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Boeheim: Notre Dame Sank the Big East
In the same interview, Boeheim notes that, as exciting as the move will be, it wouldn’t have been necessary if Big East schools had voted for a new television contract months earlier. He points specifically to Notre Dame’s recent vote against a large Big East football contract as having a hand in the possible demise of the league. Notre Dame is a member of the Big East on the basketball side, but plays as an independent in football. “Now they’re crying about us leaving,” Boeheim tells Waters. “They shouldn’t have even voted on the football contract because they’re not even in it.” His comments supplemented those he gave to Syracuse station 1260 The Score (WSKO) earlier in the day. “If Notre Dame wanted to save the Big East,” Boeheim said, “they could have joined in 2004 and we wouldn’t be having these discussions today.” http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2011/09/21/jim-boeheim-voice-of-reason/
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September 21st, 2011 at 6:19 PM | I say we blame ND for (Score:5 Normal)
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I say we blame ND for everything.

Greetings from Bolivia.

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September 21st, 2011 at 6:21 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:5 Normal)
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Add Matt Millen to the list.

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September 21st, 2011 at 10:40 PM | We're blaming ND for Matt (Score:5 Normal)
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We're blaming ND for Matt Millen?

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September 21st, 2011 at 11:50 PM | I think I got this (Score:5 Normal)
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Matt Millen went to Penn State when Penn State was an independent. Penn State went to the light side, but Notre Dame remains independent. Therefore, Notre Dame is to blame for Matt Millen.

LSA '11

App State to Miss State

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September 21st, 2011 at 6:35 PM | I Don't Know (Score:2)
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It doesn't really seem to work for ND fans.

"Blame no one. Expect nothing. Do something. That is attitude." -Bo

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:18 PM | Notre Dame gave me chlamydia  (Score:5 Normal)
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Notre Dame gave me chlamydia 

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:25 PM | So it was Notre Dame's fault (Score:5 Normal)
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So it was Notre Dame's fault that CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU?

Sounds good to me...

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:28 PM | More like... (Score:4 Normal)
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CRAIG JAMES ALSO KILLED FIVE MORE HOOKERS AT NOTRE DAME.

New meme?

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:33 PM | Alternatively... (Score:4 Normal)
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A picture of a kitten  with the caption:

"EACH TIME SOMEONE MENTIONS 'CRAIG JAMES', A HOOKER  DIES.  PLEASE, THINK OF THE HOOKERS."

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:44 PM | So instead of CRAIG JAMES (Score:3 Normal)
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So instead of CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU, it now becomes CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE MILLION HOOKERS AT SMU.

Five million and one.

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September 21st, 2011 at 8:50 PM | Look guys... (Score:3 Normal)
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I am really sick and tired of all this Craig James stuff.

Everyone knows it was James Craig who killed the hookers.  Maybe CRAIG JAMES was a lookout when he KILLED THOSE FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU.  And no, I can't possibly disprove the silly notion that CRAIG JAMES KILLED THOSE FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU and wouldn't even want to try at this point.

But at some point we have to ask ourselves, who hasn't killed a hooker before?  And so what if CRAIG JAMES KILLED THOSE FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU?

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September 21st, 2011 at 9:51 PM | True, as a wise man once (Score:3 Normal)
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True, as a wise man once said: "Not everybody's the perfect person in the world. I mean everyone kills people, murders people"

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September 21st, 2011 at 9:03 PM | Now five million and two, if (Score:1)
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Now five million and two, if implicit mentions count.

Make that five million and three.

Crap

Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug

67-22-3 all-time

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:43 PM | Canada (Score:5 Normal)
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Don't forget Canada

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September 21st, 2011 at 9:57 PM | Is that an STD too?   (Score:1)
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Is that an STD too?

 

University of Tom Brady, B.A. '10; University of Peyton Manning, J.D. '13.

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September 21st, 2011 at 10:48 PM | Have you been to the Upper Peninsula? (Score:2 Normal)
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Canada, Michigan's itch that won't go away.  Especially when you leave the Soo.

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September 21st, 2011 at 6:20 PM | Regarding the Biting Irish... (Score:2 Normal)
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Bo was right.

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September 21st, 2011 at 6:25 PM | ND it is (Score:1 Normal)
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No more "Blame Canada" on South Park, either.  Now, it's "Blame Notre Dame."

 

 

 

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September 21st, 2011 at 9:19 PM | Blame and Dame do rhyme. (Score:1)
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Blame and Dame do rhyme.

Semper Fidelis

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September 21st, 2011 at 6:34 PM | What I'd like to know (Score:1)
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if ND was allowed to vote on the football contract were the other Big East schools who are not a part of the Big East in football allowed to vote on the contract too?

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September 21st, 2011 at 6:38 PM | Blameheim (Score:2 Underrated)
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I love his honesty. 

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September 21st, 2011 at 6:38 PM | To hell with Notre Dame. (Score:5 Normal)
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To hell with Notre Dame.

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September 21st, 2011 at 6:38 PM | I blame myself. (Score:1 Normal)
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I blame myself.

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September 21st, 2011 at 6:49 PM | Try to get out more. (Score:3 Normal)
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Really.

Taking it one week at a time

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:02 PM | Sunspots (Score:4 Normal)
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I have been blaming Notre Dame for sunspots for years already. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:06 PM | Even the Pope (Score:1)
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Blames Notre Dame. Wakes up with a headache? To hell with Notre Dame.

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:06 PM | Maybe that will inhibit ND (Score:2 Normal)
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Maybe that will inhibit ND joining the ACC?  If Boeheim thinks ND is a bad conference member, maybe it will be enough to keep ND to the ACC from happening. 

I just really want them to join the Big Ten so they become an average Big Ten team instead of them thinking they'd win any conference they were in.

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:17 PM | Amen to the 2nd paragraph (Score:1)
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As much as part of me would love to see ND left on the outside looking at when all is said and done with the conference re-allignment, part of me too would love to see ND in the Big Ten.  It's been a while since they've gone 3-0 against UM, MSU and Purdue.  Add in games against other upper echelon big ten teams and they're looking at 3-5 losses a year probably.

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:30 PM | And most of those years MSU (Score:2)
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And most of those years MSU and Purdue were middle of the road teams.  Not to mention Michigan under RIchRod had a better record against Notre Dame than we did against any Big Ten team not named Indiana.

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:23 PM | ND would have been just one vote! (Score:-1 Normal)
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Seriously.....   Notre Dame was only 1 vote, period!  It took far more then one vote to not approve a new contract. 

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:35 PM | Big East needs to look in the mirror (Score:5 Normal)
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They are the ones who let Notre Dame use them to make all their other sports viable while maintaining independence in football.  They are the ones who let schools who don't play football vote on the football contract.  They are also the ones who were about to lose their BCS privileges anyway because of a failure to field a single top 25 team. 

 

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:39 PM | Yeah, I agree with that too.  (Score:5 Normal)
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Yeah, I agree with that too.  But the reality for Syracuse is that they'll be the same in the ACC as they were in the Big East - completely irrelevant in football and a perrenial contender in basketball.  It won't be any different, they'll just have to travel more, and there will be fewer away team fans at their games.

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September 21st, 2011 at 9:45 PM | I kind of disagree with this. (Score:1)
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This ND thing does expose something in the Big East.  They obviously had non-football schools determining issues directly relevant to the football schools, regardless to the disportionate impact these decisions had on said schools.  Schools not playing big east football like Notre Dame, St John's, Seton Hall etc. having a say in the football TV contract is patently absurd, but apparently it happened. 

At least in the ACC, all schools, even Duke and Wake Forest, like Syracuse, have skin in the game.  They really are equals and are all affected by football TV contract decisions made.  And yeah, that is apparently a big difference versus what is going on in the Big East.

The Big East was bound to fail due the the very divergent interests (not to mention cost structure of football versus basketball) of the all-sports schools versus those not in Big East football.  In all of these re-alignment discussions, I have yet to see St John's, Marquette, Seton Hall, etc. mentioned with baited breath in anticipation of their arrival to a new conference.

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September 21st, 2011 at 8:09 PM | Big East choice (Score:1)
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I completely agree that the Big East pointing fingers at ND is ridiculous. The Big East had a choice to make--do they want Notre Dame for everything but football or do they not.

I'm not trying to be a Big Ten homer here, but I think from the Big East's perspective there were three possibilities:

1) ND does not join a conference in any sports, or it joins another conference in everything but football.

2) ND joins the Big East in everything but football.

3) ND joins a conference in everything, including football, but that conference is the Big Ten

The Big East could either take ND without football, or not have ND at all, but to complain that you didn't get an unrealistic choice is obnoxious. The Big East was good in basketball and that's probably a big part of what made it an attractive possibility, but the thing that the Big East really brought to the table was the option to join in everything except football. If they don't bring that, they don't get ND.

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September 21st, 2011 at 10:02 PM | Why on Earth did the Big East (Score:3 Normal)
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Why on Earth did the Big East allow non-football schools to vote on football?  That makes absolutely no sense.

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:43 PM | These guys have it all wrong. (Score:-1 Normal)
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These guys have it all wrong. It's obviously RR's fault. 

/sarcasm

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Totally unrelated, but did anyone else hear the rumor that Glen Rice banged Sarah Palin back in the day.  Apparently there is a tell all coming out about her and in it it says that back when she was a sports reporter she got down with Glen Rice. 

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:51 PM | Check out Mike Tyson's (Score:-1 Trolling)
ryanoe0610
Joined: 08/08/2008
MGoPoints: -17

Check out Mike Tyson's insightful commentary on this matter:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/16/mike-tyson-sarah-palin-met-the-wombshi...

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September 21st, 2011 at 9:13 PM | It's been on the board... (Score:1 Normal)
ppToilet
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http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/please-note-most-sober-possible-way-sarah-palin-and-glen-rice-done-got-it

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September 21st, 2011 at 7:57 PM | AND ANOTHER THING (Score:5 Normal)
MichFan1997
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Joined: 08/04/2008
MGoPoints: 6238

If it wasn't for freaking Notre Dame, I wouldn't have been forced to have so much fun and yell and lose my voice on Sept. 10. Freaking jerks!!

Follow me on Twitter @gfraley05

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September 21st, 2011 at 8:39 PM | Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha (Score:-1 Normal)
Irish
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Joined: 06/05/2009
MGoPoints: 3693

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Current Smug rating: "lethal"

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September 21st, 2011 at 8:47 PM | Irish, (Score:1)
BLUE HIKER
Joined: 08/09/2011
MGoPoints: 70

Where do you see ND going, if anywhere?

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September 21st, 2011 at 9:06 PM | Back to glory! ZING! (Score:4 Normal)
Anonymosity
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Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 2057

Back to glory!

ZING!

Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug

67-22-3 all-time

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September 21st, 2011 at 10:35 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2 Normal)
Dreisbach Turne...
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Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 6788

eh, it's not like you can beat SU... or even SU with Greg Robinson.



ouch.



To hell with Notre Dame.

Syracuse '03, Michigan G'05

Space bitches, space.

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September 21st, 2011 at 9:32 PM | Well, the Big East should (Score:-1 Trolling)
althegreat23
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Joined: 05/30/2011
MGoPoints: 1235

Well, the Big East should have treated Notre Dame like the slaves and counted them as 3/5 of a member.

"A Michigan Man will coach a Michigan Team"

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September 21st, 2011 at 10:46 PM | Big East... (Score:1)
tn wolverine
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Joined: 09/07/2009
MGoPoints: 502

Big East when you deal with the Devil you've gotta watch out for the Horns.

 I've never watched "Rudy" because I can't stand notre dame.

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September 21st, 2011 at 11:58 PM | Nd and Texas should (Score:3 Normal)
BlueinLansing
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Joined: 09/01/2009
MGoPoints: 4201

just get together and form their own conference.  Call it the Ego Conference and they can  play each other 12 times while the rest of the country doesn't give a crap about them.

 

These two have either destroyed or prevented college football from being even better with their greedy ways.

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September 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 AM | I really don't (Score:0)
Top dog 4578
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Joined: 04/23/2011
MGoPoints: 650

I really don't give s shit about the big east...However,I really hope we still play ND every year..I don't know if you could have a game between two schools with more tradition ..For me anyway ....

Go Blue !!

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