Makhachkala in Russia, and he said that he would encourage his son to surrender peacefully (and, according to one quote, he would like him to return to Russia), but warned that "all hell would break loose" if he were to be killed, as he claimed that this would be proof that "some organization" was after him, more or less.
There are also some pieces of interviews with people who knew Dzhokhar Tsarnaev from his time in high school.
He's threatening us if his son gets hurt? Does he know what the fuck his son is accused of doing???
I live in Watertown. The police presence has been great, but this whole thing has been a bit surreal.
I'm looking forward to when he's caught so we can all breathe a little easier.
Take care. Have you had a SWAT team come through your house?
I'm about 1.5 miles from where they currently are so we haven't been in the focus area. I get nervous though because it started before 4am and he could've gotten out of where they are searching.
Suspect now has hostage locked inside a house.
I'm only half listening to the police scanner but I have heard that word dropped.
EDIT: House with "hostage" was clear. They were scared of cop with gun.
But MGoBlog....the site that never sleeps.
I live less than five minutes from the stuff in Watertown. In one of the towns that's on lockdown. I am getting cabin fever here.
Can someone knowledgeable on the subject elaborate a bit on Chechen-American relations? I would have thought there'd be some enemy of my enemy sentiment on the part of Chechnya, but so much for that.
I'm getting the impression there were a bunch of Chechen "sleeper cells" dispersed around the West over the past year. Three were arrested in France in March and other in August 2012 in Spain. LINK.
The republic has had troubled past 150 years.
We're not exactly enemies of Russia. We've more or less given them a free hand when it comes to dealing with Chechnya.
In any event, it sounds like these two were more jihadists in general and not just Chechen nationalists.
From what I just read, police officials are now searching for a green Honda Civic. It is a possibility that the suspect has gotten past the police ring.
EDIT: The search for the Civic is cancelled. It is still believed they have the area surrounded where he is believed to be.
Sooo, sounds like he got away? Yikes.
Police in Massachusetts and Connecticut are hunting for a green Honda...The car was described as a green Honda Civic with Massachusetts plate number 116 GC7. It was not known who owned the car, but the police bulletin could mean authorities fear remaining suspect Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, whose brother and fellow bombing suspect was killed early Friday, could have slipped out of the tight perimeter formed by police and FBI agents in the Watertown section of Boston.
For you guys in the area, stay safe.
The Civic was found earlier. The new car to look out for is:
95 Honda Odyssey - Gray - 93NN73
EDIT: That has been found and secured.
Hondas are the preferred getaway car of criminals everywhere.
Hondas are very reliable. Even criminals would know that.
I should also point out that it sounds like there are several suspects at this point. One was killed earlier, another was taken into custody about an hour ago, there's the one that they are looking for, and there's another that was just reported wearing tactical gear. This is likely a sleeper cell and "suspect" does not necessarily mean the guy they have been chasing, but anyone associated with them as well. That means these car searches might be cars registered to people they believe to be members of the cell.
EDIT: The fourth guy that I mentioned ended up being an FBI agent.
Sleeper cell? I think you've been reading too many Brad Thor novels. Most likely these are people who know the suspects, but are not involved in their plot.
Eh. "Sleeper cell" is what other people have been calling it so that's what I used too. Whatever it is, I don't think it was just the two of them, which is why I think they are looking for cars.
It sounds like they just found another device with multiple circuit boards.
Where did you hear that?
Can you give me the link?
Is there anything significant about it having multiple circuit boards?
It was actually a car, not a device. So, the significance seems to be that it could have belonged to or been in use by the suspects.
I'm a physician living in Boston and was part of the first response team on Monday. There were limbs everywhere, we literally couldn't put in enough IV's and there was nothing put smoke and haze everywhere. It was twenty minutes but it seemed like two hours and when the police cleared us because another bomb was found, was the only time I could truly process. It was horrific. I haven't slept well the last few nights and frankly I'm not sure why something like this would even happen. I keep thinking of the eight year old boy who only wanted to be there for his dad as he crossed the finish line.
Today the hospital was on lockdown as gunshots were being fired outside, and helicopters were flying around. We could see them from the cafeteria while eating breakfast. A variety of my fellow attendings and a few residents decided just to stay at home rather than take the risk. This entire time has been surreal and I'm not sure when it's going to end.
Two suspects are in custordy now, with a third surrounded, but none of them are the white hat guy.
Local news WBZ 4 is reporting that suspect #2 is surrounded in Watertown hiding in a boat in the backyard of 67 Franklin St. Thermo imaging cameras found him.
You think that stuff is just the province of video games...
There was a press conference by authorities where they said that they were lifting the "stay inside" order and that public transit was reopening. A few minutes after ending the press conference, gun shots were heard down the street which brought along these developments.
Supposedly they have someone surrounded who is sitting in a boat right now
PHOTO: WCVB is reporting that this is the boat where the suspect was hiding behind this Watertown, MA, home twitter.com/NewsBreaker/st…
— NewsBreaker(@NewsBreaker) April 19, 2013
Edit: Now there's fire in the boat? Certainly seem incriminating enough
Sending in a robot to check for bombs
so that's nice that we might get him alive. Problem would be that he probably has a suicide vest at the moment
The police scanner I'm listening to just had the following dialogue
"Also we've got a problem. Your feed is being broadcast on the internet"
has nothing to do with a conspiracy theory as long as they are going door to door until they discover who they are going to shoot.
I did not expect that at all. Hopefully he survives, I'm betting that guy has some bad injuries
Got him!!!!!! Woooo!!!!!!
Going to have a drink in respect to the memory of Sean Collier.
Fucker is in custody.