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Michigan 31 - Notre Dame 28
Notre Dame 77 - Michigan State 3
Those seem like very logical predictions by you :-)
This would be both factually and grammatically appropriate.
I think the first score is accurate....but I think you're giving State too much credit!
shut Michael Floyd down, I don't see another standout weapon other than maybe Cierre Wood
Don't they have that other kid, Riddick maybe, who is kind of an all purpose-threat?
I feel like I have been hearing some hype about him. Still I can't say I am terrified of anyone except Floyd because he has the potential to go Manningham on us.
but not that good that he provides the same threat that Tate and Floyd or Floyd and Rudolph provided. If we just double cover Floyd the whole game and put pressure on the QB, then we'll be fine. We have to remember our pass D will be a hell of a lot better this year. This year we won't be giving receivers 15 yard cushions on 3rd and 3.
I think Riddick is mostly known for his chronicles.
They have a solid TE who can stretch the field in Eifert. Saw that he was on rivals' list of the top 10 TEs going into the year.
in their easier games last year, if I'm correct. He was nothing special, or above average, in any of the major games. He's decent but not great.
Do Rees and Crist bring basically the same skillset to the table? I don't remember hearing about either one of them being a really good runner (not that they need to be in Kelly's offense, just wondering).
Not really. Neither is a great runner, but Rees barely runs at all. Crist used to be a solid runner, but not sure how that will look after his second knee surgery. Kelly will have him run a few times per game this year though, he has to in Kelly's offense. Rees might be a bit more accurate with the short throws. Crist has a better arm.
I would expect Crist to be a slightly more mobile option than Rees, even post surgery.
Michael Floyd gets another DUI...
he still plays even if his parole officer is suddenly named as the "team warden".
Something, something, something, glass houses and such
Yah because being "redshirted" means you are suspended from all team activities. Stonum is still allowed to participate with the team under this "suspension". Its like double secret probation.
ND 31 UM 10.
The Michigan game to me is 50-50
and I would also agree that ND beats State this year.
ND unfort should have a good season
I really am terrified of the ND game this year, but the night time home environment will certainly make things interesting. We were lucky to come out with the win last year (concussion anyone?) when they were in their first year with the new system on both offense and defense.
I'm optimistic about the game in general (I think ND will be very slightly favored and that sounds right to me) but also remember that they had basically Iowa 2009 and UConn 2010 as far as gameday footage of Denard. I think it was hard even for a guy like Kelly to truly understand how big of a threat he was going into that game.
For whatever reason it scares me, but than again when you play Jesus' team there's always reason to be frightened, I suppose. Sometimes, I have to pinch myself to remember we won the past 2 years when we definitely had a roster that would have suggested otherwise. I am scared that this could be ND's year and they sweep both Michigan schools. I think the MSU game is an easier W for them only based on the fact that it is a home game for ND, if it was at MSU I'd say for sure a win for Sparty.
56-0 Michigan over Notre Dame!
0-0 tie between Michigan State and Notre Dame!
Hopefully M break their hearts again, then you guys get Wolverine sloppy seconds since 2002 in a trap game for ND.
Just MHO opinion, sorry for the hate spewing from my comment, always nice having rival posters here(non trolls).
I do think UM has an advantage, perhaps one I am overestimating, in terms of preparing for the ND game. If you are ND, a team that gave up 500+ yards to one dude on your home field last year, in his 2nd career start; a guy who one would presume would improve in the off-season, who now has a new set of plays to work from (while not completely disposing of what he ran last year)...how do you gameplan? What film do you look at? Last year's UM game? SDSU game film?
Floyd will get his touches and do some damage and ND will put up points. I love our o-line and think they will eat up clock much more efficiently than last year, which will likely be the best D you can throw at Floyd. I like the 31-28 prediction someone threw out there above, with Michigan winning.
I have no idea on the ND/MSU contest; how significant are the questions on the o-line for MSU? How easily can Jones and the other departing LB (name is escaping me) be replaced? While I greatly dislike both squads, I do think I will be rooting hard for msu as my hate for nd is more deeply seeded.
Strangely enough, my rooting interests in the ND-MSU game change depending on what happens in our game.
If we beat ND, then I kind of want them to beat Sparty. Because then two of our rivals have an early loss, and it looks good for our chances against MSU.
If we lose to ND, then I want Sparty to win that game as much as it pains me. My reason being that we will still have a crack at knocking MSU off later in the season. But if ND wins both those games, they will be on the fast-track to a BCS game. Which makes me sick.
ND will be most improved in defence this year, so they might not be that afraid. That said I would say ND has the overall edge if not for intangebles. ND grabs defeat from the jaws of victory, MICH 24-21!
With the game in the Big House this year and the atmosphere that is going to be surrounding the game I think the edge has to go to Blue. 31-21 Good Guys!
I think we take ND in another tight game only because of the home/night atmosphere. 27-26 with a FG!?!? to win. ND takes MSU only because ND is at home on this one.
I severely hope we do not need a FG to win.
However, seeing a winning FG kick this early on National TV etc. would be tremendous.
I would love to see Hoke play Lloyd ball against WMU, get ND to prep for that type of game against Michigan, and then bust out a bunch of QB draws and such aginst ND and catch them off guard.
I think this will happen. We don't need much practice zone blocking for a Denard draw/iso. We need practice gap blocking MANBALL and taking 5 step drops. Western will be more like a vanilla scrimmage.
Their schedule is set up beautifully.
I think both Michigan and MSU can take them, but I think you're right to have an ND lean in those games. They get USC at home and Stanford on the road.
Poop, they *could* go undefeated... I'd put my O/U at 9. Then we get the whole OMG 2 yrs is all you need see: Tressel,Meyer, Saban, KELLY zOMG!!!111!one!!
[commence wanking motion...]
EDIT: Oh yeah, to hell with Notre Dame.
The thought of listening to ND fans if they have a great season this year sounds absolutely terrible.
I'm not expecting them to only win 6 games or something. But I just want them to lose 2-3 so they stay out of the BCS. Because thats where their expectations are this year, and to underacheive (if only slightly) might bring them back to earth for the 15th time this decade.
What drives me crazy is that their fans talk about the game against us like they KNOW they are going to blow us out. Not just win, but win big. That's crazy to me. They lost to us the past 2 years, have been destroyed by us in 3 other years in the past 8, and they are really that confident that they can come into our house with that atmosphere and embarrass us?
I guess its possible, but I just don't understand their arrogance. To me, that would be like Michigan fans guaranteeing a blow out over Sparty this year. Sure its possible, but its certainly not likely, especially on the road.
ND fans baffle the mind sometimes...
It's not like they'll win. They'll get blown out by a clearly better team and complain about the refs.
1) I'm an ND fan and this game worries me. It worries most of the ND fans I know. We know that going into your stadium for a night game will not be easy. Yes, I think we have certain advantages, and it won't surprise me if we're favored, but Michigan definitely has some things working in their favor too. I'm not at all overconfident about this one.
2) Not sure where some people are getting the "ND has an easy schedule" idea (like the poster above). Probably no elite (top 5) teams on the schedule, but no real gimmes either. I think any pre-season strength of schedule ranking you want to look at will back me up here.
4 gimme games, in my opinion. Purdue, Air Force, Wake Forest, and Maryland. You have a 95-5 odd of winning that game. Navy should be a gimme, but you've lost to them the past two years so I give you a 80-20 chance of winning that game. The teams you play that are decent but not enough to be a real challenge are Boston College and Pitt. I give you 70-30 odds of winning those games. USF could give you a real challenge, 60-40 odds. Michigan and MSU are both around 50-50 odds, in my opinion. USC is a loss with 40-60 odds. And Stanford is a loss with 15-85 odds.
Can't I dream? Seriously, what I was driving at was that not only are MSU and OSU more important games than ND, but so are N'western, Minnesota, Purdue etc.
I don't have a great feeling about the ND game this year. It's still gonna be early in our system transtions, and we can't count on their starting QB and best WR being injured. But then again, that won't know what they're facing, much like last year when Kelly publicly said our QB was basically just a running back. That turned out well for him. Also, we won't have an LB playing as the FS position who takes horrible angles to the ball that should be INTs and end up TDs. So I just don't know. Mostly I have a hard time seeing us winning 3 in a row against ND. When was the last time that's happened?
Michigan had eight consecutive wins from 1887-1908 including two days in a row in '88, other than that nobody has gotten above two.
This year, I think ND will be the best team Michigan plays.
OSU will be down and leader-less.
Nebraska will struggle in a conference much tougher than the Longhorn Conference.
MSU's biggest accomplishment is beating Wisco last year. One good game. They beat medicore teams and the rest of the good teams they played smoked them.
ND, on the other hand, really improved throughout last year and showed that their defensive coaching is at a high level. Combine that with a second year in their new offense and a Head Coach who knows how to lead colege kids and, importantly tons of 4/5 star talent....and they will finish in the top 15 in my opinion.
Really, I have watched ND for years and their defense was the best it had looked in a LONG time and they did not wilt toward the end of the year, they got stronger, which is rare. They are the real deal.
UM loses in AA (the atmosphere makes it closer than it should be) and State loses by double digits in South Bend.
Agreed, watched ND down the stretch last year and they really overpowered USC and miami at the line of scrimmage, held both of those teams to less than 100 yds rushing.
Just looked at their depth chart and this might not be a good game to try to much power running - they go 301-285-300 on the D line and their 4 LB's average 250.
Will be a tough matchup for the offense early in the season, a lot could depend on how much of the playbook they can handle.
And those weights across the line don't include the guy ND fans are most excited about- Louis Nix and his 330 lbs. He might not start right away, but he'll get a lot of playing time this year (rotating with Cwynar (your 285)). ND fans think this should be our best defense in a long time.
I am worried about what some posters have pointed out- not knowing exactly what Michigan is going to throw at us with your new offense. The first game won't tell ND much, unfortunately. I think Michigan will have a nice advantage there.
I just want to point out that ND was a horribly easy but dropped TD catch away from losing to USC. Despite their overpowering of them.
with this prediction.
It truly pains me to predict that Michigan loses to ND but i have to be honest with myself. They will be much better on offense in the second year and our defense is still....well......our defense.
We will not learn much about the defense in the first game and we will be playing much better talent in ND. I think we can keep it close from an offensive stand-point, but i just dont see us beating them.
I also think they totally dis-mantle MSU.
***This is a reply to petrklimas prediction.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think ND has enough to beat Michigan this year. Since I also think Michigan is better than Sparty, they should handle Sparty easily, too. I think ND takes advantage of a perfectly-conceived schedule to make it to the title game.
I also think ND will get pummelled by whoever they play in the title game. I'm guessing Alabama reaps the benefits of overrecruiting to win it all again this year.
to beat us the past 2 years too, but they didn't. They had enough to beat Navy, but they didn't. They had enough to beat MSU too, but they didn't. etc. You get what I'm saying. ND is being vastly overrated by everyone, in my opinion. I think they're going to get challenged against USF, and win by less than 10. We'll win the UTL game. MSU is 50-50, in my opinion. They'll easily beat PItt, Purdue, and Air Force. A loss to USC. Wins against Navy, Wake Forest, Maryland, and Boston College. And then a loss to finish out the regular season against Stanford. They go 9-3 at best, 8-4 at worst.
A smug sense of superiority incongruous with recent results. Also, complaints about the refs.
EDIT: sorry, forgot a Sparty wrote the OP. Translated: "They think they're good even when they suck, brah."
(I kid because I care. And because I never get to use "brah" in a sentence around here.)
if the offence is clicking and working as designed I think we have a solid chance. if not then well I think we revert back to spread and get beat down since there is just to much film from last year for them not to be ready for that, and without RR I don't think Borges understands spread enough to keep teams on tere toes.
I am actually with the OP on this one, I think ND will beat both teams this year. I do think they will be good games, but it may be a good year for ND.
ND 24 UM 23, Michigan makes 2 FG's but misses a game winning try in the last couple of mins.
ND 31 MSU 28, MSU takes early lead but can't seal the game in the 4th quarter.
I have picked us to lose to nd for the past 3 yrs. luckily enough I have been wrong twice. I again think we lose this year and in another close. I believe that we certainly have a chance but nd is a good team and I am not sure we will be there at game 2.
Notre Dame is starting to feel "owned" by Michigan. As is the case in the last 2 years, ND should beat Michigan. However, through the power of "ownership," Michigan prevails in knock down drag out affair 34-30.
As for MSU, trouble for the Spartans. You have one coming for your shenanigans last year. Michigan State's running game stalls, ND gets all the bounces. Irish win going away 31-13. (You honestly think you can pull a fake field go to win in overtime on Touchdown Jesus with no retribution? Not going to happen).
Weteren Michigan- Show nothing O, Base 4-3 under D with no blitzing, shuts it down in the 3ed.
ND- Unleash the fury.
South Florida: comming off an 8-5 season(also beat Miami in south Beach) and seconed year with Skip Holtz. (QB returning plus 6 on D). Pro style and both UM/MSU can get some tape on ND due to they can't hold back .*crossing fingers*
UM: ND gets thrown into a woodchipper in AA.
Youngstown State: the "tragic hero game" MSU shuts it down in the 2ed showing nothing.
FIU: Maybe you sell out EL unlike the shitshow at Ford Field last year. Shuts it down in the 3ed.
ND: MSU is real rested and gets thier first punch in the mouth, as ND has played a Big East/B1G team... score unkown.
EDIT: spelling is overrated.
I think ND will beat both teams in close games. Brian Kelly has a great track record in his second year and ND finished the season with 5 straight wins including @USC and a bowl win over Miami. Michigan is switching systems and MSU loses a lot of starters, especially on the OL.
If Michigan beats ND, it's because the offensive system is clicking way more than it should be in the second game. If MSU beats ND, it's because their OL stepped up.
I think what scares me about the Notre Dame game and maybe most of you is how the end of the season played out for both teams. I know it is easy to buy into the new management and hype going into this year, but this is the team that also got blown out the last three games of last year. On the other hand, Notre Dame ended several of their long standing losing streaks in beating USC and then winning their bowl game. Granted those teams are not stellar but it goes to show that this isn't the same Notre Dame team we are use to playing. Obviously, a year can make a huge difference but until I see Michigan play and prove my doubts wrong, I have to give the edge to Notre Dame based on the taste left in my mouth from last year.
So I am saying ND 31 - UM 21
And as far as ND-MSU, I think ND has the edge barring another unforseen trick play that Dantonio pulls out of his ass...
I've said this in some other posts, but if ND had played Michigan's last four games last year, I bet they would have gone 1-3 (same as us) of 2-2 at best.
@ Purdue = W
Wisconsin = L
OSU = L
Miss. State = probably an L but this could be their other W
On the other hand, I'm sure Michigan would not have gone 4-0 with ND schedule, but they would have had a good chance at 2-2 or 3-1 I think.
Needless to say, I am not THAT impressed with the end of ND's season last year.
Truthfully, this will be a tough game for Michigan to win. It's possible, but again, like last year, i don't think it's doom and gloom if we don't win. Why? Because it's non-Conference. Michigan State, and Ohio State are bigger games...Why? Because we need to break the cycle, and we also need B1G wins. In fact, Beating NW is more important right now than beating ND. If we can somehow scrap our way into the B1G title game, even losing to ND, I'd be happier than I've been since 2006.
In other words, I won't be discouraged or disappointed if we lose... the season won't be lost by any stretch. It will stink that my relatives will likely commence the smack talk, but whatever, we've got bigger fish to fry.
Still suffers from the Curse of Ron Powlus.
Ever since people thought Powlus was going to lead the Domers to glory (but ended up failing spectacularly) every hyped-up QB ND trots out hasn't really lived up to expectations. Whether it was Quinn, Jimmy, even Carlyle Holiday, Notre Dame has been average, no matter the preseason hype. (Quinn did win in his last two years, but not enough for Domers' tastes.)
Crist was a 5-star, so he's right in that mold of a potential underachiever. Rees - he might be good, but we'll see. Unless there is marked dramatic improvement by either guy, the Irish are probably heading to another 3-5 loss season.
I like how many ND fans say that ND beating USC was a great win because USC is a strong program but that Michigan beating ND was a fluke because their QB was injured.
I think I counted about 20 dropped balls by USC WR's in the ND/USC game last year. Not to mention Matt Barkley sitting on the sidelines while *Mitch Mustain* was calling the plays. If Barkley was in, I have no doubt he would have torched the ND defense.
Everyone is judging the ND team on their last 4/5 games... but who did they beat in 2010? They beat Army (a MAC level team that narrowly beat Eastern Michigan, team never passed the ball), Utah (a week after they got demolished by TCU), USC (without Barkley/receivers catching passes), Western Michigan, Pittsburgh (hey, Michigan beat the Big East champions), Boston College, Purdue (lower tier B1G team), and Miami (the only good win on their schedule).
Still, they have talent. They are overhyped, but they do have the players to have a strong 9 win season this year. One of those wins could be Michigan, but I'm thinking we pull it out 21-17. I'm going to cite the Big Chill as some backup because Mich. St. was a fairly good hockey team in 2010 and Michigan was faltering a bit but the atmosphere surrounding that special event rendered Mich. St. helpless as they got pummeled 5-0. I think something similar will happen to ND.
Mich. State will beat ND this year I think as well.
Miami was the only good win on their schedule? That Miami team lost 6 games, one of which was to an 8 loss Virginia team. They also lost at home to South Florida.
I wouldn't consider that a good win by any means. I watched the first half of the Sun Bowl. Miami never showed up. Jacory Harris threw 3 interceptions in the first quarter.
not being the only person who realizes that. I'm tired of ND fans saying that they were so good last year, and they'll be so good this year. Every time I hear a ND fan say that, I want to strangle them. I want to give a good beat down to them. I want every team on their schedule to smack them around. I really, really hate ND.
...goes something like this:
Kelly & Krew Krazed as Mattison's Michigan Maulers Mystify.
I never predict scores. But I'm well aware of the history factor when we play ND. Flukey plays will end up happening that will haunt you for many, many years. Giving up a turnover or a big play on defense will always happen at the worst possible time (like giving up that 99 yard TD pass with less than 2 minutes in the game last year.)
You can better prepare yourself mentally for this game if you remind yourself that these things will happen. Don't let the 03, 06 and 07 games fool you. This game comes down to the final minute alot. We had top 5 teams in the 90's that had to battle for their lives against Irish squads that weren't even good enough to make a bowl game.
Very few Michigan fans I have talked to like our chances in this game. Obviously I really, really, REALLY hope they're wrong.
Michigan 27 Notre Dame 14
MSU 31 Notre Dame 7
Prediction: I'm going to be pissed if I spend all this money on a ticket and a flight only to see Michigan lose. (Not too mad though - its going to be an awesome spectacle!)
Just had a blurb from a Press Conference with that cocksucke..I mean Brian Kelly and he named Crist as the season starter. Maybe Kelly uses better judgment on throwing out a QB who can't see out of both eyes this year.
Michigan 31 ND 28
ND 33 MSU 31
ND beats both teams, IMO.
Always the optimist, I believe both our offense and our defense will be much improved from last year. Even by the second game, I believe our offense will be in gear with a primary back who is gaining big yardage (my hope is that it is either Toussaint or Rawls) and a Denard doing much better with the WCO than many seem to be willing to believe. Denard will have another big day, and so will our back. The offense will be better than last year against ND. Our defense will throw a shutout, or close to it. For the last three years we have had decent players totally uncoached on defense (plus some crippling injuries in our thinnest positions, like Woolfolk being out all year last year), but this year we have better, more experienced players with the best defensive coaching we have had in over ten years. I think our defense will be a top 40 defense and maybe even a top 25 defense, because of Mattison, Hoke and the other defensive coaches. So, all in all, I see us tattooing ND, with us scoring from 24 to 35 points and holding ND to no more than 10. As for MSU-ND, I hope MSU wins only because I despise ND even more than MSU.
It makes sense for Michigan to try and surprise ND by jumping on them early with some trickery/unique playcalling. I think it will work to some extent, with Michigan out to a 10 point lead at halftime. ND will claw back to tie early on in the fourth quarter, but Denard will take over the game and march down the field to score. 27-20 M.
With MSU down in South Bend, things get pretty murky for them. I'm still thoroughly convinced a major "Sparty no!" event is going to come crashing down on them at some point this upcoming season, and the South Bend crowd won't back down. I see ND jumping out to a 14-0 lead early and eventually winning 21-17 due to a key MSU turnover on a play in the endzone.
I predict Crist will be the starter.
Notre Dame will probably be one of the toughest teams we face this season. They should be damn good. I think we can pull out a small victory simply due to the ridiculous home field advantage that game will provide.
Michigan 38 - Notre Dame 34
I think Notre Dame will be able to beat MSU this year.
Notre Dame 38 - MSU 24
pick ND over Michigan in any year, period. Obviously ND has been over rated quite often. It is a rivalry game, where, like other posters have mentioned, strange shit happens and haunts either team's memory. I like UM at night, at home, with a renewed vigor and pride, and they will beat ND in a close one. I was appalled that Kelly allowed Crist to play at all against UM after his injury last year. I lost alot of respect for him over that. This is going to be an exciting Michigan team, and I am juiced up for the opener. GO BLUE!