Per Steve Lorenz Twitter:
To this I say, good luck Irish!
Until ND lights up Michigan next year.
ND will have a very good offense even with Al next year. Hopefully our D plays better than the bowl game.
as a starter when Golson is coming back?
Golson vs. Michigan in 2012 was 3 for 8 with 30 yards, 2 INTs and had a 19.0 QB ranking. I know it was bad weather, but still.
Reese was really good versus Michigan in his career (despite going 1-2). I think you count him as a big loss at least against Michigan.
it was his second career start. He got better as the season went along. It'll be interesting to see how he comes back from not having any practices in the fall and bowl season.
ND does not play Michigan next year (a.k.a. 2015). AND they won't light up Michigan this year because of Mattison & Co.
The same Mattison and Co. that made KSU look like the Denver Broncos?
Most of their offense happened in the first half, then they were held to 3 points until the very end. They didn't break 300 yards passing. It was also mostly Lockett in the first half because our corners couldn't keep up with him. The defense wasn't very good, but wasn't nearly as bad in the bowl game as people seem to think.
That's pretty bad, isn't it? I'm not absolutely certain but I believe the last time Michigan force just one punt in a game was 2010 Wisconsin. It's tied for third-worst all time (there might be a lot of games in that tie though).
I think you can even make an argument that the only reason the score was held down as much as it was is that our offense was able to hold onto the ball in the first half and shorten the game, a process KSU was happy to continue on their own once they got up 15.
And the missed FG followed a dropped pass in the endzone.
the undeserved ND love here, but we didn't get better defensively in the KSU game as it went on----KSU simply ran out the clock when they knew we weren't going to score offensively.
Hey, ND won't have nussing on us next year! Book it!
Yep, let's judge Mattison on the bowl game and not the preceding 2.9 years.
didnt his dismissal have a clause about receiving his 2014 only if he looked for another job, since the deal was that we would cover the gross up between his um salary and new one? ND is probably interviewing, him so we have to pay.
the current ND offense, I would be stunned to actually see it work. Actually if Borges magically ran spread and tempo after one year it would be the all-time epic Troll of Trolling.
oh, my god
I'm not religious but I think I can send up a quick prayer for this one to the god of football comedy
Hopefully the saying "one mans trash is another mans treasure" doesn't hold true in this situation.
Here's to hopeless prayers... I'll send out some useless cosmic thoughts or something...
falls on his feet. This would qualify as such. An added bonus would be watching ND struggle. I have no doubt that Mattison could and would outscheme him in next year's game.
I hope he lands on his feet. Falling on them could do some serious damage at his size.
Whether he falls or lands on his feet, AB's finances will be strong. I believe he had one more year left on his Michigan contract. When he was fired I heard someone say that the amount Michigan owes him will be offset by what he is paid by his next employer, assuming he wishes to work next year.
I don't understand how this is possible.
He looked pretty good last time ND saw him.
Yeah and I'm sure Kelly is ignoring every other offensive performance under Borges.
That you don't understand
All the LOLZ aside, I wouldn't really want to face him next September. He obviously is familiar with our personnel and knows our defensive tendencies as well.
He isn't too happy he just got fired. Personal grudge.
What's he gonna do, bark the play calls with an extra edge of vehemance? I don't think "revenge playcalling" is a thing
No, but he might spend extra time this summer gameplanning for us. Al can be a crafty guy - some of his gameplans were very good (ND and Ohio this year come to mind).
And some were terrible (MSU and Nebraska come to mind).
"Crafty" people do not put up negative rushing yards in back to back games. Period.
I wasn't aware that Al recorded any rushing statistics last year
As offensive coordinator, it is his job to put the offense in the best position possible to gain yards and score points. It is also his job to help coach players to approach their full potential (which should be high, given our recruting classes).
Not only did our talented players not live up to their potential, but he did not do a great job putting them in positions to succeed, thus resulting in negative rushing yards.
I adamantly believe that there are better coordinators than Borges who would have done a beter job with this (and thus, you know, actually produced positive rushing yards).
I'd say all stats--most definitely including rushing stats--are what offensive coordinators are judged by---and those pesky wins and losses. How do you evaluate a coach? And are you really defending the Penn State and Nebraska game plans?
I've defended Penn State. It was an fine game plan that should have gotten us the win despite the awful ground game. Just knock one of 3 FG attempts and we win. We didn't struggle to move the ball or score despite the meme-worthy run game.
Nebraska was a stink-bomb of the stinkiest order.
The problem: On nearly every important carry at the end of the game, we handed the ball off to Fitz, which was a prospect that had almost zero chance of success.
Instead of running Gardner on the final three plays of our clock killing drive (you know, the guy who had ripped Penn State up all game), we slammed Fitz into the line three times and lost yards.
In the first overtime, we rushed twice with Fitz for almost nothing and then had Gardner "center" the ball for the field goal.
In the third overtime, on third down, we had Fitz slam into the line again.
Again, there was no indication that this was going to be successful. And while you are right, all we needed was a field goal on one of three occasions or a final defensive stop (which we got twice, in OT), it really felt like the playcalling went away from what you might call typical Hoke. It didn't really make sense to me that the guy who called for a centering of the ball (to attempt what wasn't at all a gimme: a 40-yard field goal on the road) was the same guy in the second half of the Ohio State game going for it on 4th down and calling 2-pt conversions to play for the win.
Id like to think he spent some extra time game planning for KSU. That didn't bear any fruit.
He also had a true freshman QB making his career debut in that game.
I'm not saying the guy's awesome, or that I'd take him over Nussmeier, but he was capable of delivering strong gameplans now and then.
No, but knowing our defensive personnel inside and out could be a thing. We're bringing back basically the same defense next year. Borges probably knows the strengths and weaknesses of our guys at a level that no other OC could pick up from film study. There's an advantage there. Him knowing Mattison's tendencies and Mattison knowing Borges's tendencies might cancel out, but I'd rather not have opposing coaches with such insane familiarity with our personnel.
A decided schematic advantage?
I laughed, but (as has been posted my some) one of Charlie Weis's problems was that he tried to install too many gameplans and plays; it worked fine his first two years with more experienced teams but really fell short his next couple of years with younger and less experienced teams.
For sure that would give him about 10 really solid plays to start the game.
He doesn't know Peppers first hand. That's enough for me.
I mean, we'd have the same edge. I have a feeling our defense (and Mattison) are pretty familiar with everything Borges likes to do.
All Mattison has to do is put 9 in the box 27 times.
Best comment of the day.
alternating QB is: Golson on running plays & Rees on passing plays.
Im pretty sure Rees is graduating.
Rees never graduates..He will be there
doesn't really seem like a Borges kinda QB.
But if Notre Dame's kicker can make a FG in OT, they might win. I don't wanna lose.
He would have no reason to get familiar with our defense while he was our OC.
Other than that he went up against it every day when we scrimmaged?
If they were scrimmaging 1 vs. 1, they certainly wouldn't waste time game planning for us. Plus, most of the scrimmages are against the scout teams running the oppositions defernse.
They do scrimmage 1 vs. 1 - all programs do. The idea that a guy would be here three years and still be unfamiliar with what his counterparts on the other side of the ball do is a bit implausible.
With a new OL almost and a mobile QB...maybe Kelly wants to make golson pay for screwing up this season.
I care way more about that one game against ND next year than I do how they do overall. And I have no doubt that Gorgeous would torch us. He always throws up 3-4 great games a year. The problem is he also throws up 3-4 stinkers, and you need to be consistent to win championships.
but in his first year here, the first legitimately good game he called was Minnesota, the fifth game of the season. The first 1st quarter touchdown we scored was against San Diego State, the 4th game of the season. Obviously, ND would have less of a schematic adjustment than we did transitioning from RR-Hoke, but it took him a while to get the offense going at all.
Does ND have an experienced offensive line?
It would be because people that know football understand that the blame was not totally on him.
I still believe the blame was more due to the oline. No one could game plan for that.
Of course it wasn't. But at some point he becomes accountable, in a larger sense, for offense going backwards two years in a row. Same thing happened at Auburn.
Sure, the line sucked, but what playcaller wouldn't look good with great players everywhere? It's about maximizing what you have, and we had enough to be better than we were. It's never an easy argument in a game like football, where so much is intertwined and blame is impossible to assign with any accuracy, but it is what it is.
Bottom line for this story is that whatever one thinks of him, we can all agree that he is by no means a consistentlygreat coordinator, and he's certainly one with more downside (sucking total shit) than upside (fielding an elite offense).
And since I hate ND, I hope they grab him, if mostly to enjoy this offseason while their fans spin it like crazy.
...Who did you want? Guy can coach and recruit, Al didn't recruit so I see this as an upgrade. And he didn't have Fuckall at UW so he can at least call a game.
Borges was fired because his offense failed. Schafer was fired because he couldn't run Casteel's 3-3-5.
Borges's 2013 offense finished the season ranked #42 in offensive FEI.
Shafer's 2008 defense finished the season ranked #44 in defensive FEI.
(Before anyone says anything, I'll grant that it was only Shafer's defense until the week before the Purdue game, and while I don't know how to find out, I'm willing to bet the ranking was better at that point.)
Is that all? RR was also held to 300 or fewer 11 times in his three seasons. From the talk around here, I'd have thought Borges must have doubled that number.
and RR got fired after three seasons as well, funnily enough.
...though I don't think failings on the offensive side of the ball were high on the list of reasons.
Then you obviously didn't watch Rich Rod's team every single time we played a decent defense. The myth that RR had a good offense while he was here just will not die, and it's annoying.
disagree with you, or else Denard wouldn't have won Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year and Big Ten MVP the same year Rodriguez got fired.
I challenge anyone that can decisively prove the 2010 offense was overrated to write a diary explaining why. And no, "because I said so" doesn't refute standard and advanced metrics.
But honestly, I'd say the offensive woes that he did have were a major deciding factor in his firing.
RR's first QB was Threet-Sheridan-DEATH. Borges' was Denard Robinson as a Junior.
RR had Schilling and R Freshman Molk in the OL. Borges had 2 time All American Lewan, Schofield, 5th yr Sr. Molk (who would win the Rimington), RS Jr.Omameh (who would be All Big whatever the next year) and 5th yr. Sr Huyge who had 16 prior starts.
They didn't exactly start from the same place.
But aren't those "excuses"?
(I'm trying to say that I think you missed my point.)
2008 - 8 games under 300
2009 - 3 games under 300
2010 - 0 games under 300
2011 - 3 games under 300
2012 - 4 games under 300
2013 - 5 games under 300
Obviously, it's not that the total under RR (11) roughly equals the number under Borges (12). The majority under RR came in his first year. Borges' number of games under 300 rose each year. The regression under Borges at Michigan is consistent with the regression that Borges has experienced at other stops.
That said, he seems like a good guy and I wish him well.
In Borges' third season, we had five games with below 300 yards of offense.
In RR's third season, we had zero.
all of the inner workings and what Borges could have done to help the OL. I do think it's poor form to trash him.
I still believe the blame was more due to the oline. No one could game plan for that.
Except for the game plans with this year's offensive line that produced two of the highest single-game yard totals in U-M history?
Those gameplans worked so well because the offense took risks that payed off when the players were able to execute. I don't think you can have the record breaking games without having some stinkers as well, unless your players are truly that talented and experienced (we have one out of two).
So yeah, Borges looks like a genius one week and an idiot the next, is his game planning that drastically different? Is that the best explanation we can come up with?
Don't get me wrong, I am glad Borges was let go and I am beyond thrilled about what Nuss said about being downhill, physical, and controlling the pace of the game to maximize their advantage. But the amount of emotion-driven Borges hate on this board can be pretty frustrating. Dude did some things that worked and some things that didn't. His tenure is over now. Let's move forward.
You really believe us losing the Nebraska game was due to youth on the OL? We had negative rushing yards to a defense with injuries and who was raanked in the bottom half in college football in total defense! At least msu had a great defense! We made Nebraska look like msu because they knew everything we were doing! That was the worst coached offense I have ever seen!
will try to hire Funk away.
With Kelly being so involved with the offense, I could see Borges being a good fit there.
Seems like an odd fit. Doesn't Kelly have a hand in play calling? Which is Borges' calling card (since we know it's not recruiting or development).
Play calling? I think Borges' calling card is scheme. He loves drawing up plays. He can be fairly innovative.
He and Kelly, by the sound of it, would be a great match. Al draws the plays; Kelly puts them to practice while Al coaches the QBs.
I wonder if it might be better for Borges to have a boss who's also an offensive guy. Kelly might be more likely to rein him in when his creativity gets the better of him. "That's really cool, Al, but it's getting a little too far from our base stuff, don't you think?"
Clearly Borges' problem the last two seasons is that his playcalling was too creative.
Read what we said, dude. We said his schemes are creative. Not his play calls.
I mean, the smugness of your post. Geez.
We either face an innovative, unstoppable attack that leaves us scratching our heads or an awkward, predictable scheme that has us chuckling with glee.
Kelly is a passing spread guy; why would he hire a west coast coach except to coach the QBs? Am I wrong in thinking that their offensive philosophies are fundamentally incompatible?
He might just want a guy with a good track record with QB's and high football IQ regardless of philosophy.
although for the first time, Kelly gave play-calling duties over to his OC Chuck Martin against Temple of September 3rd. I don't know if that continued last year. I was at the ND game in person so I have no idea who was calling plays. Does anyone remember?
N.B.: Chuck Martin is now head coach at Miami (Ohio).
Maybe Kelly wants to incorporate some WCO ideas into his offense?
Borges's strength is his understanding of that offense; he's also shown a willingness to blend it with spread concepts and he's innovative as a play designer. The hire would make sense to me, from that perspective.
He's also seen as a sort of QB guru. A lot of us on here would disagree with that assessment, but I think he did a great job with Gardner, who barely knew how to take a drop back when Borges got here. He was greener than grass, and he's become a hell of a QB.
Also, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for ND to hire Borges as a QB coach/OC just to get info on Michigan. His play calling duties might be scaled back with Kelly as the head man, but he could do wonders for their passing game, which is pretty damn vanilla. So, have him help the passing game, have him tutor Golson, and pump him for Michigan info.
I think I can safely say that this is where the word guru jumped the shark.
took more blame than he deserved.
It's hard, because an argument can always be made. If a team puts a terrible offense on the field, you can ALWAYS blame the players: by nature, the offense being bad means the players aren't playing well. If a team can't pass, you can always say "it's because the QB and WRs aren't good enough." What's impossible to truly know is if it's the OC holding them back, or if they just suck on their own.
At some point, decisions have to be made, and I think we made the right one.
If you want to say he was the fall guy I would not disagree with you. However, I think he had blame to share as well. Negative rushing yards and the offense looked lost at times. The players may have lost faith in the play calling. We don't know what happened behind the scenes, but I think it was time for Al to go.
But it seemed to me that he was either unwilling or incapable of making in-game adjustments. He proved this during the MSU, Nebraska, and PSU games in particular.
IMO, coaches at this level should be able to make in-game adjustments (with relative ease) and consistently obtain the maximum productivity from the talent they have. I don't think Borges was able to do either.
The oline was a disaster most of the season, and part of that was definitely not Al's fault. But I think every offense has a deficiency that has to be overcome. That's one of the "minigames" the coordinators have to deal with at this level. That said, I agree with the general sentiment in this thread and hope he does well for himself. So, I hope he doesn't go to ND, so that I can pull for him to be successful.
It's so nice that we can still have "FIRE BORGES!" arguments here. I don't know what the board would be like without them.
I feel Borges had a tough situation, but didn't do enough to make the best of it. The guy deserved to get fired, because, at the end of the day, you can't argue with results. He didn't get it done.
And it's especially nice when we can weave in a bit of "FIRE RR!" into the conversation.
AB is gone, and by all accounts, it appears his replacement is an upgrade. The same could be said of RR. Can't we agree to just let it go and move on?
I'm happy for Al, I don't think our offensive problems were completely his fault. I hope he's successful wherever he goes, unless he's playing Michigan. I think Mattison could contain his offense, unless he tries something new. Like not running the ball into a stacked box 27 times.
is Norv Turner. Considered one of the great offensive minds. Surprised Michigan did not go after him. With a new coach in Cleveland, Turner more than likely will be jobless.
However, Turner would not be a good fit at ND. Kelly runs that offensive.
Brian Kelly pretty much runs that offense anyway.
I don't think it's as bad as people think. I think Al would do a pretty good job running spread or manball looks with ND. They have alot of talent. That's never been an issue. Our offense look unstopabble when things were clicking. The problem was it looked absolutely atrocious when it wasn't.
Call it stubborn playcaling or maybe trying to ram a square peg in a round hole one too many times but I think with ND he will be able to call the plays and not have the same issues at ND.
Mattison himself did so.
Clearly, Brian Kelly watches absolutely zero college football games outside of the ones he coaches.
He watched Al torch his ass a couple of times.
Hopefully this upcoming season.
Borges is good play designer but terrible in game play caller. If Kelly is calling the plays it's a decent fit.
Yes, running option plays without anyone being optioned is genius level stuff.
Borges' entire offense lacked any sort of cohesiveness.
That's not entirely true. His passing game was not only effective, but fairly complex and still cohesive. Its just that Brian never picture paged the passing game, TV doesn't show route structure or development, and most fans don't even pretend to know passing concepts.
His run game was a muddled mess.
So the board is aware of a few of the other names that have been floated as Notre Dame's new OC...
Some of the other candidates, from what I understand, are the interim coordinator Mike Denbrock and even Buffalo Bulls head coach Jeff Quinn, who I believe is also part of the Kelly tree or was for a while.
EDIT: Good call. Confusing MAC teams with NFL teams is fun. See post below. Fixed it.
Buffalo Bulls coach Jeff Quinn.
Gorgeous Al will spend the whole summer planning for the Michigan game. He may stink it up the rest of the season, but he will look like a genius against Michigan.
Naw, he vanishes for big games. We all know that.
Not for the Notre Dame games... which means he'll actually be good...?
Borges tore up a lot of teams when he had more experienced players in 2011. That team didn't have anything close to his usual types of players. Notre Dame, even with graduation of the starters, has a more experienced team than the 2013 Michigan team. I think the people thinking this would be a joke and a easy game for the defense would be in for a surprise.
"Tore up a lot of teams" is a generous way of putting it. We scored under 20 against the two defenses with a pulse we saw.
We scored lots on ND and OSU, but that isn't saying much, given those defenses. After that, we (as usual) hung a shitload on teams like Minnesota, which isn't exactly something one puts on a resume.
I didn't talk about defenses and I also mentioned it was without his types of players.
That being said, I don't think he was the right person for the job last year and I am 100% behind the change. However,I don't think Borges is a total moron as you seem to believe. All I said was given the type of players that fit his system, which I believe Notre Dame has (at least more than he has had at Michigan), he could be dangerous.
Notre Dame runs primarily a passing spread. Ran quite a bit of pistol this year.
How would they have players for Borges' system? I'm not sure he has a system but if you want to be charitable it's the traditional West Coast Offense.
Damn. Reading this thread, you'd think firing Borges was a mistake.
Did he deserve ALL the blame? Of course not. But come on. He is NOT a good offensive coordinator. The more he installed his "system" the worse we got. Denard put up better offensive numbers than Gardner running his "system" did just by being shoelace and bailing his butt out with giant runs.
Hope he lands on his feet (and Notre Dame is a pretty good landing spot) but come on people. We're gonna be better off without him.
Thing is, we won't know whether it was a mistake until after this coming season. We know Nussmeier is a capable OC, so if he makes a lot of good things happen this coming season after losing Lewan and Schofield, it was obviously the right choice. If the offense still struggles at times while ND's does really well with Borges, we'll never know whether Borges was primarily at fault.
This. People have been crapping on Borges all year, but as soon as we fire him and other programs take a look, he's the greatest OC in history. It's the same thing that happened with RR, and it's ridiculous.
Yeah I don't get it either.
During the season if you thought Borges was smart, you were stupid.
Now that he's been fired, if you DON'T think he's smart, you are stupid.
People can look at a few individual games, but if you look at his whole body of work, I'm not sure where this is all coming from. Our offense, for the most part, was a disaster.
But hey, if all those games under 200 yards were good enough for some people, so be it.
Quite a few guys on here that know football were defending Borges all year. Youth, bad line, fans being mistaken on some game plans, etc
I don't miss him, and I'm excited about Nussmeier, but I suspect Nuss would be on the hot seat if he had to scheme behind last year's line.
Anyways, I think you're mistaken about the narrative. We didn't have up/down votes during the season. I think a lot more people were silently "pro-Borges" than the high number of "Fire Borges" posts would lead us to believe. Space Coyote almost quit the blog over a bunch of nasty comments, but now every time he posts, he gets at least 10 +1s. A lot of lurkers disagreed with you then and now, they just didn't comment as much then.
Not sure the number of "Pro-Borges" people is very high, but I'm sure there was a faction that certainly does/did exist. There was a lot more excitement about his firing than people second guessing, even if they are slowly coming out now.
Not really sure what their point is either. I suppose if Borges goes to ND and succeeds, there could be quite a bit of "I TOLD YOU SO" going on, but I think even if one thought he was a good coordinator, they had to see a change was needed.
Plus, we got Nuss, who, in my opinion, has just as good of a resume (better, really) and seems to be a better fit with Hoke's idea of his "Michigan offense". Additionally, he can recruit.
I wish Borges well, and I do not blame him for everything, but out of all the questionable things to debate when it comes to Michigan, I'm not sure how this is becoming one of the bigger ones. Dumping him for Nuss seems like a slam dunk move.
I agree on everything. I thought Borges an average coordinator. I stuck up for him a lot because I didn't believe that any coordinator could have success behind that line. But, like Coach Rod, the results weren't there. So he's gone. I'm of the same opinion on Funk. He's not a bad coach, and he was handcuffed by having to play freshmen, but the results probably merit a firing.
I don't think anyone is second guessing his firing. There is a difference between realizing his firing was justifiable and thinking he is terrible. Its a lot like Coach Rod; I don't think he would have ever worked out at Michigan, but I was 100% certain he'd do well elsewhere.
So, I won't miss Gorgeous Borges, but I don't see why a lot of people still think he was the biggest problem on the 2013 team. And I could see him doing fine at Notre Dame, which is what this thread is about. You kinda turned it into a "Didn't we agree Borges sucks?" thing. Some of us don't think he sucks. I am happy that all of us think Nuss is better, though.
but we all know that if Borges ended up there somehow he'd be successful. We thought GERG would be a disaster at Texas and he did well. You just know we wouldn't get to laugh about this because Borges would somehow put 50 on us with Golson. Don't listen to reasoning, your gut tells you it will be so
Good god. Knowning how much the Sports Gods have frowned on me my entire life, I expect Borges to put together the best game plan of his career and end up ruthlessley using a spread attack to evicerate the D.
Your entire life? How old are you?
I'll never understand how this happens. Al's Indiana team scored more than twenty points two times in 2003 before Tuberville hired him. I don't get it.
It seems like Hoke's plan worked. Al isn't recognized as "damaged goods" meaning the failures aren't totally pinned on him and nobody would want him to lead their offense in the future.
Borges seems like he might be in the end of his career just viewing what I perceive as his age. Whereas Nuss is probably in the prime of his career trying to elevate himself to a HC level. No doubt that Borges is a journeyman coordinator and intelligent. He seemed to lack a little fire and I didn't find his personality to be one of a strong leader. That said, I only observed the press conferences and never went to a practice and I'm extrapolating to fill the void.
Were Al to be hired at ND it would be interesting to say the least. It would be a super interesting matchup of Mattison and Borges who had a couple of years to face each other in practice and now get to line it up on TV. After that I wish them as much success as they can get until Kelly has a venous blowout.
This cheered me up. Good luck to ND and Al.
This news and the Nussmeier hire (who until he was named was not bandied about by anybody on the boards) show that the fans only know so much about what is occuring inside any complex organization. Unless Brian and Heiko start going to the American Football Coaches annual convention and any regional meetings on a regularly basis it will be hard to really know who knows who and how well and what types of bonds and relationships they have.
Good luck to Al Borges.
Doesn't ND use bubble screens?
Not any more
Of course, naturally, he will put together a OSU-esque game plan against us, even if he fouls it up against the rest of the competition.
isn't kelly really the offensive guy there? like RR was here?
Why do most of the comments imply Borges has already been hired? He's likely just being floated by his agent. If not, it's a weird marriage between him and Kelly to say the least.
I actually think alot of Al's problem was that we had a numerous amount of different "looks" for plays but we had no go-to bread and butter plays. This becomes especially worrying when you have basically a rookie o-line who really just needs to develop for the handful of staple plays to be successful rather than 50 different looks that you are trying to practice and learn such as a half back pass from vincent smith( i know it wasn't this year) or some other wild transition of single reverse to double reverse next play. It sounds like Nussmeier will bring those bread and butter plays that we can get solidify before attempting the more finesse/tricky plays.
According to Brian, "Michigan's base play this year was a tackle for loss."
is a football genius.
I predict that Borges will be hired by another team quickly, do reasonably well there but not great, and as soon as he has even minor success, people here will shit their pants and claim that we made a mistake firing him.
Also, if Brian Kelly decides to hire Al Borges, I will eat my shoe, tape it, and post it on here. There is no way that ever happens.
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But this does not strike me as a Kelly-type hire. He seems to go for younger coordinators; Domers think this demonstrates his insecurity. Also, FWIW, I think next year is going to be a bit of a challenge offensively for the Domers. Breaking in Golson (who likely has higher upside than Rees), and losing some skill players to the draft (Atkinson/Daniels/Niklas).
Atkinson was buried on the depth chart, no loss there. Daniels isn't gone to the draft, he will be back for the fall. The killer is Niklas. Great blocking TE and was just coming into his own as a pass catching threat.
Next years offense will finally get some of the roadblocks removed (Rees etc) and Kelly can start using the full playbook.
With someone talking on his headphones ?
We can't change the past. I believe, whether Al was a good coordinator or not, he was not the right person to lead our offense. One point I really did not care for with Al was when things started to go bad, he would always blame it on our players not executing the plays correctly. I think that kind of talk just pushes our players down more when what they really needed was motivation and proper coaching.
Those most anxious to fire Borges will find a way to be furious with Brandon or Hoke if he has success elsewhere.
Every unemployed OC is a "candidate" according to their agent.
it's coming from a list of scheduled coordinator interviews posted at ND pay sites. It doesn't seem to be a leak from Borges.
It's actually stupid for ND not to interview Borges (even if they have no intention of hiring him). Get his ideas about what he would do with the offense, how he would attack Michigan's defense, etc. He might give them a few good ideas.
He is saying interview him not hire him. It is just a way to get a different view.
Borges game planned against Michigan's D every day in practice. Bring him in for an interview, ask him what he would do with the offense, how he would attack Michigan's defense or any other common opponent. He can refuse to answer or he can lay it all out. Borges gives a bunch of good tips for a couple of hours and ND says that he was in their top 4 but they decided to hire someone else and all of a sudden Borges doesn't look so bad when another school hires him. An interview would be mutually beneficial to both parties even if they both know he won't get the job.
Well lets really be honest for a second. Its not like ND has had issues scoring on UM. Aside from the 2012 win (13-6) you guys just out scored us. I think the average was like 30ppg.
he would be a better candidate.
That said, Borges knows the WCO and its passing tree in his sleep, and blending a spread offense with those pass routes should be straightforward and effective.
We taught Notre Dame how to play back in the day...
Now we're going to teach them how not to play?
The problem with ND and their offense is they have been all over the place as far as play callers and play calling scenarios the past few seasons.
Kelly called plays. Then someone else did briefly, only to have Kelly do it again. Then Kelly gave it up but still wants to call plays in the redzone. Supposedly their O-line coach calls run plays and their OC calls the passes. As of now I think Kelly still has the final say in the redzone.
This all comes across to me as extremely confusing. Personally I would not really want to be an OC in a system like this unless I had more say over what plays are actually called.
He will only be partly responsible for the ND split personality offense. Can't wait for the epic first "you mad, bro?" mercury-red Kelly explosion aimed at Al. Pax tibi, Coach Borges.
Time to start a new thread.
Perfect fall guy...
I'll say it 'til the day I die, Brandon should have breached right after UTL2. We can handle the economic blowback. I mean, we charge for school visits to the Big House now. Dolla, dolla billz!
I would love this, but since I'm not and wish Al nothing but the best I hope this is false.
Good luck to Al, but hopefully it isn't in South Bend. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Imagine coaching with that purple faced leprechaun. what a nightmare that would be. You can do better Al.
Yes please! I can't wait to see Borges drive that offense off of a cliff. Golson won't be bailing him out like Denard did.
No personal bitterness towards Gorgeous - it just didn't work for any number of reasons. Figuring out what works is the coach's main responsibility and it didn't pan out in A2 for him. Good luck and no animus. But...if couldn't correct course with the guys we had, it wouldn't bode well for a qb that will have to be re-coached up just to continue on the curve he had in his previous offense before suspension.
Also, I want everything, I mean everything, to fail at Notre Dame.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Kelly run a spread? When was the last time Kelly hired a pro-style OC?