From user umfan323. Title says it all, though I would love a compare and contrast paper on OSU and BSU. Boise's violations weren't willful, but were systemic. OSU willfully committed violations, but seem to be only in one sport.
If they can't keep them down on the field, they have other ways....
This stinks of the NCAA doing the BCS a favor by making sure Boise will not be crashing the National Championship game party any time soon.
Well, teams with blue fields should know their place...
if offensive playing surfaces are the standard for NCAA hammering, Oregon had better get the Vaseline ready.
That actually looks kind of cool. Looks like you are standing in a field surrounded by pine (or spruce) trees.
until I saw a game broadcast. Maybe it's just me, but it started to hurt my eyes after a while.
I seem to remember there being horrific glare off the court as you can already sort of see in that picture above. i thought the idea was good though
I thought it looks like everyone in the first 3 rows projectile vomitted on the court, but, you could see it that way too, I guess.
I'm disappointed in you, mikoyan.
On the side, I'm a nature boy at heart....I mean you've seen enough of my blog. Although I prefer real nature to some sort of contrived nature.
I'm pretty sure that the NCAA would like the BCS to fail so that a tournament can be setup because the NCAA owns the rights to a tournament if it goes that direction.
I'll put my hat back on. The NCAA still sucks.
Letter of Intent Crap?
lack of institutional control.
what the Akron State Bobcats deserve but won't get
Two coaches (non-football) with show clauses as well?
is crap. They need to close the feedback loop to real-time for violators.
Investigating and then punishing schools AFTER the guilty have moved on and collected years of coaching salaries, bowl wins and pro contracts - doesn't work.
I propose that the NCAA have NCAA employees on campus as the compliance officers. Catch them in the act. Check pracitce logs, equipment inventories and student-athlete bank accounts, cars and apartments real time ever week. Not 9-18 months later.
Like the stories from communist countries about businesses needing to pay a "party official" to conduct oversight, except obviously the NCAA and schools, not a nail factory in rural Russia. Just convert compliance departments to NCAA satellite enforcement offices, have the schools pay the NCAA and the NCAA pay the employees. You'd need a few more employees, but not a new army of them.
pay UL inspectors to come inspect our equipment before it is shipped - not 9 months after it was installed. To avoid the "party official" problem you allow independant auditors like Moodys and S&P. - oh - wait...
Isn't the point of a school having a compliance office so that the NCAA doesn't have to do that sort of thing?
the football team doesn't appear to be affected at all.
Boise State will now have its football scholarships reduced from 85 to 82 for the 2011-12, 2012-13 and 2013-14 academic years. In addition, Boise State also will have only nine contact practices in the spring, instead of 12, for three years. The NCAA upheld the self-imposed penalty of three fewer practices during preseason camp in 2012.
Whoops... I fail.
Note to self: Don't trust bullet points
well thats only 3 scholies lost by my math?
Three scholarships for three years, so nine total.
But it's as if they only lose 3 players right (since they keep 82 players each year)? I always thought when someone loses XX scholies per year that meant that they lost XX 4 year scholarships. That is, if someone losses 5 scholarships per year for 2 years, they would go from 85 scholarships to 80 scholarships to 75 scholarships.
I'm probably wrong though.
You are indeed wrong, because there's no such thing as a "4 year scholarship" - they are renewed on a yearly basis. Thus if you lose 5 a year for two years, it means you play the next to seasons with 80 players.
I was able to sneak into the NCAA offices and get a picture of one of their compliance officers.
Not only was he sleeping almost constantly, but it turns out he was made out of paper.
This invasion of cuteness into our community threatens our very way of life.
So says the person with the cat with winged helmet mask avatar...:)
There's a big difference between having 82 players for three years and losing 9 scholarships.
I was just about to make the exact same comment.
Heck, I bet there are quite a few schools that do not have sanctions and have less than the maximum number of scholarships (attrition, poor recruiting, etc). Whats our scholarships numbers over the past few years?
We and most everyone else recruit to a full 85 on signing day. The numbers may end up lower when the season starts due to attrition and non-qualifiers. Having to start with three less will usually hurt.
That's how the NCAA reports scholarship reductions though.
You'll also find examples of Michigan losing four scholarships if you Google the scandal.
That's just the way the numbers are reported.
The worst violations were committed by the tennis and track teams, and the concensus around here (in Boise) is that the football team got hit harder than they should have because of the shenanigans in the other programs. The football violations were basically that incoming freshmen wanted to join the voluntary workouts of the players already on scholarship. In doing so they would sometimes crash overnight on the couch or floor of an existing player, and get a ride to wherever the practice would be. The NCAA said that they should have paid for that space on the floor or couch (seriously). What is the market rate for a sleeping on a floor or couch anyway? Isn't it essentially zero, since nobody in the history of college has ever charged for letting someone crash on their couch?
All in all it is not really bad stuff but, in the context of BSU athletics as a whole, the NCAA hit them a little harder than they would have otherwise.
I think they should deploy the "Couchsurfer" Defense - this isn't anything exclusively beneficial to athletes, isn't that the major issue schools get dinged for (benefitting in a way a normal student doesn't have an equal opportunity to)?
...they ought to vote into the bylaws the ability to sieze funds. Cheating earns you a multi-million dollar bowl appearance? NCAA takes the money. Booster buys a guy a car? NCAA siezes it, sells it, keeps money. This way the NCAA can afford the investigatory and legal staff it needs to combat all the cheating.
The NCAA can afford to punish Boise harshly b/c it won't lose a large TV market, alumni base, and general fan base by doing so.
i dont think this hurts boise nealry as much as it would hurt an osu or alabama. boise has proven that they can evaluate talent better than any other coaching staff in clooege football, and as such losing 9 players over 3 years will still leave them with a very talented team, just less players overall. osu, alabama, they don't do a good job with evaluating talent, they just throw schollies out there to 4 and 5 stars and hope the ones they get turn out to be good, coachabe players, and with bama they just over sign on a yearly basis in case they didnt do a good job of evaluating talent the years before. boise will be fine
I'm sure Boise broke some rules, but if the NCAA is going to trot out the little ol' Broncos and say "see, we are cracking down on violations", then they need to reevaluate their system. From what I've read this is a school-wide "issue", but none of the violations sounded particularly egregious. It will be interesting if this level of oversight is applied to everyone going forward; if so, then I wouldn't want to be OSU or half the SEC (whenever they get around to investigating that conference).