Boise St wins their 1st game and is now a front runner for the NC game

Boise State is the real argument for a playoff system with, say, 16 teams using the top 8 bowls.

I cannot be convinced that Boise State, who play in the eighth or ninth (depending on how you feel about CUSA) best conference are somehow qualified for National Championship consideration by beating an over rated Va Tech team.

Common sense tells you that team loses 3 games in the Big 10 and the SEC and at least two in the PAC 10.

If anything should enable a playoff it's this sort of BS.

That's why they located themselves in Idaho, purposefully gave themselves no football tradition to speak of, and no booster money.  They don't want to be in a good conference.  They did it on purpose! It's all a master plan to annoy big-time schools and their fan bases.

Yet whenever they do play the big boys they almost always get it done.

Oklahoma a few years ago, Oregon last year, Va. Tech now, I'm sure there are others but those are just 3 off the top of my head.

They belong in the discussion.  To say they don't is to ignore what they've actually done on the field.  

It's week 1.  There's tons of football left to be played, so, to say they belong in he discussion after week 1 isn't saying a whole lot, but they did make a statement tonight.  

That the big time time teams don't want to play them anymore?  They should be applauded for seeking out big time games with teams that are expected to compete at the top each year.  They play a tougher non-conference schedule than just about any auto bid teams.  When the whole conference shake up was happening, I was hopeful that the PAC10 would bring them into the fold but that didn't happen.  So, they took the next best option and joined the mountain west.  What else are they suppose to do?  They continue to beat the big guys year after year whether it be at the beginning of the season or in a bowl game.  They deserve to be respected and deserve to be in the discussion as one ot the best teams in the country.  Period. 

if there are two undefeated teams for major conferences. IMHO, they dont deserve a bid over a one loss major conference team.

Boise St. is No. 3 in both polls.  They only have to wait for 'Bama and/or Ohio St. to lose.

Considering their track record, and beating VT, and assuming they beat Oreg. St, I don't think anyone (or any computer) would keep them at No. 3 and have them leap-frogged by an "established" team.  That would have happened 2, 3, 4 years ago... but not this year.  They are media darlings and America's "Darkhorse".

I personally hope they lose to Oreg. State so this debate can be settled soon.  And I hope TCU gets beat by BYU and/or Utah.  Navy lost, so at least S.I.'s "BCS Buster" pick is out of the picture.

and won't lose again.....since they don't play anybody else....or I forgot OREGON ST....they are a frontrunner for sure, not like they'll drop in the ratings a whole lot after they win the rest of their games.

Its stupid, but there you have it.

It's all coming to fruition...

I'm scared.

Oh great.....fuckingbrianscoming 

Before the game today I blasted them as scheduling too many cupcakes

Now that BSU has won today I can see they are a pretty good team in a crap conference.

If they don't trip up they are pretty much going to the national title game, considering OSU probably won't go undefeated (Wisconsin, Iowa)

Prove themselves every year by winning one game while every other contender has to win four or five difficult games to prove themselves? OK. 

The reason you keep hearing people say that they would have less success with a tougher schedule is because it's true.  Hating it won't change the fact that they play 2 decent teams and a whole bunch of crapolla teams.  Until they play a tougher schedule the truth will keep catching up with them.

I mean they just beat a VT team that beat my Nebraska team 2 years straight. They're a good team. No problem there.

But what other team would instantly be the NC game  frontrunner after winning ONE GAME? Michigan? OSU? Only a team with a crappy schedule where you know they're pretty much certain to run the table now. That's BS and I dont mean Boise State.

Peterson is doing some incredible coaching with sub par talent and beating national powers. 

This is an argument for Peterson being a good coach, not for BSU being an elite team. I mean, look at Mount Union: Larry Kehres is a fantastic coach. Imagine what he could do with talent like Texas or Oklahoma. Does this mean we should rank Mount Union #1 in the BCS? Fuck no. So why should the same argument work for BSU? Peterson is a great coach. BSU plays 1-2 football games per year, and then plays a shamefully terrible schedule the rest of the time. If any major program played that schedule, there would be congressional hearings over it. Yet they get a free pass? Forget that. Play the same schedule as everyone else (or at least  something comparable), or shut up. It's that simple.