No surprise there, I thought it was only a matter of time honestly.
Also, the Ohio got another commit today from DE/LB Lewis Neal.
No surprise there, I thought it was only a matter of time honestly.
Also, the Ohio got another commit today from DE/LB Lewis Neal.
Or do you just live on here and live vicariously through the Mgocommunity?
But I'm about to go to the library. So HA!
Has that Broseph Buckeye quality to him. Good fit.
One look at his mugshot on Rivals, and I knew Mr. Bosa was Buckeye material. He will be fun to hate for the next few years.
It would be great if we never even thought about him again because he turned out to be a bust.
I hope you're right, but I have a feeling he's going to be a good one (personal fouls aside, maybe.)
that vacant, Katzenmoyer-esque look about him.
BUT WE WERE IN HIS TOP TWO AFTER THIS VISIT!!!!!!!!!! all hail king urbs for winning another incredible batttle over us
To young Mr Bosa. Still, Go blue!
STOP saying "good luck" to players who go to our biggest rival that we were also interested in. Do you "really" wish him good luck? You might as well just say, "Mr. Bosa, I hope you have 4 sacks again Shane in The Game in 2015".
I don't wish him any luck at all. People here really need to stop saying that and just be honest - "Mr. Bosa, I'm sorry you chose an inferior school - I hope you have an incredibly lackluster career and your four star rating is shown as extremely overrated in late November for the next 4/5 years by the likes of Kalis and Co."
Never wish ill will on teenagers. These are kids. I wish him all of the luck in 11 games a year, but that one Saturday in November we're gunna run him over. We aren't [Redacted MSU insult] or Ohio who wish that these players spontaneously combust or tear an ACL. Remember they are 16 or 17 years old!!
[ED:BISB - Only the sentiment expressed has saved you from Bolivian. Let this serve as a Public Service Announcement: Brian has declared that calling MSU an insult rhyming with 'Martina" is grounds for a paddling.]
There is a big difference between wishing someone good luck and hoping that they suffer a debilitating injury. Shooting for somewhere inbetween would be good.
show me where in my post I wished ill will upon him.
Or... we could not be absolute assholes to teenage kids. We could respect their decisions and acknowledge them for their accomplishments and their talent. There is no reason that someone cannot wish a kid good luck in 11 out of the 12 games they will play on a yearly basis.
Find a little bit of maturity, show some class, be representative of what it means to be a true Michigan fan. Good luck to Bosa, and as always, Go Blue.
How saying "I hope you have a lackluster career" is being an asshole. I'm not sending a text, a tweet or an email to him. I'm on a Michigan Blog. Stop the "high and mighty" act. I never said I wanted him to get hurt.
So Kyle, before every game are you the type of guy that goes over to the OSU bench and says "Hey guys, go out there and have a great game against Michigan! I sure hope ya don't beat us.. but golly gee, GOOD LUCK!"
You clearly aren't understanding. Bosa is a young man with a future ahead of him. A future probably largely tied to his performance in football. Saying you hope he has a luckluster career is basically saying you hope he fails. The fact that you are on a Michigan blog doesn't change that sentiment. What it does is reflect poorly on the rest of us Michigan fans.
Going to Columbus once wearing Michigan gear, you'll understand why you don't wish any of them good luck.
So you do that once for me - go to the 'Shoe, wear your gear - cheer for Michigan and see how you feel after the game. Their fan base does not deserve respect after the way my friends and I were treated.
I've been to the Shoe in Michigan gear. It was awful. I won't do it again.
Some of the fans in their fanbase don't deserve respect. Some do. Hell some of OSU's players don't deserve respect (Pryor) but some do. However, you aren't selectively disrespecting those people by saying you hope Bosa fails you are disrespecting Bosa. Learn the difference.
So you are the type of guy you stereotypes an entire group of people based off one incident where you got your feelings hurt? Again, please grow up, not all Buckeye fans/players are horrible people. Last I knew, they were just as human as you or me, and most have probably done nothing to earn your personal lack of respect.
small sample size. These fans are delusional and blind to anything not scarlet and gray. Please don't come on here with a "holier than thou" act because it does no good. This is a blog. On the internet. He's not saying anything demeaning, however, I know many, many people that live in Columbus and they react to Michigan and Michigan football the same way every time: with complete and utter disrespect. There is virtually no respect for UM in that town. What good do you think comes by being "respectful" to anything associated with that program on an internet blog? Nothing. Yes, rivals are supposed to hate each other, but they take it to a level where sports becomes a side story. They incorporate their hatred of UM in their way of life. After their home games, never mind who they play, they always sing that stupid song where they have to trash UM. It could be Akron. It could be Penn State. It could be an invading alien force. It does not matter to them. They still trash UM. Honestly, the best policy when these guys go to Ohio would be to simply leave it at, "Poor choice dude" and move on.
Who peed in your Cheerios? Wishing a kid (and we are talking about kids here) good luck doesn't mean that you hope that his team beats Michigan.
I wished no ill will upon Bosa. My point was that I think sometimes we as Michigan fans take the PC route too far. This was proven by the first response of "WRONG WRONG WRONG" - the person who responded didn't even really look at what I wrote and automatically assumed that since I didn't wish him good luck that I was acting childishly and I wasn't a true fan and should be booted from this board... Michigan hates OSU, OSU hates Michigan - thats why it's such a great rivalry. If we all acted like 18th century gentleman having tea together the rivalry wouldn't be what it is today.
To me, when you wish someone "Good luck" you want them to have success. Them (OSU) having success means a smaller percentage of success for us against them. Therefore, as a Michigan fan I do not want him to perform as well as advertised (4*) - I don't feel this is disrespectful at all. To wish injury is horrible and I would never and will never wish that upon even my most hated rival.
Anyway, I apologize if I got a little heated - and I shouldn't stereotype an entire fan base (Kyle's right), it's just when you have a sample size of about 15-20, and all conform to that stereotype, compounded with my own (extremely) negative experience in their home stadium (multiple fans) - it's very hard for me to see anything but red (I know, horrible pun) when I think about OSU. So wishing a recruit good luck is the farthest thing from my mind. If that makes me a "bad fan", then so be it. But I'd rather not put good kharma vibes into the universe for anyone that wears the scarlet and grey.
I hope he gets a great education, finds a cure for cancer and is a four year starter on a Bucknuts team that goes 0-56!
Question for lurking Buckeye fans:
It sounds like you now have four DL commits (Bosa, Neal, Sprinkle, and Price). Given the limited scholarships available, are you finished with the DL for this class? I'm asking because I'm curious if this makes Henry Poggi a Michigan vs. Alabama battle.
I certainly hope we are finished.. For all the reasons you mentioned, it's time to look elsewhere. We are at 13 spots, most recruitniks say we will be at 17 or 18 for the class. We still need 2 more OL, at least one more WR, maybe a DB, maybe another LB, and maybe another RB.
Also, we are expected to get TE Mike Heuerman sometime this week as well (perhaps as soon as today)
No, this is Fickell and Vrabel's new scheme. Line up 7 DTs and 4DEs, then laugh when teams try to run.
And we'd still just follow Kalis right past Tommy Schutt.
Lewis Neal as well.
To the post above mine, I think this is hte last DL recruit we take, considering the schollie crunch.
You couldn't possibly have started this account within one minute of me addressing a question to lurking Buckeye fans, could you?
It was purely coincidence that I decided to register a log in at this moment.
Don't expect too many posts though, I intend to live up to the moniker ;)
Your avatar is stupid.
Of your name. Cool nut, is it endangered?
What is the feeling in Buckeyeland about your O-Line prospects for this year? After last year, we expected to see more OL and less DL recruiting from Urb, and many of your apparent targets have dropped off the board.
(BTW, any answer other than "OMG WE IZ PANICKED!!!" will not please us. So, throw us a bone here)
Panicked, no, uneasy, perhaps. In the same way that Hoke has fostered a palpable increase in DL confidence within your fanbase, last year's OL class has shown us that we're not in danger at the moment. With the lead in the Pocic sweepstakes, and evaluation still being done, I personally won't be panicking after NSD 2013, but I think you'll see his priorities change polarity immediately for the 2014 class. See: Jimmy Byrne. Also 3 other offers out on O-linemen already for 2014, out of a small pool of offers.
Serioulsly - what is going on with your avatar? I mean, you spent some time uploading it. It's a pile of cash...and....a laptop? I don't understand.
Cam Newton originally sign with? And for how much? And didn't he get caught with some, well, borrowed laptops before getting tossed from UF? Oh yeah, and who coached the football team of that fine academic institution?
before the burglary. Not sure why that's his avatar though.
It is a picture of Terrelle Pryor's dorm room I believe.
No, he stole AJ Hawk's money.
Because of scholarship constraints and a lower number class to begin with, Ohio is almost out of spots. That means that any recruiting battles between M and Ohio might come down to whether or not Ohio has room, whereas it seems like Hoke has specifically reserved spots for these guys that he wants.
I think the main battles are now for Dymonte Thomas (long shot) and Laquan Treadwell (seems to be favoring UM)
If you guys re-open to Pocic, add him to the list since OSU is heavily targeting him.
Don't care what you or anyone on this board says that kid is solid.
Next time this topic comes up, please remember me as the Ohio State fan that agrees with you. I wish our fanbase would stop poking the bear about it and have an ounce of pragmatism, and that your fanbase could just chalk it up to wishful thinking, and drop it.
Totally agree here. The Thomad boat has pretty much sailed. I'd say our chances of getting him now are maybe in the 2% range. Just my opinion, but the staff seems to be holding out for Bell now, especially after he said OSU was his favorite visit so far. If we land Bell, I don't think you'll anything about Thomas from OSU fans anymore.
I don't think Dymonte was recruiting Ben Gedeon to Michigan so he could play against him.
Clearly, you don't understand what's going on. Dymonte recruited Gedeon to Michigan because he knows that Gedeon is terrible and Meyer has Dymonte working from the inside to sabotage Michigan until just before Signing Day.
I'm not saying anything about the likelihood of him flipping (in fact, I said it was a long shot). I'm just saying that I think Urban will want to fight this one out.
Bosa's a good player...but he fits in better at OSU.
Yeah. Him and Billy Price can Twit-rip Michigan for the next few years together.
Oh no their dline is going to be ridiclous! Oh wait we have LTT, Fox, Bosch, Dawson, AND Kugleybear (yeah I like this name more than his real one), LOL have fun Mr. Bosa. A bunch of pissed off 6'5"+ dudes are going to pancake you!
But really though, their DLine will probably be ridiculous. We will have some good battles up front in coming years.
Mich-OSU games are going to feature some epic battles in the trenches over the next several years. As it should be.
Operation Big Two/Little Ten is approaching deployment
His family has strong ties to Ohio. His dad married his Dolphins teammate and former Ohio FB player's (Eric Kumerow) sister, and it's rumored that his mother may have gone to Ohio as well. Expect Mike Heuerman (brother Jeff is a current TE on Ohio) to commit this week as well.
Players to really follow are Ethan Pocic, Laquon Treadwell, and Jaylon Smith. Ohio has built in advantages with Pocic and Smith (Michigan and ND are full on OL and Smith's brother Rod is a RB on Ohio). Treadwell is a real head to head battle between Michigan and Ohio.
The story is he is coming in as a LB instead of DE.
Based on his tape I can see that.
Not a DT? Then do not care.
FWIW for our Bucknut lurkees; does Urban plan on recruiting O-lineman? Excluding Lisle (who looks like a RS candidate at his listed 250+#) y'all have swung and missed on a lot of recruits. Pocic looks like the most likely addition...but Tunsil is just as big a pipe-dream to OSU as Craven is to UMich.
Dodson, O'Connor and Decker were good 2012 signees.
tOSUs 2011 O-line class is chock full of 2 and 3 stars
Is Rivals right that there was 1 O-line signee (Norman)?
I would be terrified if I were Braxton Miller. His junior, senior years sound like Denard's 2010 campaign. Great start, then injuries once the B1G schedule rolls around.
OL and WR is the big target from here on out. Lazard to WVU was a surprise.
They are now the favorites with Pocic with Michigan and ND full at OL. If Pocic wants to stay in the Midwest and play for a traditional power, Ohio is his only choice left. Ohio rolled the dice to sell out for him, and it may pay off for them. Pocic and Lisle would be a good haul, and there are enough solid prospects out there that I'm sure they will be able to get a decent third OL if not a super. Never would have predicted the ridiculous OL recruiting classes that Michigan and ND would pull before May...
FRANK! This here is my shocked face.
No crystal ball needed before that announcement. After that 'school up north' comment I can't wait for our Oline to make him eat dirt.
[EDIT] Is there something on this post I can click on to state how REDUNDANT this is?
can't wait for his de-commit to the esss eeee seee.
He is in the SEC North and will get all of the lies (and vagina) needed to stay.
I am a bit suprised of the lack of sucess we have had in getting some big time DE the last two years. I thought with that being Mattison and Hokes speciality the big timers would be signing up the way they have for the OL.
We got Charlton, Wormley, Ojemudia, Strobel, and Godin. They're not #1 at their positions, but they're not chopped liver, either.
I was going to post all the commits we had but knew I would forget one so I left it to a semi-guru like yourself.
I need you to pay attention better
What Magnus said.
Also, someone may correct me if I'm wrong (Magnus), but I think the knock on many of our D-Line/DE commits is that they need to get in the weight room and bulk up or work on technique. There's usually not too much criticism of their physical abilities. If any coaching staff can teach and get the most of these kids talent, it's Hoke and Mattison.
Charlton: needs bulk and technique
Ojemudia: needs bulk
Godin: needs technique
Wormley: questions about motor
Strobel: needs bulk to play SDE, not so much if he plays WDE
I'm right for the most part in that generalization. And if so, I have complete confidence in the coaches ability to do what is neccesary. Which in turn means I have complete confidence into these guys turning our D-Line into a terror for opposing teams.
I heard there will be blood on the field, but that it won't belong to one Mr.Kalis.
M v. Ohio will be epic for the next 10 to 15 years. I suspect we'll be squaring off twice a year several times in this span.
Nothing to see here Little Prince Dantonio. We all know you're the new boss.
what a shame the kid just doen't know whats good for him, boo buckeye boo
If we get back in the Pocic sweepstakes if we strike out with Levenberry.......
Doubtful. We're full at OL.
maybe we did only because I thought the staff would go for the best available player if some scholly's open up. Ideally, I would like to beef up with some more interior D lineman and 2 more wide recievers along with Isaac.
Word from the street is that Michigan cooled off on him. Besides he isn't very good at football.
OSU has some great players coming in on the D-Line. If the coaching staff there coaches them up correctly they can be scary. But Neal doesn't really scare me, looks very slow on tape, even a lot of people at 11 Warriors feel the same. They should be more worried about recruiting skill positions than anything now that they've filled up on the D-Line, because besides Marshall, they don't have too many players fit for Urban's O.
Zeke Elliot is a speed back, Baugh is a big, fast, Hernandez-type TE, and Shelton Gibson is rumored to be a silent commit who will wait until his mother's birthday to commit. These guys fit the system pretty well. Otherwise, James Quick is interested, but this is where the lack of scholarships really hurt.
Elliot is a speed back, but he still doesn't seem to be the perfect fit IMO. He reminds me of a Rainey or Demps, neither of whom ever seperated themselves to become a back you're really scared off. And Elliot is still the only committ, him as the only back doesn't really scare me.
Baugh seems good. Gibson is rumored to be a silent committ from what I've read on 11 Warriors, but so was Lazard. I've seen a ton of stuff with him and Auburn as well. And only Rivals seems to be overly high on him.
As far as our offensive recruits, Jalin Marshall is the gem of the class. OSU fans are drooling over what he may do in Urban's offense. Speed, athelticism, shiftiness, and strength. I've seen him play in person 4 times and the kid is legit. If I had to pick one kid in the class that Michigan should trade for if they could, it'd be him. After Denard leaves, I don't know if you'll have anyone on the roster that can make the kind of crazy plays this kid can.
I mean, any predictions about a guy like Elliot is speculation, but he has the skill set to be Urban's kind of playmaker. And Gibson hasn't talked to Auburn in a very long time. His situation is different than Lazard's. Urban slow-played Lazard to try to see the options open, and Lazard got won over by another school. Not saying it can't happen with Gibson too, but he has a committable offer that he's waiting to announce on.
It makes me laugh seeing their class almost full already because when they had 5 commits OSU fans were all saying "Meyer is holding off on commits until kids prove themselves at camp" and "scUM (god I hate that) may be getting some commits, but it is stupid to fill up youc class early because you miss out on the senior year late bloomers". Now they cannot stop drooling over every guy that they get. Hypocrites at their best.
I thought that Urban didn't offer 3 stars. I thought Lewis Neal's offer was non-commitable.
...but not thread-worthy: How does one pronounce Su'a? Is it "soo-aye" or "s-way"?
I can't quite put my finger on why but definitely knew he was going to go to ohio over michigan as soon as I saw his profile on rivals