This is veering into politics...which is a no-no 'round these parts.
in re: is GRIII on a tear
This is veering into politics...which is a no-no 'round these parts.
I think he is talking about people who rent and live in other people's houses... makes sense to me.
Good thing we have the 3rd Amendment then.
He might have inside info on the bombers. Maybe they were renting their apartment. One can never be too sure about these things.
But I could have sworn that Lanza, McVeigh, Kazynski (sp) Harris, and Klebold were US citizens. There are people that are angry, some that are brainwashed or manipulated, and some that are crazy, or just simply want to see the world burn.
Closing borders, taking guns,or any drastic knee jerk reaction isn't going to fix anything as long as we occupy this planet.
Also, this would somewhat inhibit the millions of non-violent immigrants, visa holders (such as myself) and people contributing international expertise to your economy/society.
FWIW, everyone living in the United States/Canada...all the families came as immigrants.
They're almost as bad as the Dutch.
Don't hate us for our NHL talent, our cultural contibutions (have you had the poutine at Zingerman's?) or our ingenuity (Affleck's movie...that's us who actually pulled that off).
We gave you Yzerman, Pamela Anderson, John Candy, Wayne Gretzky...but also Tom Green (you can keep him).
Close the borders and nobody's drinking in Windsor at 19 either.
Food for thought.
Poutine.... Have you tried Poutini's House of Poutine in T.O.? It's TREMENDOUS.
And my wife is a huge fan of the Murdoch Mysteries (but mostly of Yannick Bisson).
You root for the same team as me.
unless you are being sarcastic. In which case, I am ashamed I didn't catch it.
Why don't we just preemptively lock up every young man between the ages of 18 and 30?
Points return in a month.
To make this easier on people, any post demanding or requesting a specific political or policy solution is going to lose points in addition to claims about specific officials and the usually obvious stuff ("Obama sux", "Obama's teh best", ect.). Abstract discussion only, and even then tread lightly.
Just be happy you weren't sent to Bolivia, as your return would be difficult because we've since shut down the boarders. Or as we say in America, borders.
I give you the pretend upvote.
I hearBolivia opened their borders to you... Stay there
Sure thing, goober. You do realize this is a nation of immigrants?
Watching NBC riveted to TV, while listening to the police scanner.
The scanner is here. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam
What's some of the latest chatter? I'm at work, so can't listen to the scanner. I feel like things have been pretty quiet over the last couple hours, which is odd, since it seemed like they had him surrounded in a house.
They have a suspect in custody. He had a body vest on and something in his hand/pocket. This is a different guy than the one they are looking for. It sounds like they have this area pretty well sealed and they are continuing to check out houses.
That interview with their uncle was pretty amazing.
Everyone keeps asking why they didn't leave. Obviously, these guys are pretty twisted and beyond thinking rationally about anything. Hopefully no one else is injured, these guys seem literally hell bent on destruction.
I hope they can take the younger one in peacefully, maybe we can get a window into why they did this, so that authorities can understand better how to deal with people like this in the future. It has been so long since I have felt safe, I miss that feeling.
ABC News ran an interesting piece on some things that the father of the suspects said - (HERE)
I guess they spoke with Anzor Tsarnaev at his home in Makhachkala in Russia, and he said that he would encourage his son to surrender peacefully (and, according to one quote, he would like him to return to Russia), but warned that "all hell would break loose" if he were to be killed, as he claimed that this would be proof that "some organization" was after him, more or less.
There are also some pieces of interviews with people who knew Dzhokhar Tsarnaev from his time in high school.
He's threatening us if his son gets hurt? Does he know what the fuck his son is accused of doing???
I live in Watertown. The police presence has been great, but this whole thing has been a bit surreal.
I'm looking forward to when he's caught so we can all breathe a little easier.
Take care. Have you had a SWAT team come through your house?
I'm about 1.5 miles from where they currently are so we haven't been in the focus area. I get nervous though because it started before 4am and he could've gotten out of where they are searching.
Suspect now has hostage locked inside a house.
I'm only half listening to the police scanner but I have heard that word dropped.
EDIT: House with "hostage" was clear. They were scared of cop with gun.
But MGoBlog....the site that never sleeps.
I live less than five minutes from the stuff in Watertown. In one of the towns that's on lockdown. I am getting cabin fever here.
Can someone knowledgeable on the subject elaborate a bit on Chechen-American relations? I would have thought there'd be some enemy of my enemy sentiment on the part of Chechnya, but so much for that.
I'm getting the impression there were a bunch of Chechen "sleeper cells" dispersed around the West over the past year. Three were arrested in France in March and other in August 2012 in Spain. LINK.
The republic has had troubled past 150 years.
We're not exactly enemies of Russia. We've more or less given them a free hand when it comes to dealing with Chechnya.
In any event, it sounds like these two were more jihadists in general and not just Chechen nationalists.
From what I just read, police officials are now searching for a green Honda Civic. It is a possibility that the suspect has gotten past the police ring.
EDIT: The search for the Civic is cancelled. It is still believed they have the area surrounded where he is believed to be.
Sooo, sounds like he got away? Yikes.
Police in Massachusetts and Connecticut are hunting for a green Honda...The car was described as a green Honda Civic with Massachusetts plate number 116 GC7. It was not known who owned the car, but the police bulletin could mean authorities fear remaining suspect Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, whose brother and fellow bombing suspect was killed early Friday, could have slipped out of the tight perimeter formed by police and FBI agents in the Watertown section of Boston.
For you guys in the area, stay safe.
The Civic was found earlier. The new car to look out for is:
95 Honda Odyssey - Gray - 93NN73
EDIT: That has been found and secured.
Hondas are the preferred getaway car of criminals everywhere.
Hondas are very reliable. Even criminals would know that.
I should also point out that it sounds like there are several suspects at this point. One was killed earlier, another was taken into custody about an hour ago, there's the one that they are looking for, and there's another that was just reported wearing tactical gear. This is likely a sleeper cell and "suspect" does not necessarily mean the guy they have been chasing, but anyone associated with them as well. That means these car searches might be cars registered to people they believe to be members of the cell.
EDIT: The fourth guy that I mentioned ended up being an FBI agent.
Sleeper cell? I think you've been reading too many Brad Thor novels. Most likely these are people who know the suspects, but are not involved in their plot.
Eh. "Sleeper cell" is what other people have been calling it so that's what I used too. Whatever it is, I don't think it was just the two of them, which is why I think they are looking for cars.
It sounds like they just found another device with multiple circuit boards.
Where did you hear that?
Can you give me the link?
Is there anything significant about it having multiple circuit boards?
It was actually a car, not a device. So, the significance seems to be that it could have belonged to or been in use by the suspects.
I'm a physician living in Boston and was part of the first response team on Monday. There were limbs everywhere, we literally couldn't put in enough IV's and there was nothing put smoke and haze everywhere. It was twenty minutes but it seemed like two hours and when the police cleared us because another bomb was found, was the only time I could truly process. It was horrific. I haven't slept well the last few nights and frankly I'm not sure why something like this would even happen. I keep thinking of the eight year old boy who only wanted to be there for his dad as he crossed the finish line.
Today the hospital was on lockdown as gunshots were being fired outside, and helicopters were flying around. We could see them from the cafeteria while eating breakfast. A variety of my fellow attendings and a few residents decided just to stay at home rather than take the risk. This entire time has been surreal and I'm not sure when it's going to end.